“28 JAN : SESSION 1 : Who centers the Universal Wheel?”

28 JAN : SESSION 1 : Who centers the Universal Wheel?

Now we enter into the next question of Devi, the next doubt of Devi: Who centers the Universal wheel? The first and foremost understanding that you need to have about the Universal Wheel is that it is not a wheel, as you visualize..! You visualize a wheel and you put a wheel there (pointing to the picture drawn by one of the disciples on the blackboard) – but it is not a wheel. It is a chaos! You have no other form to represent chaos. The wheel or the circle is the closest you can come to represent chaos. The square, the rectangle, the triangle - too rigid. Of course, chaos cannot be a circle. So when Devi asks about the Universal Wheel, don’t imagine that there is a big wheel with a definite radius. Even if there is such a wheel, where can it roll? If it is Universal Wheel, if it occupies the space of the entire universe, where is the space for it to move? Now Devi is asking, Who centers the Universal Wheel? Who centers the Universe?

I think, with this question, Devi looks a little foolish! She could have asked, What centers the Universal Wheel? I think she is too much in love with Shiva! She is deeply in love with Shiva – that is why she asks, ‘Who…?’

First of all you should understand, What is the Universe? Only three things are usually experienced by people: One is Jeeva, the individual being, the individual consciouness; Eeshwara, the ultimate being, the superconsciousness, God, who is the creator, sustainer and controller. The third is Jagat, which is whatever you are seeing. Be very clear, Jagat is not the universe. Jagat is only that dimension of the universe that you can comprehend. Your Jagat can expand, but the universe cannot. Whenever you discover something, whenever you comprehend something, whenever you experience something new, your Jagat expands. In the universe, you know only these three things: Jeeva, Eeshwara, Jagat. Is there anything more that you know? Devi asks: Who centers the Universal Wheel? A few people have tried to answer: it is Jeeva who centers the Universal Wheel. The Zen Buddhists, J Krishnamurthy, Ramana Maharishi - the people who work through awareness – all of them started from Jeeva to reach the Universal Energy. Another group believes: it is Eeshwara who centers the Universal Wheel. All the saints of the Bhakti tradition, Chaitanya, Madhwa, the Dasa Parampara – all started working towards Eeshwara. The third is the group which started working through Jagat. This group is totally service-oriented. The Christian missionaries, Viekananda – they all believed that by serving the Jagat (world), they could attain the Universal Energy. All three groups missed their goal, they missed the point. Whether you work through Jeeva, Eeshwara, or Jagat, you are bound to miss – because the three of them are not separate. Whenever you work towards only one of these three, you are carrying the idea that it is superior to the other two, or at least different from them. That is why Shiva never addresses this doubt again. None of Devi’s doubts is ever addressed by Shiva! She asks, O Shiva, what is your reality? He never speaks a word about it, he never answers, This is my reality. Again she asks, What constitutes seed? He doesn’t say a word about it! Then she asks, Who centers the Universal Wheel? Again, Shiva does not address her doubt directly. All he gives her is a meditation technique. There is no relationship between the question and the answer. Shiva is again and again trying to throw her into experience instead. He is not ready to address any of these doubts verbally, intellectually. He continues to give her the techniques that can help her experience.

This is the way it is with the people who come to me for healing. They ask me, Swamiji, can you cure my backache? I tell them, Attend the ASP (meditation camp). My answer is in no way connected to their question! But unless they do the ASP, they will never understand that their backache will actually disappear If you start intellectually analyzing my situation, you will start worrying, How can I sit in meditation for two full days? My backache only going to get worse! You are never going to enter into a solution. Shiva never gives an intellectual answer. Actually, giving an intellectual solution for a problem is simply disrespecting the other person. Imagine that someone comes to you and says, I have a severe headache, it is a big problem. Suppose you reply, All your headaches are your own creation! Actually there is no such thing as pain… you are simply imagining things.. it you who is responsible for all your problems! He will end up wishing that he had simply stayed home and suffered only the headache, instead of suffering your lectures also! (prolonged laughter from group) To propose a theory to solve someone’s problem is simple disrespect of the other person. When you give an intellectual answer, it is simply abusing them. Actually, when we give an intellectual answer, this is exactly what we do. Watch yourself. When you answer a doubt, you will find a tremendous violence inside you. You will be telling them, Oh! You dare question me? Let me show you what I can do! I’ll show you my intellectual ability! You don’t know me! Especially if someone asks a complicated question – and you manage to find an answer, how is your body language? See how much arrogance s reflected in it! You feel that you have won the game. All your intellectual answers are pure violence. They are nothing but the capacity to twist a question. Someone once asked me, Swamiji, when Sankara (a Hindu intellectual giant) came, the whole of Buddhism was wiped out in Bharat. When Nagarjuna came, Hinduism got wiped out. Again, when Ramanuja came, Advaita was wiped out. When Madhva came, all of Vishishtadvaita was wiped out. When Atmananda Saraswati came, everything else was wiped out & Advaita was established. How can this happen? If Advaita is the ultimate truth, it should have always won! And if Dvaita is the ultimate truth, Dvaita should have always been on top! If Buddhism is the ultimate, it should have won throughout. Why is it that different philosophies become established at different times? I told him, There is no difference of opinion between Hinduism and Budddhism. The battle is always between the followers, not between the philosophies. It is a question of who is a better orator, who can manipulate words better, who has a greater capacity to make the other person tired! Actually, if you enter into a logical debate, you will end up feeling drained. If your doubts are truly cleared, you will feel energetic. Did you notice yesterday..? How you all refused to leave the class, even after the class was over? It was past 1 a.m., but after class, everyone wanted to dance! How is it possible? When your doubts are getting cleared, you will feel a new energy flowing through you. When you are involved in a logical debate, what do you experience? As soon as the debate is over, you fall back on the couch & beg for coffee! (laughter) I think that is why, at these corporate meetings, they continuously supply food and coffee! Because all the members are busy asking and answering questions! They are constantly attacking each other, draining each other’s energy. It is pure violence, inflicted while sitting at the conference table. Nobody is speaking in the general interest; each one is concerned only with promoting himself. As I told you yesterday, if you have a proper understanding of these charkas, you can play these corporate games far more intelligently. When your boss raises an issue, be aware of whether he is actually interested in the solution. If he is only doing it to prove his superiority, don’t try to solve the issue. Simply agree with him, give him a crown – and the issue will be solved on its own. Even if you feeling like throwing your shoe at him, make sure it is covered with a silk shawl! Simply give him credit, massage his ego, tell him that no one has done such an excellent analysis of the problem – and he will not even raise the question again! Because you have already given him what he wants. This is the truth. This is the way the human mind works. Just watch, and see from which chakra his thoughts are rising. If he is trying to prove his worth, allow him to express himself. Let him feel that he is unique. When you try to solve an issue without having a clear idea of which emotion has caused it, you will only make matters worse. When your husband or wife raises a subject – your wife especially – when she cries and ells you about some problem, never try to give a solution. Because all she wants is your attention. Her question has risen from the Anahata chakra. If you try to give an intellectual solution to an emotional problem, will you succeed? Just listen and console her, comfort her, that is all. She will forget the whole problem. And later on she herself will give you the solution! (laughter). It is not as if she doesn’t know the solution. She knows it! All she wants is for you to know that she is suffering because of you. If you acknowledge that, it is enough. But foolish guys, you try to give a solution! If you think that she doesn’t know, be very clear: you don’t know! (much laughter from group) I tell you, having women disciple is worse than marriage! At least with marriage, you enjoy once in a while and suffer at other times. With disciples, I suffer and I only suffer! At least you have 90% suffering and 10% enjoyment. All I have is100% suffering! I have to put up with all the negative points of marriage – bringing them out of depression, taking care of them, consoling them, healing them – and after all this, giving them enlightenment! (prolonged laughter) In each chakra, they will have some problem. In the Mooladhara chakra – they will have all kinds of expectations and fantasies about how I should behave. Next is Swadishthana – always carrying a pseudo fear; acting as if they are in fear of me. The truth is, they want me to be in fear of them – but when that doesn’t happen, they pretend that I am keeping them in fear! And then comes Manipuraka – worry. They will be continuously trying to create some worry. They can’t directly worry about themselves – they feel it is too egoistic. So they start worrying about how to take care of me. They feel that all the other people taking care of me are not doing their job properly! As if they are more concerned about me than I am!

Actually I have seen these so-called compassionate people, when it comes to themselves, they are ready to torture me to any extent. If I am spending time with other people, they will be thinking, Oh, they are always sitting around Swami, they don’t allow him to eat or rest! But when they themselves are spending time with me – they say, No no, Swami is always energetic, Swami never feels tired!

And the Anahata chakra – attention. They are continuously demanding my attention. In those days, I could spend so much of time around him – now I never get any time with him. He never gives me any time or attention…

And the Vishuddhi chakra – tightly locked due to jealousy! Continuously comparing, continuously comparing! See, he smiles at others two inches wider than he smiles at me! (uproarious laughter) And when we were sitting with him, he nodded at me only twice or thrice – but now, he is nodding continuously at them! He spoke to me only for 33 seconds – and with them, it is 35 seconds already! I don’t know how long he is going to speak to them! The Vishuddhi has become totally Ashuddi (impure). I think I have to do some special tapasya just to unlock their Vishuddi chakras. I don’t know whether they plan to do any tapasya, but I definitely have to. I think, if I make them do the Vishuddi meditation (jogging) from morning to night, the Vishuddhi chakra may relax a bit! But what happens is, they are making me run! Just because their Vishuddhi is locked, I have to do the meditation! And the next is Ajna chakra - ego. Each of them wants to prove that they are the closest to me. Telling the others, you can’t go near Swami unless I give you permission. It is only through me that you can approach Swami. I am great because I am close to Swami… (from audience) They think of themselves as your guardian angels, Swami… Guardian Angels?! These guys, the ones who think they are close to me – they are the worst troublemakers. They are just using me as a shield to protect their ego. I am their guardian angel. And finally the Sahasrara chakra – deep discontent. Whatever I do, Swami is never happy, he always keeps blaming me. He tortures only me; with everybody else he is fine. And the worst part is, each and every one feels the same way. So this is the way we relate to others. We always relate from the chakra in which we are based. That is why, whenever you try to give an intellectual solution to another person’s problem, you will only get into greater difficulty. This is the way to handle the situation with your wife. You were asking me, How do you know all this, Swamiji? This is how I know! At least, married man are tortured only by one woman...! (laughter) And do you know, after coming to me, they have stopped torturing their husbands! Their husbands have been liberated! (much laughter) Their husbands are so happy, they keep telling me, Swamiji, why don’t you hold some more programs, some more meditation camps at the ashram? We’ll sponsor the programs! Why don’t you build some more cottages on your campus? And whenever you go to the Himalayas or on any other tour, please take her along! Actually, these husbands are the people who are really blessed. Even when I heal cancer, and say Don’t worry, I will take care, the karmas don’t come to me. But when I tell these husbands that I will take care of all their problems, their wives always come straight to me!! (from audience) As if men don’t torture you… You see, the greatest difference between men and women is that men never cry & try to exploit me. For women, crying is their biggest weapon. You see, if they get angry, I can always ask them to get out. But if they cry, what to do? And you guys, you don’t even now what is compassion. I am the embodiment of compassion. What can I do? I can’t stand somebody crying. And you women, you know the technique. Whatever you want, you know how to get it. And once you have mastered the knack, you can cry even just thinking about it!

Then there is a small technique which women have mastered. The moment I start firing them, they just put down their head and start gazing at one place. You just have to look down and stare at your ring or whatever. If you keep staring at one fixed point, naturally the tears will come! And they don’t need to do anything else.

So whenever the problem comes from one chakra, handle only through that particular chakra – otherwise you are going to make a mess of it.

(from audience) Does that mean we have to also start crying?

No, no! You are on supposed to cry. You are supposed to give comfort and consolation. Whatever you would like to say to her, say it – but simply edit a few words to make it the way she would like to hear. You have to say, I have never seen any woman like you! (as bad as you!), you are really the greatest (torture!), and so on. So give them consolation. Never try to give them a solution – or you will be in great danger. Because at such times, their logic works ten times better than yours. And when you are with them when they are in depression, your logic works only 1% of the usual! Your logic is out! It hardly works 1% - just for survival! So never try to solve a woman’s problem when she is in a low mood. Believe me, you are just fighting a losing battle. This is the ultimate truth. For men, when they are in ecstasy or bliss, their logic works better. When you are blissful, you make big decisions. You have the courage, the energy, the power. For women, when they are depressed, their logic works far better. They get the courage, energy, power to take big decisions. So all you have to do is give her attention. Do anything – just bring her out of that mood. After that, nothing will matter. After that, she herself will understand how foolish she is, she was and she will be. Once her intelligence starts working, she herself will come and tell you, I’m sorry I disturbed you, please forgive me, now I understand everything. But after 48 hours? You have to be ready to solve some new problem! That is why I have decided, only married couples in my ashram. Let them torture each other! And moreover, till they become mature, they need somebody just to say consoling words. They also know that! In fact, I was thinking of producing a DVD with consoling words – whenever you are in a low mood, you can come and watch. All the DVD will say is, Don’t worry, you are right, you are right, you are the greatest… Then there will be a two-minute gap – for them to cry. (laughter) Then again it will start, No no, relax, don’t cry – oh, but you can’t tell them, don’t cry! Just for half an hour – no, 21 minutes, actually. In 21 minutes they will be out of it. Then they will give you the solution! So answer the question from whichever chakra it is asked. In fact, never answer the question – answer the questioner. If you try to answer the question, you will answer from the chakra where you are. You must answer from the chakra where the questioner stands! Don’t solve the question, solve the questioner. (applause) When she falls into a low mood, and she feels she wants your attention, she will come up with such a silly issue – it won’t be an issue at all: When I gave you water, you did not drink. After ten minutes, when she gave you water, you drank! Oh God, that is the time I felt thirsty, ma! But you can’t say this. If you try to answer the question, this is what will be your answer. But what will be the response? Oh, so only when she gives you, you feel like drinking water? When I give, you don’t feel like drinking water. All right..! (Swami mimics a woman sobbing) In those times, when I used to give you water, you used to drink it… and nowadays!! (sobs) Just analyze the problem – Anahata. What she needs is attention. So just ignore the water issue and start talking about something else. That day, the way you ironed my clothes was just beautiful! And the garden in front of my room – how neat and clean you have kept it! And what happened to that work you were doing in the office? I have seen nobody, nobody who can work like that! Just spend some time like this, and the whole problem is solved. If you are centered strongly in your ego, you will answer from your chakra. If you are a little aware, you will answer to their chakra. This is the intelligent way to handle them. I am giving you the technique – because now I have mastered the art! You may be a great philosopher, logician, orator, convincing thousands of people on stage, a great teacher, guiding thousands to the truth…. but in the house, you are nothing more than a mouse! After all your efforts, all your arguments, she will say, All that is okay, now listen… The same issue which you have explained for the last three years, she will start again from the first sentence. And if you say, I have already analyzed this issue so many times, ma..! Never! This is the first time I am bringing up this subject! This is the first time you are analyzing it! Oh, God! If I had noted down how many times I have analyzed it, I could have completed a sahasranama (1000 repetitions)! But none of your logic will work, because she relates from a different plane, and you relate from a different plane. She is speaking to you in Portuguese, and you are trying to reply in Hindi! I actually met a couple – the lady is from Brazil and knows only Portuguese, and the man is from Bharat, he knows only Hindi. Never have I seen such a happy couple! When I asked them, the man replied, We know very clearly that we can’t understand each other! Whenever she has a problem, I answer the body language! The body language will tell you exactly where the problem is. Whenever she is in trouble, never listen to her words. Watch her body language and react. The problem will be totally solved. And the same for men also. Because I am male, I suffered all these aspects of women. Now I think I have to live for a while as a female, and give you the solutions for the problems that men create. This is what is actually Life Solutions. Whenever questions are answered, it is just arrogance, a subtle violence, abuse of the other person. Only when doubts are cleared, can the other person be helped. Doubts are energy clots. What is an energy clot? As I was telling you yesterday, your thought waves jump form chakra to chakra. From Mooladhara to Swadishthana to Visdhuddi. But there are some thoughts which will not move freely, which will put you in a dilemma – is he shouting at me out of fear, out of insecurity, or out of desire? When you are unable to decide, you will not be able to move from chakra to chakra freely; you will have a misunderstanding. When an energy clot is present, you will take another person;s words in exactly the wrong way. For example, if I tell someone, You disrespected me, you abused me. Why do I say it? So that they understand, and don’t repeat their behaviour. But instead, they think that I am being violent with them, and they just get angry. And when they are angry, they end up abusing me even more. This is what I mean by rightly wrongly understood! Whatever effect I had intended, exactly the opposite happens. When I throw a word at you, if you are caught in doubt, you create exactly the wrong understanding inside yourself. If you have a little awareness, and see from which chakra I am throwing the word, you will never misunderstand. When you receive the word from your own chakra, you will think, Oh, you are continuously criticizing me! when have I ever disturbed you? Alright, I know what to do! You start building up violence and vengeance against me. You start falling into more trouble and depression. Doubt is nothing but an energy clot. And just like any mass that cannot become part of your physical system turns into cancer, any thought that cannot become part of your energy flow, which cannot be digested by your being, becomes depression. Depression is nothing but cancer. When a mass is stuck somewhere in your body, but cannot become part of it, a tumour slowly starts building up around it that finally becomes cancer. When I throw a word at you – You tortured me - I want you to digest tat word, I expect you to imbibe the energy from that word. I want your response to be: I will not do it again. Let me not analyze in what way I tortured him. Even whatever I am doing now, I will tone it down. If you accept it without analyzing, the word becomes food for you. It becomes part of your system. There is nothing to worry. But if you just hold it, if it has not become part of your energy, a tumour slowly starts building up around that word. And once there is some mass, alive and active, it simply attracts more mass towards it. It’s a physical law, no? So once there is that one thought – Oh, he told me that I abused him – you start collecting more and more words, you start choosing more and more situations. It simply becomes a cancerous depression in your system. This is the way you create energy clots. The moment you understand that you have created energy clots like this, you have already done chemotherapy! The moment you throw light on your tumour, it will simply dissolve. Sometimes, when the tumour has become too big, you need an operation. That is what is sitting with me. I just throw the tumour out, and then you can always have chemotherapy. Throwing light on a tumour to cure it is chemotherapy, isn’t t? Throw the light of intelligence on your tumour. Energy clots are very very dangerous. At least, cancer will destroy only your body. You will lose only one life. But with energy clots, you will lose janmas after janmas (lives after lives). If you see the master in the next janma, again you will relate from the same energy clot. When someone comes to me leaving another master – you see, if they come without hatred, feeling overfull, I let them be with me. If they come to me because they have had a fight with their earlier master, I tell them, Get out! You will do the same thing with me also. You will project the same thing on me also. Whenever I see that somebody has past karmas, I tell them, Don’t project them on me. I am not here to be your father. These guys (pointing to ashramites), they behave with me just as they would behave with their father. How they cheat the father, how they do things behind the father’s back! If the father tells them, Don’t eat in the kitchen – exactly when the father goes to bed, tey go to the kitchen and eat. If you take me to be our father, you will never be able to be around me. Never project your past relationships on me. If you feel that something was lacking in your past relationships, when you relate with me you will project the same trouble on me. You will look at me in the same way, because that energy clot is there. What will happen to that energy clot? It will gather more and more mass! You are supposed to work on your energy clot, not on the situation. Unless you work on it, you will never be able to make the energy flow beautifully. If you don’t have any energy clots, you will be so happy to live inside your body! If you are finding it difficult to live inside your body, be very clear that you have solid energy clots.

…… dissolving.

Don’t give energy to that particular problem. Never even think about it. Don’t start worrying about it. Simply know that there was an energy clot, and tell yourself, I will not give any more energy to that energy clot. Don’t justify that energy clot. The moment you justify it, you add more energy to it. Just understand and surrender. Relax. When you sit here, I am continuously doing operations and removing cancers and tumours of doubts. That is why you feel so much energy when you leave this hall. When an energy clot is dissolved, it becomes energy! When I throw a word at you – the same words – You disturbed me – I intend it to have a particular effect. I want you to decide, I will not disturb him anymore. Whatever I have been doing, I will tone down that also. I will surrender that also. I will become a nobody! – the energy clot becomes energy. When you start thinking, I ever did anything! There are so many people who do much worse things than me, but he accuses only me! As if others have not disturbed him!, you start creating violence, resistance, anger. Resistance creates the first seed for the clot. Then you add more and more stuff to it. Slowly – not even slowly, immediately, you take out the file of all past incidents that support it – and in ten minutes you are already into depression. This is the art and science of creating depression. You create depression for yourself. Nobody creates depression for you. The moment you understand this, you will never create depression for yourself. The moment you feel resistance, drop it. Tell yourself, No. No. Relax. Wait. The tumour simply won’t form. The thought will simply become part of your energy. The moment you understand the energy clot, it dissolves and gives solid energy to you. When your questions are answered, you will feel drained. When your doubts are cleared, you will feel energetic. Here I am clearing your doubts with all compassion and love. I am operating your tumour with all my compassion and love. My words are the gnana katka – the sword of knowledge –with which I am slowly performing the operation. My love and compassion are the anaesthesia. If you don’t resist, I will go deep and remove the whole tumour. The moment, I will be able to go only that deep, I will e able to remove only that much of the tumour. But I will wait, with all my love and compassion – because I know the art of waiting. I will wait for when you will open the other part of the tumour also. I will wait till you open the whole tumour. Let me wait till you open completely. Enough for now. Thank you.

# SESSION 2 : Healing Meditation

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Swami chants:

# Om, shanti shanti, shantih

Relax. Let this energy of Shiva heal everything. Trust and relax into this energy. When this energy can bring these great words to your ears, when this energy can bring this great wisdom to your knowledge, can it not heal you? When these words can reach your ears, they can reach your heart also. Just keep that space open. Simply, these words will fall into your heart. When He can bring this wisdom to your ears, by my being here, by your being here… …..