“Devi asks, "Oh Shiva, what is your reality?”

26 Jan 05

Devi asks, "Oh Shiva, what is your reality? What is this wonderful Universe. What constitues Seed? Who Who centres this universal wheel. what is thif life beyond form perrvading forsms. How may we enter it fully beyond space adn time, names and desctiptions. Let my doubts be cleared.

- When you say let my doubts be cleared, it becomes clear that you don't want answers or support, you want solutions! - words or energy or techniques - it doesn't matter- you should be free from doubts. - When questions become a quest and when urge becomes urgent, you start speaking in this language. - Many types of seekers - window shoppers. They go from Master to Master. Going from M to M is not wrong. But not learning from any M is what is wrong. - I always tell people - go to as many gardens, but pluck flowers and make a beautiful garland. Many people go to mny gardens, but dont pluck any flowers from any garden. - They act as if they are seekers. They just want to satisfy themselves that they are seekers. Hypocrisy. I tell them, it is better to leave this whole seeking. Either put whole effort and do it or just leave it and pull your life. - These superficial seekers are the most dangerous people. They have everything from car to bungalow bank balance. All ivory items - showcase things. They feel they are missing spirituality in their show case. They want to have me in their showcase not in their hearts. They say tehy have done ASP and show their healers badge. As long as the urge has not become urgent and Q has not bcome q, u cannot call urself a seeker. - Enlightenment shud become a basic necessity, only then the real alchemy starts happening. RK says, "If somebody hair is burning, will they keep quiet? Oh lter on we can put it off? No, they will immediately try to quench it. They run towards the water. Only if u have such a deep feeling, these sutras are for u. Unless u reach the same consciousness of Devi, u cant imbibe these sutras. anyone who enters into this state - the no-mind of Devi, they will be able to understand these sutras - The calf goes near the cow only 1/2 hr per day but in that 1./2 hr, it will drink milk and come back. But the bee, the fly will sit 24hrs on the cow, but it will drink only blood, not the milk. - All answers will create more questions. If it has not creqtd more Q's, be very clear, u have not understood the answers! - Two types of mentality with people who have probs. First category - they have a prob. they think they know the solution, but they want your support and help to get the solution for it. The second category of people is - they have a problem, they dont know the solution, they request your help to get the solution. The fiorst people think they have buddhi but not shakthi. The second type understand that they neither have buddhi nor shakthi. The moment u think that GOd has shakthi but no buddhi, u start guiding him. When you guide, your ego is not mature enough to fully surrender. If u know the solutions fro your problems, why are u still suffering? - People come to me and tell me to put their hand on their head. I ask them what their problem is, they tell me they have a stomach problem! They tell a problem and the solution alongwith it. If they tell me they have prob.and ask for a solution, I can suggest something. But they dont want to know anything else. They give me the solution also! Just do as i say! I ask them why they came to me! - Either u have a prob., or u dont have a prob. The moment u think u have a prob, be very clear, u r totally ignorant. The prob,. is, the moment u accept that u r totally ignorant, u immediatelty become enlightened. - But u never accept that u r totally ignorant. People think I am lesser than Swamiji but definitely more than the other people here. I am not so ignorant. - there are so many people who know that they have a prob., but when i give a soln., they are not ready to take it. They come up with so many other nonsensical arguments. They want me to act according to their solutions. Then who is the Master? They are the Master. - The man who thinks that even though he is not enlightened he is something is totally ignorant. - When u dont know u dont know, u dont even know that u dont know. But when u know that u dotn know, atleast u know that u dont know. - Thinking that u know without knowing is what i call intellect. - Either u r buddha or buddhu, shiva or shava, muruga or murga, shathi or sagathi. There is no via media. Either fall here or fall there. Either place u fall, u will become enlightened. Only when u play the middle game, u r in problems. - People want customized solutions -as they want it. -they give me suggestions, preferences for the solutions. They give me the question with a small bracket - if the answer is in this way, i will be very happy. It is like an examination - they give u a question and an instruction also. The answer shud be in 25 lines, one page. If u give your questions with brackets. be very clear, u r examinign me, not asking for a solution. Be very clear - if u want the answers as u want, you will simply miss the whole thing. - Staying here is not being here. - There are only two types of seekers - Arjuna type and Devi type. Questions and doubts. - People come and tell me a problem and they dont want my intelligence to work on them, they only want support. They tell me give me your shakthi not a solution. They tell me, I am having prob with my husband, pl. make him come and staty with me!" I would have given a total solution or dissolved the problem. But they dont want to dissolve the prob. They want me to give the Energy for what they want. - They want readymade replies. They are afraid they i might directly tell them that they r the prob. - Putting the question alongwith a small bracket - This is what i want, pl. dont give anything else. This is what i call intellect. - U dont understand that your problems are much more than a question and answer session. U think that the asnwers will solve your problem. It can only be solved by experience. U think ur problems are intellectual probs. - DEvi trusts that Shiv has got shakthi and buddhi. But we think God has got shakthi but not buddhi also. When u want God to do as u want, u actually mean this. I am verbalising it for you. U continuously ask becasue u believe that he has got Shakthi, but not buddhi. U clearly show ur arrogance or ignorance by asking questions. - Ignorance can never be healed. Innocence can never be healed. Ignorance is a cunning game. U think u know the soln. u only want the person to act like u want. - as long as u think that God has only Shakthi, u can never win Life. The moment u understand that he has got buddhi also, u surrender. - When u start believing that he has got Shakthi, religion starts. When u start believing that he has got buddhi, spirituality starts. With the former, u do all the rituals and sankalpas. All your sankalpas are nothing but bribery to get his shakthi from him. All your poojas again and again shows your arrogance that God has got shakthi but no buddhi. - Tantra is not for the people who are religious, it for people who are spiritual. It is not for religious nuts, it is for spiritual fruits! - A deep surrenderfulness of Devi. Deep passive waiting w/o knowing what is going to happen is what is passive surrender - total surrender. Teh moment u decide i will wait for ever, simply things start happening. As long as u r in a hurry, u r agitated, u stop things from happening. When u are in a hurry for the lotus to blossom, u open its petals. Can it be called lotus flowering? No! Only when it blossoms on its own it can be called so. Give it some space. It will happen.The moment u decide to wait forever, things will start happening. U don't have to wait anymore. U have to wait till u decide to wait. The moment u decide to wait, u dont have to wait anymore. - Narada was going to Vaikunda. On the way he found a rishi meditating. he asked him, 'Oh Narada, pl. ask Vishnu how long i have to wait for enligntenment.' Narada said surely he will ask. A little further, he saw a man jumping and dancing under a tree. He shouted out , 'Oh Narada, pl. ask Vishnu when i will have his darshan.' Narada said alright. Rishi has to wait 4 janmas to get enlightenment. The other guy - He told him that how many leaves there are in this tree, that many janmas he has to wait. The guy said ok, but how told me that he will grace, that is enough! The moment he uttered this word, lightning happened and Divine descended and he became enlightened. The deep patience, the decision to wait is what i call surrender. Total patience and relaxed mood. - People ask me, Swamiji i decided to wait but it is not happening! How can u say that u have decided to wait when you are asking the second statement?! U r playing a hide and seek game! U want me to know that u have started waiting but u have not really started waiting. You can cheat me but not urself. Enlightenment has to happen from u, not fm me! If it cud happen fm me, long before i wud given u enlightenment. It is not that i have to give, You have to receive! so, this is not a hide and seek game. An utter, clear and total decision to wait is what is the basic necessity to become enlightened. All the MAsters have used teh technique of waiting. When they say they will come back, they mean - learn the technique of waiting. The moment you learn the technique of waiting, they will be back in you. Waiting is the ultimate technique. You will become Krishna and Christ! - Either have the urgency or forget the urge itself. Dont play the inbetween game. the guys who play the inbetween game end in the worst depression. They think they are seeking but they never seek. As long as the blood is hot, they pull along, the moment the blood becomes cool, they fall into depression, because all along they were playing the game of seeking. They get into a mud horse and enter into the river. You can sit on a mud H and have aphotograph. U can keep it in ur showcase, but not for travelling, not for entering into the river. DOnt play the mud horse after coming here. U r entering into a new life. Bend and see if u r sitting on a mud horse or real horse! - Be very clear if u really seeking or doing the game of hide and seeking! - When the deep quest happens, it becomes a tremendous waiting. Until the quest is fulfilled, u think by doing this and that, u will get enlightenment. Only when u r filled with quest and cannot be fulfilled, u will get e.