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7 January 2005

Breaking Effect of Time

VerifiedAtma Spurana·AdiKailash,Bidadi, Bangalore·18 min
The Satsang

As long as this 100 thoughts per second, you are too much away from the tanger or Nithya or eternity, Atman. When is 80 thoughts per second, the difference is little less, now less... Then it’s a 60, then little, less. You can say just like a kilometer speed only. 100 kilometers this Ragini drives and 80 kilometer Chitrama drives and 60 Shiva is driving, no… ah when Shiva is driving….. And, when you come to 60, the moment is there. When you come to 40, still low. When come to 20, you almost manage, you almost manage. The thoughts per second, if it can be brought down; that is what is meditation. Meditation is nothing but; techniques to bring down the TPS. Bring down the TPS. Whatever helps you to bring down the TPS is Meditation.

When you carry your child, if you are just totally relaxed and TPS come down, that is meditation... When you are playing, you are totally relaxed, TPS comes down, that is meditation. Whatever makes your TPS to come down is meditation. Please be very clear; whatever makes your TPS to come down, anything, if it makes your TPS to come down is meditation. It is path to eternity, Nithya. Whatever makes the TPS up, it is Nithya. Sometimes even one meditation makes TPS up. So whatever makes your TPS up; is Nithya. Whatever makes your TPS down is Nithya. See, I’m giving you the Sutras to create meditation techniques. I now, I thought enough of meditation. Now I’m giving you Sutras, that you start creating techniques. Whatever brings your TPS down is Nithya. Whatever takes your TPS up is Nithya.

Participant:: “Easiest version Swamiji”. “Easiest version”.

Swamiji: “Straight that’s all, straight”! The more TPS, more suffering, the less TPS, less... suffering. The less TPS, more excess, more joy, more bliss. Because you are near Nithya. You are coming near, nearer, near to Nitya. Don’t think because you are sitting here you are near to Nithya. No! That is what we think, that’s what we tend to think. We think if you are sitting in the front row, we are near Nithya. No. If you are sitting, don’t think if you are sitting there you are near, again one more complex; I’m near it. Where you are sitting is not in the Nitya. If you are sitting, then you are near Nithya. If you are doing, then you are Nithya. If you are sitting, you are near Nithya. Just sit, you will be with Nithya. Just sitting with me, you will be Nithya, nothing else.

Understand, the number of thoughts, the TPS, if it comes down; naturally you are near Bliss. If it is high, you are away from the Bliss. Now, let me give you a theory, that is Upanishad concept. Your Atman, your being is covered with five sheet. Anamaya, Anamaya means: 100 TPS. Pranamaya means: 80, means: coming down, coming down, and down. That don’t as between the 81 and the nine... 90... Which goes a Swamiji? This area, so Pranamaya, then comes Mano, then comes Minya, then comes Anandamaya. Even this Anandamaya is not enlightenment. Please be very clear; even this Anandamaya is not enlightenment. When you cross the Anandamaya happs, what happens is Atman.

If your thoughts are continuously moving this side of that side, this side of that side; you are in Anamaya, high speed. If your in a high speed, you are, your going to…

Participant: “Kailasa”]

Not, Not Kailasa, somewhere else. You are in Anamaya. You are in Anamaya. If the frequency is too much, you are in grass level. Only the grass level things can give you the joy. Only the grass level things can give you ecstasy. You are too grass, Anamaya. If the frequency comes down, it becomes; Pranamaya. If your, the frequency is more low, your penetrate ready the; Manomaya. If the frequency is more, little more down then you are penetrate in; Viganamaya. The frequency is little more down, you are in the Anandamaya. If frequency is totally stopped, nothing, just… then Anandamaya, then the Atmamaya, Nithya Maya. You can call it as Nithya Maya or Atmamaya.

This four days; we are going to work only to penetrate this five layer. Penetrating this five layer means; stopping the, stopping the moments. Continuous running between past and the future, bringing it to a stop. Giving a break to time. Give time a break. Where is as embarrassment?

Participant: Apologize.

Ahh... Give time a break. If you go to tamil you will not give time a break with this mind. And actually I tell you, the guy, the person who do not know how to give time a break, can never have vacation. I tell you honestly; even if you go to beach and sit, what will you be doing? You will start thinking about, when you go to bed, next day office. What will I do in the next day office? What else you will do? And I tell you, all your vacation is just foolishness. All your vacation, all your holiday is just changing the worries; just changing the worries. You can not have vacation, you can not have a holiday, you can not have any enjoyment, unless you know the technique of bringing down the TPS.

Tell me, what do you know about enjoyment? What have you enjoyed, tell me. All your enjoyment is nothing but; changing the worries. Instead of worrying about how to clean the house and how to do things, you go and sit on the beach and start worrying; “ when would I go to office and what will I do? ” Worrying in the house is work, worrying in the office is profession, worrying in the beach is vacation, that’s all. In your life this is nothing else. Worrying in the house is work, worrying in the office is profession, worrying in the beach is vacation. Nothing else. What else you know about vacation? Nothing else. Unless you know how to give time a break, you can't have a vacation. All your vacation is just an idea about vacation, not originally vacation. Be very, very clear, all your idea about vacation is just idea about vacation, not vacation itself. Only when you can give time a break, that is only way to have the vacation.

Now really, this 4 days you are going to have a vacation. That is why, even with all the difficulties, I go to the kitchen, guys. Give food whenever they come, give food whenever they come. Here they'll making announcement for regular times, but you are not suppose to, you are not compelled to follow the regular times. It is up to you. Continuously give time a break. Continuously give time a break. One thing, by giving this freedom, I know there is, it is a big job for them. It is a big job for the kitchen people. But here I am trying to create a space where the TPS can be; brought down. Where the TPS can be brought down.

When you are with the person, with whom you don’t feel comfortable, happy, naturally your TPS is up. That is why, what you do? You feel bored, you are in suffering, that is why all hell is called eternal hell. Why you know? You, you feel the time is not moving. Even if it is 10 minutes, what you feel? 10 yuga. You don’t feel time is moving. You feel time is not moving, again you see the watch, time is not moving. It looks like a eternity. Even if you spend half an hour, it looks like a eternity. And heaven always looks very short. Oh! Time is up. Days are over. Heaven always looks short.

Even if you enjoy the whole life in the heaven, you feel: “ Oh, over, ended”. Again it’s over, you feel, it is ended. Why? Because the frequency is less. If the frequency is less you don’t feel the time passing. That is why in sanskrit, they say; in sanskrit time is measured psychologically, not chronologically. Kshana, Kshana means; gap between one thought and the other thought. See, in this level Kshana is too small. In this level Kshana is too big. In this level Kshana is too small. In this level Kshana is too big. That is why for Devatas, for us one year means for Devatas, no; for us one day, for us one full year is for Devatas one day. For us one year, what they say for Devatas? One day. That is why Nataraja will have only six abhishekams. In Shiva temples per day they will do six abhishekam. For Nataraja for whole one year they will do only six abhishekam. Because for Nataraja, the Devatas time is only calculated.

The cosmic dance frequency is very... Only when you come down in this frequency, can tune in that frequency; cosmic frequency. You go near the time shaft. He is dancing in the time shaft only. He that circle is time shaft, that circle is time shaft. Below you see the two snakes will be there, swallowing, the past is swallowing the future. From the past, the mouth of the future, the time shaft starts and ends in the mouth of the past. He is dancing in the time shaft. Only when you go near the time shaft, you will experience the cosmic dance. The bliss, the joy, Ananda Tandava, Ananda Narthana.

Only when you go near the time shaft, you can understand what is Ananda Tandava and what is Ananda Narthana. Otherwise what will you do? u...u...u, that much only you will do. Nothing else can be done. You can never understand real Ananda Tandava, you can never understand real cosmic dance. You can never understand the real joy. When the frequency is silenced, that is why he is called, he is, he is doing his cosmic dance in silence. Utter silence and the total dancing is one and the same. When the frequency is not there, where it is almost zero frequency, you can see the cosmic dance happening.

You can see the cosmic dance happening. Because he is that... frequency. That is why once a year only we do the six abhishekams. One year is considered for; as a one day for Nataraja, for Devatas. Only the guys who are living in that frequency can really understand who is Nataraja. All other people can only see he is dancing, that's all. Nothing else.

Participant: When you were talking about chronological worrying as opposed to chronological planning, I... This thing already upsets me because I don't know how to do it. I can understand it conceptually.

That's why I am creating a space for you now, these 4 days don’t move with the mind. Just witness the mind as much as possible. Don’t, don’t give food, don’t, no, don’t do anything, just witness. Let us see how much the body can pull you, how much the mind can pull you. Give a break. Give time a break, that’s all. These 4 days that is what I’m trying to give a love, to create a loving space. Let me explain; how the master’s presence is working in this.

Participant: Swamiji, yesterday some of us had a very confusing experience.

You shouldn't have discuss with others then it will be confusing.

Participant: No, no after you left, we were sitting for maybe 45 minutes to one hour.

Swamiji: You shouldn't even calculate if it was one hour.

Participant: No, no, they say; we didn’t get any thought.

Then, that’s all, sit, that’s all, sit for eternity, what is the wrong.

Participant; I am getting sleepy after that.

Then, then; naturally you see, if the sleep is too much, either your body will tell; “ let’s go and sleep in room or sleep here also.” Do that, what, that's all. That is what I told you. I’m creating a totally loving space, where you can experiment with this. You see in the house only you have thousand, one thousand problem. I can’t sit here, I can’t sit there. I can't do this, I can’t do that. Here 4 days give time a break. I’m creating a space for you, where you can experiment this ideas, where you can ripe, where you can become fruit. I want spiritual fruits, not religious nuts. I’m trying to work on religious nuts to make them as a spiritual fruits. As long as it is a faith, it is just a religious nut. Only when you are right, when you work with this concepts you become a spiritual fruit.

These 4 days give time a break. We are here just for that. If you, if you sleep, nothing wrong, sleep and if you witness that also, don’t sleep. And even when your ideas; “ want to sleep ” comes, just witness. Let the body fall the itself. Let things happen by itself. That is what I told you. That is what today morning, understood, none of you understood the technique. None of you understood the technique. I told you, witness 24 hours till the end. Whatever happens, let it happen, witness. You will not die. You will not die. These 4 days we’ll totally work, witness. Go ahead and just be a witness.

Naturally, your TPS comes down step by step. Now, we are going to penetrate layer by layer, step by step. Actually, this area, the transite that you will slowly stuck up, then again and again work. Again and again work deeply, so that we can penetrate to the end. So we can penetrate the eternity, the Nithya.

Details

The talk

Date
7 January 2005
Place
AdiKailash,Bidadi, Bangalore
Type
Atma Spurana
Language
English

The transcript

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Length
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