“Participant [Tamil] [Translation scroll] “Earlier, when I closed my…”
Participant [Tamil] [Translation scroll] “Earlier, when I closed my eyes, I would usually see Swamiji’s form in my third eye. Now, I am able to see many incarnations and beings one by one, through my third eye.”
Swamiji: That’s what, you see. Understand Me as a Shiva, only then you can enjoy Me really as a Krishna. Only then your enjoying can be solid, otherwise you are enjoying me just vague. Two days …inaudible... you will find much better show you’ll go there. Two program you attend, you find somewhere better show, better cinema, you will go to that show. Your enjoying will not be deep if your personality is not deep. You see, if you are in annamaya kosha, how much you can enjoy? Your enjoying capacity itself will be very low. Annamaya kosha is between 100 to 80... 79, by 80 it becomes pranamaya, 79. No, no, no, 81, 81, 81; 100 to 81. All your suffering level and the enjoying level, it becomes between the 81.
You see, within 81 TPS how much you can enjoy Me, tell Me? Your enjoyment capacity will be very low. In annamaya kosha, if you taste a sweet, if it seems inaudible 10% same sweet will taste if you are in anandamaya kosha 100%. The same sweet will become 100% because the capacity to enjoy will become more. The sensitivity, the life, the aliveness will become more. When I say sajiva and sajitva, this is what I mean. Sajitva means what? I mean totally alive, eternally alive. Eternally alive. The enjoying capacity will become too much. You will be just overflowing. That is what I say, when the TPS comes down, the same water will become amrita, same water will become amrita. The same food will become amrita. The same …inaudible… will become Devavrikshas, that kalpavriksha or Parijatha; Parijatha and kalpavriksha. Same ordinary chair will become ratna simhasana. Same wife will become Rambha (Swamiji laughing) 😃
[Participant asks something [husband becomes?] to which Swamiji says Indra 😃]
The intensity, intensity will become more. The intensity will become deep. You see in the 100 TPS what will you enjoy? As long as you are in annamaya kosha, what will you enjoy? You can’t. Even when Krishna aspect, you can’t enjoy totally. Unless you see the shiva aspect, unless you go little deep, you can’t enjoy. That is what I am telling, don’t create your own imagination about Me by ASP or NSP. And that is what, I think so many of you came thinking that only “Ohhh, 4 days we can jump around Swami. 😃 Many came, at least many - many came, “we can jump around”. How many, how many with that same imagination with ASP NSP. Ohh only few. No, now so many are not raising their hand 😃
Participant: Morning I was talking to ...inaudible... I kept hearing lectures of Swamiji. He kept telling to get enlightenment you will have to drop enlightenment. You don’t need to go anywhere to Atma Spurana you drop little ...inaudible...
Swamiji: 😃 That’s what… 😃 then next
Participant: Being at peace with yourself, that dimension, only after I met You, I understood that. I see children of today, they play computer, they play these video games, and everywhere. They all want some action. They can’t sit for five minutes and do anything.. and that seems to be the way the entertainment society teaches them.
Participant: ...inaudible...
Swamiji: Maybe he is also attending the discourse. But let him attend sitting there.., Participant: For that Swamiji is there any meditation?
Swamiji: At least once a day, half an hour let them be trained to sit silently.
Participant: Swamiji, while breathing after sometime I could see cat face, tiger face, and after few seconds, I have seen you in four faces in four directions for nearly some ten seconds.
Swamiji: Brahma, it means you have touched your Swadhisthana.
Participant: And I try to regain again, but I could not.
Swamiji: Hmm, You have touched your swadhisthana. That's what, why do you try to relive/rebuild, then again you miss the technique. You are supposed only witness and destroy it. You see the moment you, you touched the swadhisthana and had a vision of Brahma, if you just witness and try to move away from it, you will see the Vishnu, the manipura chakra. You will come up. If you try to hold or relive , what will you do? You will fall down. So never try to hold the visions. Please be clear. Only try to be with more and more deeper witnessing consciousness. Witness.
Participant: inaudible this direction from Gayatri mantra. errr, Swamiji has given the ultimate technique, does it apply to all other mantras?
Swamiji: You see, gayathri has spread more. So more people for more people to fall in tune with that mantra is chance and listen only that cassette, it is, it is same only in that context. That’s all. When I come to maha mantra you will see, there is no other technique. You see My aim is inspiring; if you believe in that then use the Gayatri mantra, that’s the ultimate technique. If you believe in this use the Maha Mantra, this is the ultimate technique. So My purpose is to put you into the technique, to blank you totally from anything else. For that reason only that word is used.
Participant: ….used with total belief that becomes ultimate.
Swamiji : Yes. that's it. whichever.
Participant: Swamiji yesterday in question and answer You talked about fear and greed. During NSP, one of the things we do is we write to…. explore both dimensions. One of the things I understood in NSP was that to focus on what you want to do, in terms of what you feel energy towards.. energy to that need or desire. and then that becomes….energy
Swamiji: Reality
Swamiji: When, when, when you give energy to the desire, it can’t be called any more as desire, it's a living path. As long as you are not able to supply enough energy to the desire, its a desire, it is a weight on you. If you are able to supply energy, the desire will simply disappear. Only if it is necessary it will be alive and show you the path. It will become a torch. The very desire without energy, when you are with the desire, it will become a just desire and hangover. Because, if you are not fulfilling, it will be a weight on you. If you are fulfilling, again it will create guilt in you - unfulfilled feeling - Guilt in you. When you are not there with the desire, only energy is there with the desire, the same desire will become a torch to show, guide your life. Without fulfilling also it will not disturb you. After fulfilling also you will feel tremendous fulfillment.
Participant: Swami, On one hand you’re saying flow, and whatever comes to you is what is necessary for you. On the other hand you’re talking about empowering desire. Isn't there a kind of er?
Swamiji: mh, you see, one thing, mh, you are asking the question in the other way. “One side you say don’t put effort, the other side you say put effort.” You stop- actually whatever is happening to you, you are stopping it. I am asking you to stop the action stopping. Whatever is coming to you, you are not letting it happen actually. You are stopping it. So by empowering your desires I am asking to stop the action of stopping. Ok? I am asking you to cooperate with what is happening by asking you to empower the desires. Now, as on now if something is coming to you, it is not that you are directly accepting it. You are trying to create so many blockages. I am just telling you, don’t create blockages, by asking you to empower the desires. Ananda Spurana is happening. You are stopping. When I say stop, I am saying you to stop the action of stopping the Ananda spurana. Then naturally Ananda Spurana will happen.
Now clear? After attending 50 Ananda Spurana, this answer comes up.
Participant: What is the basic difference between mediation and ritual?
Swamiji: Ah, anything, anything done with the sincerity and emotion/devotion, it becomes a meditation. Anything done with a dead feeling, just “ahhh it has to be done” fear and greed, then becomes ritual, that’s all. Even Maha Mantra if you do it just with “uh it has to be done” then it becomes a ritual. Even the great, even this puja ritual if it is done with so much love and emotion/devotion it becomes meditation.
Participant: Only confusion was before I came here I thought I was progressing. Today I know how much I have progressed.
Swamiji: Ah you see, understand, Only in purnima moon you can see the flaws in the moon, you can see the black patches. Can you see the black patches in the amavasya day? Only by the light of the moon the black patches of the moon is seen. Only by your own intelligence you can understand you are not progressing. The moment you understand you are not progressing, you have started progressing. Only when the intelligence becomes more, you can understand your problems and difficulties. So when you understand you have so many problems please be very clear you already started solving the problems.
Participant: Swamiji one friend is doing Gayatri mantra every day morning. sometimes till 8 o'clock facing the sun. One day he has done nearly more than two hours sometimes. So, two bullocks, two cows, two buffalos, two/three dogs, all are just standing around him and people are just seeing, so many people are gathered. He was just doing outside the house. Everybody is silent. After that, even he is not knowing for how long he’s doing it. Only after coming out of the mantra then he has seen er so many things.
Swamiji: mh, that’s good,mh It means he has done very well. He has gone deep to,deep into the pranamaya kosha, ahimsa pratisthayam vaira-tyagah. Pantajali yoga sutra says, if you are established in that ahimsa energy in front of you even animals keeps silent.
Participant: And he is seeing uh something a bright light coming out of his body..
Swamiji: That’s good
Participant: swami ji, er One of Swamiji’s devotees I heard, whenever he comes for blessing, when he catches your feet, when he sees your leg directly, next day onwards, he is able to read the papers without spectacles. And that power is there for about a week or so and it decreases.
Swamiji: Means the TPS became silent; actually when you put your head on My feet, especially with so much love and devotion, the TPS just sucked, pulled down. Just you are brought down. Oh hahaha, what I am telling, when you put, with love and.. you see, when you are away from Me, you are just continuously thinking of Me. “When will I see Him again, when will I think of Him, when will I touch him? When will I have his darshan? When will I be able to do Namaskar?” You are continuously thinking. So that creates a deep devotion in you. When you come near Me and touch My feet, simply the TPS is brought down. The TPS is brought down. Means what. If you are having usually a 100 TPS, it is just brought down to 20 -30. When the TPS falls down tremendously the energy becomes high, too much of energy; the ajna gets the power. You don’t need glass, you became alive. But after one week again the TPS goes up. Take some technique, every day practise at least 20-30 minutes. You will see that TPS, already able to maintain the same TPS. mh.
Meditation is the only way to maintain the low TPS. It is all just low TPS, nothing else. See, you are coming in front of zero TPS, actually when you come with a total devotion and utter surrender, just by seeing Me you can become enlightened. Just by seeing Me, you can become enlightened.
Actually ayya was asking, when he was giving meanings, I was sitting. Somebody said “Swamiji, why don’t You”, something like Eshwari or something I said. “Why don’t you give the name Nithyeshwari Swamiji?” I said, “No no no, I am keeping that name for reserve for somebody who will just see Me and become enlightened.” For that person only that name is waiting. That Nithyeshwari name is waiting for that person. Actually when you are totally utterly devoted, when you have a deep surrender, the moment you see and drop, simply the TPS becomes zero TPS. Simply you can touch the zero TPS.
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- 8 January 2005
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