“How many of you honestly had this binary experience?”

How many of you honestly had this binary experience? Raise your hand. Alright, okay. It means something worthy.

Participant: But not continuously for a long time.

SPH: Ah, then okay, alright. Other people don't bother. If 60% of the group achieves, the group conscious will take you, you don’t have to bother. Anything - that is why actually we do any meditation techniques in group, the group conscious will push you. Alright, yes.

Participant: Could I say when you talk about binary, when the image work that the prana separates from the breath? SPH: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, not that prana separates from the breath, the prana movement itself stops.

Actually, the movement of the prana stops yet there is no need for the prana to move because there is a - inside your body and outside your body is the same prana. When your ego is there, you need to take the prana and leave the prana. When you don’t have ego, the same prana just exists. There is no need for pranas movement. More the prana moves more egoistic you become. Because we interfere, we enter into the body, we need to move, take the prana and leave the prana. If we are not present, simply prana will be there.

Where is the ego? Only where - when you enter into the body, whole trouble starts.

Participant: But will not the breathing stop?

SPH: That is what I am telling, that is what binary. Utter relaxed breathing.

Participant: Yeah, we couldn’t see the movement, Swamiji.

SPH: Hmm, that’s what. No movement.

Participant: Without walking with those seamless integration.

SPH: No, no movement, no movement is what is seamless integration.

Participant: Between inhaling and exhaling.

SPH: Yes, there will be no more movement, just a point.

Tak 0, 0, 1, 0, 1, 0, 1 - that’s all.

Participant: I think, naturally...

Participant: But when we observed that, it started once again. When I observed that it started once again.

SPH: Again, it means TPS has become too much - you have come to annamaya., you have come to annamaya. No, you can’t let that happen.

Participant: Breaths become shorter and shorter and shorter.

SPH: It should not be there at all.

Participant: What is that pull that…? Something is pulling inside.

SPH: Pulling inside? Then again you are - then only the process is happening, you have not entered the process.

Participant: Couple of occasions, where you feel you are breathing and then you don’t feel anything at all, then suddenly there is sometimes like uh...

SPH: Maybe the TPS dropping, when the TPS drops you are just settling. That’s what, TPS drops.

Participant: I found that inhaling and exhaling almost effortless.

SPH: Hmm, ah. No, no, no, no, again even then the TPS is high. It should not happen at all. Only then you have touched the pranamaya. You have come to the manomaya end. If it is happening effortless then you are in the pranamaya. You have gone to the manomaya end. If it is happening effortless then you are in the pranamaya, you have not matured to go to manomaya.

Okay, at least work on manomaya deeply. Let the TPS come down. Yes.

Participant: What about the body rotating, what...?

SPH: Ah, this, this I saw. It’s okay. It’s okay.

Participant: Should we cooperate with it or ?

SPH: No, no, no, no, neither cooperate nor suppress, just witness, just witness. Don’t cooperate, don’t suppress, witness; let it happen.

Alright, any other questions? No other questions?