“Participant: okay I have two questions in the intensity.”
Participant: okay I have two questions in the intensity. It seems like the natural course of the meditation, the breathing slows down. But when my numbing was so great and the pain was great, I ….
Swamiji: Witness the pain ma.
Participant: I witnessed it. But I increased my breath. Then I felt totally like delirious and dizzy and don’t know what is going to happen.
Swamiji: You are not supposed to increase the breath. Why there is no need just witness, witness, witness. Till the end only one technique, only one word witness. Witness the witness.
Participant: I have a question about the numbing. Because I still can’t get my right leg awake.
Swamiji: Sit in the chair that's all.
Participant: It’s been like that all night
Swamiji: No, sit in the chair. That’s all.
Participant: Swami, I just, I wanted to share that it was just been the greatest healing for me because twenty five years ago last night when the time we were doing this meditation, was when I got the news of my daughter’s death 25 years ago. And so my laughing was like I, I was concerned, I tried to suppress it for a while because I knew I might be disturbing people, but it was like I can’t believe that I am so happy. Because I just thought I will never be happy again.
Swamiji: 😊 Wonderful.
Participant: I wanted to start a laughing club.
Swamiji: 😊 😊 Of course we are laughing club only. 😊😊 And our guys were uproarious laughter; the whole city will shake. If I let this in the hall ma, I don’t think ten people and all? Just two, three is enough to shake any city.
Any other question?
Participant: Last night I was meditating under the banyan tree with chin mudra, then my anja chakra then brahma muhurta.
Swamiji: No, no you shouldn't have mixed the techniques, now forget about everything else and go only with this pranamaya. I tell all of you, you will not do any other technique. You will not do any other technique. You see I'm working in a deeper angle with you. Whatever you know ananda ganda will become more sharp when you will go through these things. But don’t please mix any other technique. Now do only these techniques.
Participants: unclear???
Swamiji: no, no, no, that’s okay. The regular mahamantra here will be happening. If you participate okay, if you don’t okay. But no other techniques in the particular timings.
Participant: When I shifted from anandamaya kosha to pranamaya kosha I felt that my third eye closing and I stared (not audible) after sometime my hands became so heavy. I could not shift it in spite of my efforts. Ultimately I requested him go away I have to go. Slowly it became very light and I came out.
Swamiji: There is no need even to come here, you just witness the thoughts. It will become more and more soft, okay anyhow. But continuously witness, witness, witness. Yes..
Participant: After laying down also the consciousness only on break. In the middle when we get up also is the same.
Swamiji: Again 😊 ah, ha 😊😊😊 Ah it means you are successful.
Participant: Even my walking...
Swamiji: Ah that is what. Achieving vipassana is nothing but having the breath watch in the dream state. Already you have entered; you entered vipassana. When it is done systematically with the clear understanding. Especially this diagram is I think some unique gift. This diagram explains practically all the questions. All the basic questions are answered just by this time shaft and this diagram, practically over. When the clear clarity happen to you straight away all your energies are concentrated into the technique. Especially in the right technique step by step when you go in simply things are achieved. Nice. See you achieved the state of upasana, he achieved the state of vipassana. Upasana means is having the darshan of the devata. You have the darshan of Dakshinamurthy. He achieved the breath watch he stayed in the brain, both are great achievements. Generally how long it takes? And they say if you chant any devatas mantra for twelve years only then you will have have the vision. And you do twelve years of breath watching only then you will achieve vipassana. You guys are simply happened. That’s nice. Next .
Participant: When I am watching my breath, it feels very relaxed and the breath slows right down. It becomes very very small and it’s hard to see the four points. I can’t see the change.
Swamiji: No, again make your witness more sharp. Let the witnessing consciousness become more sharp. But it always happens only as four cycle either four or no cycle. It totally stops. It becomes a straight line; not even straight line, just a point. So then you have to only improve your consciousness, go on, go on.
Participant: (Tamil) After finishing meditation I was laying down to sleep for an hour when your voice said to witness the sleep.
Swamiji: That’s nice, witness.
Participant: (Tamil) witnessing means watching the thoughts in the mind. Then who is watching that witness?
Swamiji: (Tamil) That is consciousness; that is your being.
Even the idea of witnessing will disappear only then the atmanjna…. The atama spurana will start happening.
Participant:(Tamil) The four prana movements happens in the nostrils, I feel the first other three I do not.
Swamiji: Even inside the nostrils no movement should be there...just becomes silent.
Participant: (says in Tamil) I am already meditating annapurna. But that is different?
Swamiji: Anapanacity is different. This is not anapancity. But anapancity can creates schizophrenias. Be very careful. Anapancity straightway schizophrenia. Schizophrenic status: be very careful with anapancity. It should happen like by step by step; You see first…(not audible) like this step by step it should happen. And moreover in NSP I already I cleaned the guilt, like this, this, so much is already digged out. Now if you go deep nothing much will come out. But directly straightaway if go what will happen? All the septic tank - mandapa vasal will open 😊 Everything else will come out.
Participant: (Tamil) All pranayama that we are doing it happens on its own without our efforts.
Swamiji: hmmm
Participant: Swamiji you said at some point it becomes a point when we watch it, what do you mean by that.
Swamiji: You naturally come to manomaya kosha.
Participant: is it just as one awareness?
Swamiji: No, no no there will be grieving at all, just you will be there. Just it will be like binary, zero, one; zero one; zero one that is all like tck tak; tuk tak; tuk tak; eh matter and energy, just the binary will be there nothing else,else. Actually binaries originated from here only. The binary concept is brahma sakti. From brahma sakti concept only binary concept came.
Participant: Swamiji but it is not always constant; as I go through the four cycles once in a while I have this.
Swamiji: hmm that’s what then you have TPS is becoming high, you are again thrown out starts scrambling😊. When you become little silent; when you become satchitananda then you become nobody. Then become scrambling as sheep and again thrown out 😊.
Participant: Swamiji even the body pain or the nose keep breathing out, is because of TPS.
Swamiji: Any body pain is nothing but too much of TPS. Any physical disease also is high TPS only.
Participant: It is the posture, the sitting posture is pain Swamiji?
Swamiji: Ah’ Okay you see in that way even if you witness actually even that will melt down. That will just melt down. You see just visualize just put a lock and lock it. You will see simply the pain will not be there. You can’t move actually the body. Actually h’m, h’m.
Participant: (Tamil) Swamiji the body consciousness is lost but is it because of the sleep problem or meditation.
Swamiji: 😊😊That only you understand, if you are aware of body consciousness losing then meditation. If you are not aware then 😊 that’s all.
Participant: Swamiji I noticed one more thing for me, that there are less thoughts coming.
Swamiji: That TPS coming down, TPS dropping.
Participant: when the breathing is slowing down, I am feeling all around that the intensity also slows down.
Swamiji: You will be falling asleep, that is why you see intensity is going up, down. Otherwise nothing.
Participant: so many.. I would like to just ask whenever sort of breathing in, breathing out and then overlapping I was having all that four things just on the duct. That means I felt that whole thing is narrowed down and I could, I was very deep breath, when I was breathing out before that I could see there is a, everything is in a tranquilant state!
Swamiji: That's wonderful’ that’s wonderful. You see if you just see in the state continuously you will be rejuvenated, continuously you will be rejuvenated. Actually prana is not breath. Prana is the energy which is taken through the breath. Breathing is like a lorry. Prana is the stuff which comes inside the lorry. So in that.. if you stay in that state, it’s wonderful. It will lead you to manomaya kosha. It will bring down the TPS, wonderful thing. You see if you chant Gayatri one lakh two lacks time this state will be achieved, lacks and lacks of Mantra Japa will bring you down to the pranamaya kosha. That’s why we do the Mantra Japa. But not with the full speed. (fast chanting the gayatri mantra)……...😊 that will not. That will only increase the TPS.
Om Bhur Bhuvaḥ Swaḥ
Tat-savitur Vareñyaṃ
Bhargo Devasya Dheemahi
Dhiyo Yonaḥ Prachodayāt
a gap, awareness, one gap of awareness then again
Om Bhur Bhuvaḥ Swaḥ
Tat-savitur Vareñyaṃ
Bhargo Devasya Dheemahi
Dhiyo Yonaḥ Prachodayāt
Actually in this way if you will chant, within few minutes you will feel the syllables are too much on you. The mantra words are too much on you. Your mind is dropping below the mantra. Simply the mantra will drop. Only then, prana cycle will be happening. Now actually for people who touch the pranamaya kosha if you try to chant the mantra it will be too heavy on you. The TPS will be increase you will be able to find out clearly, The once you touch the pranamaya if you take up any mantra TPS will increase so you will become mantratita, or you are achiever of the siddhi of mantra. You won’t need any more mantra you cross the pranamaya. Till Pranamaya only you will need mantra, after that no mantras.
Participant: (Tamil) when I am inhaling and exhaling breath during the turning point I feel a force from my mooladhara to ajna chakra.
Swamiji: (Tamil) witness it, it is not a thing it’s good experience, but go ahead witness.
Participant: Swamiji the curve when we exhale and before inhaling that is much longer than the curve from the inhaling to exhaling it is very short.
Swamiji: That shouldn’t be the case, because continuously witness that shouldn’t be the case because this gap should be small and that gap will be more. Only then you will have life, long life. So that shouldn’t be the case, continue to witness it will become automatically adjust itself.
Participant: (not audible)
Swamiji: You see the outside to inside turning; outside to inside turning must be less. Inside to outside turning will be more. Only then the life will be longer. Your life thing will be longer. These are all very intrinsic yogic secrets. 😊 Actually just by holding the hand of a person, you can tell how long he will live. Simply you can tell how long he will live. 😊
Participant: When TPS is more you practice this meditation.
Swamiji: Ah yes. When the TPS is more just you see I am now we are working so deeply by tomorrow, today evening I will get result for zero TPS. Great result, then you don’t need to anything else, you do only anandamaya kosha technique, anandamaya kosha technique will be more deeper. By now you will have the tract and reach the anandamaya. So whenever you are in the high TPS, hundred or something, wherever you are in the high TPS, the moment you become anandamaya kosha technique, simply it will be dropped, you will drop into the anandamaya kosha. Simply the TPS will drop. The very remembrance, the very remembrance; that’s what just smriti, smarana is more than enough.
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- 7 January 2005
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