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27 January 2005

Beyond All Doubts!

VerifiedShiva Sutras·Adi Kailasa, Bengaluru, Karnataka, Bharat·13 min
The Satsang

Anyhow, now let us move to the Anahata.

Participant: I think the world’s 7 wonders also, I think some, somehow falls in a way on the...

SPH: I don’t know. Let us see.

Participant: The Great Wall of China

SPH: Now, now, let, let us uhh, Great Wall of China - Swadhisthana. Taj Mahal - Mooladhara. Correct. 😄 That’s what.😄

Participant: Pyramids?

SPH: Pyramids must be Sahasrara, pyramids must be Sahasrara. Mmm, because they have deep energy.

Participant: 7 seas.

SPH: Let us start, uhh, that, let, first let us, uhh, please get Me what ………..us then we’ll connect and explain it.

Participant: Pyramids

SPH: And that’s what, let, uhh, we’ll connect, hmm? Before that let me finish this, this shad darshanas.

Participant: (inaudible)

SPH: Maybe comparison, because they wanted to stand, to prove. May..maybe it’ll be Ajna, ego. We don’t know, hmm, to prove.

Participant:I have the... Participant: Columns of...

SPH: That’s what, no, that’s natural.

Participants: inaudible)

SPH: Pisa, Pisa tower maybe for Vishuddhi, comparison, something unique.

Participant: Hanging Garden

SPH: Alright, get on uh, write it, list it out, we will compare.

Participant: Swamiji, said some cities and countries are in ………inaudible……..

SPH: Let us ah, let us speak about that, hmm. You get the fact, get the 7 things, we’ll compare and bring it out.

Now let us go to Anahata chakra. The persons, the people who are caught in Anahata, they produce a philosophy called Vaisheshika, the Chaitanya, all these people are from Vaisheshika. Means, just love, love, love. Nothing else. Vaisheshika is nothing but love, antidote for logic, that’s all.

Participant: Anti?

SPH: Dote for logic.

Participant: (inaudible)

SPH: Ahh, you see, materialism, the love, materialism is one and the same. Mmh. Attention is nothing but materialism. Hmmm, ganaatha. In Vaisheshika, these guys have tried to give the solution, ‘what constitutes seed?’ They started telling ‘love’. That is why you have a statement “love is God.” That is why you have the statement “love is God.”

Means, the persons who are stuck in Anahata, they try to give a reply, for the question ‘what constitutes seed?’ That question only creates Vaisheshika. Again and again, Chaitanya says: “Start loving Krishna. Start loving Krishna,” things are over. They start giving love as a solution that they start telling, “love constitutes the seed, love is God”. Vaisheshika.

Participant: Like Osho.

SPH: Ahhh, one way we can..we can say, he’s that philosophy.

Then comes Vishuddhi, people who are caught in the Vishuddhi, people who are caught in the throat centre. For them came Yoga. You are supposed to become something unique. And Patanjali’s system itself is created, comparing all the systems. Comparing all the systems. He comes out and tries to give a reply, ‘what constitutes seed?’ And he comes out with a system called Yoga, his reply.

Next comes, the persons who are caught in Ajna. Their reply for this question, ‘what constitutes seed?’ is what is Sankhya. They give the reply of Sankhya. Purshattva or Ishvarattva, means, the more your ego is expanded, more you become great. The more you think yourself as a big, the more you become great. That is the philosophy of whole Sankhya. If you want anything, if you want to become big, sit under a tree, close your eyes and strongly imagine, visualize, you have become big. You’ll become big. That is the philosophy of Sankhya.

Participant: Buddha

SPH: That’s the philosophy of sankhya. Ajna. These guys have replied, ‘what constitutes seed?’ These guys have replied, ‘Thought, the power of thought’, Sankhya guys. Power of ajna. Ajna means Sankalpa. Sankhya guys, that is why ‘Sankalpa.’ From Sankhya only the word ‘Sankalpa’ came. Sankhya guys, they say Sankalpa, means, Ajna. Ajna means Sankalpa. That is ultimate. Understand...

Participant: Advaitha is a...

SPH: No. Advaitha is what is Purva uhhh, Uttara Mimamsa, Vedanta, Swadhisthana.

Listen here, these guys who are stuck, who are caught in Ajna, they gave the reply. Their reply only is in….. their reply only came out in the form of Sankhya philosophy. Anybody who tried to reply this question from this 6 chakras, they created philosophies, Darshanas.

Understand this small story, 6 blind fellows were sent to write an article about an elephant. They, all the 6 asked: “We should see the elephant.” Elephant was brought, all the 6 guys were allowed to go and feel the elephant. The guy who went and caught hold of the tail, he wrote an article “Elephant is broomstick.” The guy who went and felt the legs, he wrote an article “Elephant is a pillar.” The guy who felt the trunk, he wrote a article, “It is a pounding stick. Elephant is pounding stick.” The guy who felt the ears, he wrote the article, “It’s a sieve. Elephant is nothing but sieve. Nothing but sieve.” Each guy who felt... each guy felt in his own way, wrote articles in his own way. Finally all the 6 started fighting. “No, my article is right.” “My version is right.” “My philosophy is right.” “My argument is right.” “Mine is ultimate.” The person who takes care of the elephant, bowed, he sees from Sahasrara. He says, “Array, all you 6 are put together and something more is elephant. All your guys articles put together and something more is elephant.” When you see from Sahasrara, you give a different explanation. The guy who has seen from Sahasrara Mahouta, he saw the fight and he never created philosophy. He never told these blind people: “What you’re talking is wrong.” He just brought some medicine and gave vision to all these 6 guys. That’s all. He just brought a technique, through which all the 6 can have vision, full vision.

Now, Shiva is never going to answer your question ‘what constitutes seed?’ Shiva is not going to answer your question ‘what constitutes seed?’ Shiva is not going to answer this question and create one more philosophy, no. He is not interested in falling in the category of philosophers. He just created a technique to give you vision. He never answers any of this question, that is the beauty of Shiva Sutras. None of these questions are answered, because they are all doubts, not questions. None of these doubts are straightaway addressed. Simply He gives the technique. He gives the technique: Let you have vision and see what you want.

Four guys were there, they went to a tank to drink water. Before entering into the tank itself, all the 4 started fighting. “I’m going to drink paani.” The other guys said, “No, no, only water is there. How will you drink paani[water in Hindi]?” The third guy said, “Eh, array, my grandfather built that tank, only thaneer [water in tamil] is there. How will you drink water?” The other guys: “My father only is maintaining. I know only paani is there. How will you drink water?” All the 4 started fighting with each other before entering into the tank. There came a man, he simply pushed all the 4 into the tank. There they understood, ‘water,’ ‘thanni,’ ‘paani,’ ‘neer,’ everything is same.

So now, Shiva is not going to give you the answer for this question, ‘what constitutes seed?’ He’s not going to give you the answer. If He gives the answer he’ll become one more philosopher. He’s not staying in any of this Chakras. He’s staying in the Sahasrara. He’s staying in the Sahasrara. That is why He’s described in this form, Brahma, Vishnu, Rudra, Maheshvara, Sadashiva. All of them are in the lower Chakras. He is above all of them. Anandeshwara. He’s sitting with Anandeshwara and Anandeshwari. He’s in the Sahasrara. So He’s not going to give you answer, to create one more philosophy. He’s just going to give you the technique, so that you will realize it. You will become enlightened.

Now the next question: “Who sent us the universal being?” We’ll see this question in the next session. Enough for now. Thank you.

Participant: The cycle of energy, in all 7 levels, again why cycles …inaudible…..?

SPH: Ah, because, you always, you are in move. The... anything alive moves.

Participant: (dynamic inaudible)

SPH: Ahh, anything alive only moves. It is not that it is a clear cycle, it can go in a zig-zag cycle. From Mooladhara you may suddenly go to Sahasrara. And from Sahasrara you may suddenly come to Manipuraka. From Manipuraka you may suddenly go to Vishuddhi. From vishuddhi you may suddenly come away to Swadhisthana. From Swadhisthana you may suddenly go away to Ajna. Any may, but this way it happens, goes on. Goes on, goes on, goes on.

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The talk

Date
27 January 2005
Place
Adi Kailasa, Bengaluru, Karnataka, Bharat
Type
Shiva Sutras
Language
English

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