“Participant: Especially in Tamil Nadu when you said that by neglecting…”

Participant: Especially in Tamil Nadu when you said that by neglecting Sanskrit they have done a great disservice, I was little surprised because very much anti popular. And you used very strong words (participants laughing) I was really scared.

SPH: No. The truth. Truth has to be told. You don’t, you see, can you read ThirukKural in english? You can understand what Valluvar wants to say but you can never understand the juice. The same way, how can you read mantras in Tamil, tell me? It has got its own vibration. You understand. Mantras are not linguistic, they are sounds. What is the other word?

Participant: Phonetic

SPH: Phonetic. They are phonetic , not linguistic. If it is a linguistic prose, can be translated. All prose literature is linguistic, can be translated. All poems are phonetic; that can not be translated. How can you translate? It's from heart to heart. It can never be translated. This guy should understand. What to do?

Participant: Likewise, numerology, gemology and all that you blasted, I was, I worry!

SPH: Enough. If he believes stones, only is nothing more than a stone. Actually the originally there is a little bit, scientific truth in Vastu but these guys have added too much of rules and just like a contract between doctors and medical shops. It is has become a contract between the civil engineer and the vastu guys. It has become a contract. If you have spent 10 lakh for building a house , to redo the, they ask for 15lakhs. That’s why I say don’t bother.

Participant: All these truths were told to Ramakrishna and Vivekananda’s disciples also? Like you tell us on each...

SPH: No, no, no.

Participant: We are so lost, completely, without look at myself

SPH: No, no again when the enlightened master opens up, only then all these, all these things lands.

Participant: Again it's all in poetry?

SPH: Again and again this knowledge is forgotten. In the 9th chapter of Gita, Krishna says: raja-vidya raja-guhyam pavitram idam uttamam. Again,and euh, it is a greatest secret and its a greatest vidya. Again and again we lose this knowledge.

Participant: Why, it happens?

SPH: Naturally, there is nobody to carry that torch. How many will dedicate their life to carry the torch.

Participant: Without the Enlightened master, all these truths also conveyed...no meaning at all.

SPH: No meaning. Just confusion. Just confusion. Nothing else. Without master simply confusion.

Participant: During this Himalayan trip… Your Upanishad became alive for us.. not just books.

SPH: I started speaking on 3 Upanishads.

Participant: I understood Upanishads, only after I came to you Swamiji. I had two big collections, which were gathering dust.

SPH: Just to keep under the pillows.

Participant: Now I am reading one one book in the night. The level of understanding, before nothing.

SPH: Actually when the, euh that's what, when the Guru blesses you, all the knowledge comes, just comes, just like that comes to you. And actually in this one diagram I put everything, all the zig zag puzzles fall in one line. Over. This same concept is explained in Taittiriya Upanishad. Annamayam, the all the 5 Koshas. Annam na Dhyat Navya Dhyanat. annaṁ na nindyāt | tad vratam . The, about the 5 Koshas, there are beautiful mantras. Hmm, I’ll chant after the, there is a long mantra, it is actually au.. It starts with one trend. Anandam Vyachar Yeti. It starts like a don’t waste, Don’t au.. miss it. Something like that the 5 Koshas are explained.

Actually it is such a complicated meaning, that's why I didn't even keep the mantra track, track of the mantra. So if you read the original mantras, you’ll only be little more confusion, nothing else. You will not able to understand much. But when, it comes like this straight, now if you read the mantra, naturally everything will fall in line. Everything will fall in tune.

Participant: How should we read

SPH: Annam Brahmeti Navya Jaanaat…annam...annaat bhootani cha... jaataani... something like that it goes. Then Pranam Brahmeti, Pranaat….something like that all the 5 steps they go around.

Participant: How should we read it Swamiji? First Sanskrit and Tamil and then translation both we should read?

SPH: Translation

Participant: I never try to by heart.

SPH: Ah! Yes, never try to by heart. Just whatever it supposed to be by heart, it will be there in you and whatever is supposed to be forgotten, forgot. You see now I forgot this mantra. I don’t bother about it. Let it be forgotten. If it is necessary it will stay. Otherwise don’t accumulate unnecessary memories. If you accumulate unnecessary memories, you will not remember what you are supposed to remember.

Participant: Swamiji, is there is simple way that you can explain the nexus between the 5 sheaths and 7 layers of the realms?

SPH: Ahhh! Same thing yesterday I explained. I think you slept. From zero TPS to 100 TPS, if you make it as a 5, it is Annamaya, Pranamaya, Manomaya, Vijnanamaya, Anandamaya Kosha. If from zero to 100, if you make it as 7 portion, 7 bodies. Over. One and the same. 100 by 7, how many percentage it comes.

Participant: 14,14

SPH: 13, 13, 13, 13. Seven bodies. 20, 20, 20. Five bodies. Over. Same thing, simply the same thing.

Participant: Then why we have

SPH: That, in that we cleansed and inserted. In this you are working. Inserting the consciousness, awareness. Don’t think in one NSP you can become enlightened. In that I am helping you to leave the body with consciousness; it’s only for death. This is for living. Here I am trying to give you a resort, even at the time of living you can go and rest and have your own parking space.

Participant: Can’t hear Is Enlightenment inner orgasm?

SPH: Yes. Continuous inner orgasm is Enlightenment; continuous inner orgasm without break is what I call, not even inner orgasm, inner orgasms, thousands continuously happening is what I call enlightenment. That is why the moment I put my hand on your head you feel so much of energy. Something is being showered.

Participant: Continue our Ananda Gandha and some of these techniques and combinations?

SPH: I’ll, I’ll give you that in the end Anandamaya Kosha, that time you can take up.

Participant: you don’t have to practice?

SPH: uh You see actually Ma. If you have mastered the maha mantra, then you change it.

Participant: At the end of this will you give us kind of a thing that we need to work towards enlightenment?

SPH: There is no need even to give. I am not going to give. I am just going to give you the intelligence and the zero TPS experience. So whenever you want automatically you will remember that zero TPS experience and automatically you will go and reside in it. Over. You don’t need to have any technique. Again the technique may increase the TPS. You will have one more war. I am just going to give you the memory of the zero TPS and glimpse of zero TPS. Whenever you your TPS is high, just it will come up and pull you down to the zero TPS and relax.

Participant: No Maha Mantra is required?

SPH: If you have mastered, then there is, no Maha Mantra is required. Actually if you mastered this zero TPS, then no technique is required, otherwise practice some technique. If you miss it, practice the technique.

Participant: Inner orgasm to be experienced as a outer orgasm. How to relate with Bhramcharya?

SPH: Hm. Inner orgasam should be experienced to experience the outer orgasm. See the outer orgasm is chemical. It can happen any time. But the inner orgasm is spiritual. When you create that much of energy only it happens. How to relate with Brahmacharya? When the inner orgasm happens, you don’t need outer orgasm. It is not that you can’t have outer orgasm. You don’t need outer orgasm. That is why Brahmacharya happens. But till the inner orgasm happens, happens, you can be never become a Brahmachari. You will be only suppressing, celibate, dead, poor fellows.

And I just, I think according to Me, the worst Jiva’s on the planet earth is, people who have become Swami’s and not become enlightened, they are the worst Jiva’s; they are the worst Jiva’s. Totally in depression and not achieved enlightenment. That is the worst Jiva’s. Unless the inner orgasm happens, the outer orgasms can never, you can never stop aspiring or having desire for the outer orgasm; celibacy, Brahmacharya can never happen. Even if you suppress, it can be only celibacy, never the Brahmacharya. Hm.

Participant: How can you become a Swami without being Enlightened?

SPH: That’s why. You can’t become Swami, Don’t become Swami. Better don’t.

Participant: You said there are Swami.

SPH: Ah. ah yes, yes. In the east, there are, uh, just like a monks. They take up this life and they don’t get enlightened. There are people like that. There are millions of people like that. Only few handful of Swamis get enlightened.

Participant: Most of them is escapism

SPH: Escapism. My vision for new humanity, new kind of beings, may be it will materialize in the Ananda Puri project. The physical and all the naturopathy and everything I am trying to build. And each one will help each other. It will be like a helping each other. I am trying to create a humanity, which will live with total love and understanding; love, joy and understanding. Because that is the main thing which is lacking in the society, which is lacking in the society; otherwise you will become a such big force. You will become such big power. And, and the moment it is successful here, every city people will start.

Actually you can clear ourself, wecan... what to say, transform our life just when we live in the group which believes in one ideology. Even you unconsciously you will start imbibing all those qualities. Even unconsciously... you see, inside the Ashram when you come, you don’t fight and aaa search for your place as you do in the outside. In the house if you go to some marriage, if you are, you are, if you are late for food, what you do? First you go and catch your seat and put your kerchief. But here nobody does it; because everybody knows, everybody knows this is the culture here. So the very culture can bring and teach lots of things to you. You know the food will, food will be available for everyone. You know every, everyone will be given everything. And second thing, nobody runs. So naturally you learn the culture. So there are thousands of things which can be learnt with a living and loving group.