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7 January 2005

“Swamiji: Some, there are some thoughts in the low frequency you will…”

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Swamiji: Some, there are some thoughts in the low frequency you will not be able to understand. Only when it’s in high frequency you will be able to understand. If you can catch the thoughts in low frequency never disease will happen to you. Because in that level itself you will stop it, h’m.

Participant: at that level what will stopping?

Swamiji: You stop the thoughts. So never any disease will happen to your being.

Participant: Many thoughts we just do not even know what is the connection, why this come…

Swamiji: Actually no thoughts that is I was telling you; clearly I told you illogically, irrationally and 😊

Participants: idiotically.

Swamiji: 😊😊 Your movements between the past and the future which is illogical, irrational and idiotical is what we call thoughts. 😊

Participant: Swamiji, we talked about the athletes like golfers and the zone and they are witnessing. It’s like they are watching the game, so is that the same when…..

Swamiji: Ah’ yes when you witness again you drop, the TPS drops.

Swamiji: Even the runners when they witness they are running they penetrate the time shaft.

Participant: which means they are given extra energy!

Participant: Swamiji is there a natural variation in TPS between person to person.

Swamiji: no, no, no mental setup to mental setup, by nature you don’t have TPS at all. By nature you have zero TPS. Only by creation you have all these TPS. It’s you who creates the TPS.

Participant: We are responsible.

Swamiji: h’m yes, yes simply you are responsible. Nobody else comes inside...ah inside you and thinks.😊 Surely only you are thinking, somebody else is thinking inside you then you are in big trouble.😊 Then immediately you need an asylum.😊 Only you are thinking. Anybody else can think? No, it is you who think, be very clear about it, hm.

Participant: I feel like I have started enjoying the silence.

Swamiji: That’s wonderful. Then again witness the thought that you are enjoying the silence.

Participant: unclear?

Swamiji: Ah ...😊😊 Just witness the thought you are enjoying the silence.

Participants: (interruption)

Swamiji: Ah in these four days you are not supposed to speak. These four days you not even supposed to bother think what he thinks? 😊 Don’t even bother what he thinks. No question of suggestions. No suggestion box. We will have something called no suggestion box... You see whatever happens, let it happen. For some people they will simply start talking bla, bla, bla, bla, bla. Let it happen, don't stop. For some people you will simply see that silence happening. Let it happen, simply neither suppress nor express, just witness. Understand the key neither suppress nor express, just witness.

Participant: Swamiji... when you mention that the athletes they run they witness; is this witnessing at the time of running or before running?

Swamiji: Witnessing at the time of running. You can’t run in the, you can’t witness in the future or past, when you are witness you just fall into present. Just the TPS falls. Just TPS falls.

Participant: Having witness some of these thoughts is there any likelihood of these thoughts again coming back next day when is it or once it is ..

Swamiji: No, no, no it is a … why do you even bother again whether it will come back or not. If you have that too much of past in the future again you start doing the state of botheration. If you have bothering that whether it will come back or not it will come back. Because the very fear will create the incident.

Participant: The key is not to..

Swamiji: Desire and fear will create any incident which you don’t want or want to happen. Desire will create that incident which should not….and if you are desired that incident will not happen. If you are afraid that incident will happen, it has got power. The desire and fear has got the power to let or not to let the incidents happening... Be very clear desire will not let that incident happen; fear will let that incident happen. It’s opposite, paradox; whatever you want inside will happen only opposite outside. Because paradox, life is….

Participant: Swamiji how do we manage it? Because sometimes ...we always ...handle fears when the thought comes!!

Swamiji: Ah when the thought comes just to enjoy it... Relax just be blissful, and trust the existence and relax. If that is the way existence wants wonderful. Relax, you will never enter into failure. But if you carry this fear, suppress it or try to work against it you will simply create situation where you will fall into that same situation, into the same incident... It is a rut actually; a rut, once you are caught chuck, chuck, chuck, chuck, chuck, chuck, things will be over... If you can drop, you will be drop out. Actually you will be dropped from 100 TPS to zero TPS you are a drop out; Enlightened. Enlightened guys are drop outs. We are drop outs from the rat race.

Participant: Swamiji watching the thoughts is same...

Swamiji: Neither rat nor race.

Participant: Watching the thoughts is same as having no attachment to thoughts?

Swamiji: No, don’t bother about attachment. You will have the total attachment or you will not have any attachment. No attachment and total attachment is one and the same. Okay. Nobody can be attached like Me; nobody can be detached like Me. That’s what.

Participant: so true freedom versus responsibility...

Swamiji: Today morning a devotee came with a stomach pain. I just put My hand on that person's head. Nobody can give such a deep loving touch. Nobody can give such a deep loving touch and nobody can relax so clearly. In everything you are half-half, a deep attachment and the deep detachment both are one and the same.

When people come and tell their problems, I have a deep attachment for them that compassion only comes out as a solution or as a healing. It just heals them or that like the energy falls on them, deep attachment, the moment they leave a deep detachment. Otherwise I will become mad. And just sit, actually just sit and listen ten person’s problem, what will happen to you?

Participants: Psychiatric..eleventh problem.

Swamiji: 😊 You will become, eleventh problem.😊 And you will have to go to somebody else to down..unload your things, your stuff.

Participant: Swamiji, when we do healing you said we are... we are not supposed to think whether they are to be healed or not.

Swamiji: Yes, that is what I am telling, when you are totally detached the energy is totally attached. Okay hm.

Participant: inaudible

Swamiji: You can feel that compassion. Ah okay but don’t get attached, let compassion come deeply and feel that whatever is good let it happen. Don’t think it will be healed. He may be even enjoying his disease. Who are you to interfere? And most of the time they enjoy their pains, and they do not want to take the responsibility of walking, so they get knee pain. When you do not want to take the responsibility of life, you get the shoulder pain. There are so many reasons. When you want to relax and get some pain, who is he to heal you! So only give intelligence; give the energy and just feel or just think whatever is good let it happen. Don’t interfere.

Participant: In that case whatever we think it will happens opposite.

Swamiji: Ah, you see don’t start thinking bad, drop thinking totally. Hm that is what is supposed to be done hm.

Participant: Swamiji what is that giving intelligence? because..

Swamiji: And that energy, giving energy is giving intelligence. Nothing else. When you give energy to the person you give intelligence to that part. Actually when you give energy to the knee you just give intelligence to knee and tell the knee, ‘Do what do you want. Have this intelligence, if you want to heal, heal; or if you want to enjoy the disease, enjoy.’

Participant: I came across an incident where you gave intelligence to a cow which was stuck.

Swamiji: It came out.

Participant: That still not able to understand!

Swamiji: Relax.

Participant: You made it self-confidence about its own powers.

Swamiji: It’s own powers..

Participant: It is amazing.

Swamiji: That is the way miracles happen. No miracle is miracle. Everything is beautiful incident, when you do not know the cause and effect of relationship you call it as miracle.

Swamiji: Next... No more questions!

Participants: Swamiji, at one point where the thought came and went down and also this energy coming. At one point it scared me. I thought it’s too late to drop this fear and the thoughts are coming down.

Swamiji: What’s happening?

Participant: The big energy is falling..

Swamiji: And again that is also one more thought, witness it. Hm, witness it... All your experiences, so called spiritual experiences are nothing but your thoughts... Okay!

Participant: I thought we were progressing! 😊

Swamiji: 😊😊 When you witness you will have a deeper experience. Witness, witness, witness. You will end up in a place where there is neither experiencer, nor experience or the experienced. That is what is experiencing, what I call Enlightenment... See when you sit in the stage and give the meditation technique I am more Shiva. In depth when you are Shiva only then you can be really... you can enjoy the Krishna. In depth when you are Shiva only then you can really enjoy the Krishna. Otherwise Krishna will be just the very way. See If you are so called Krishna are your enjoyment, will not be a solid thing. How can you have a vacation with such TPS? With zero TPS you are Shiva. Only with Zero TPS you can really flirt. If you want to really flirt, come to zero TPS. All other flirting is just foolishness. You will actually project your understanding about flirting on Me not understanding My understanding about flirting. Understand! You see here I will be telling you ‘liberate yourself’ and there from your side you will be binding Me. Here I will be liberating, you will be binding Me. Here I will tell you once-from one side ‘Be Blissful.’ From your side you will be telling ‘be in suffering along with me.’ I will be telling ‘come up’; you will be telling ‘come down.’😊 I will try to lift you, you will try to pull Me down. This is where it will be happening. Actually finally you can never pull Me down. That’s the problem. You can never pull Me down. But finally what will happen, you will not come up. You see you can’t pull Me down. I am in a very strong place. My chair can’t never be... shaken. 😊

Participants: …..inaudible 😊😊

Swamiji: Alright, I have a deputation: whenever I take class if somebody sleeps volunteers will take the responsibility of …...😊. She said “I know how to exactly point, let Swamiji conduct classes, I will stand next to Him and take care of the guys who are sleeping.” 😊.

Participants: Swamiji Gopal is telling get lost..inaudible...

Swamiji: 😊😊😊 like Jehovah witness, Nithyananda’s witness 😊😊. So understand. Actually when you come to zero TPS only then the really you know how to flirt with Me. Otherwise you do not know how to really flirt with Me. Otherwise all your so called flirting will be just foolishness. Just your understanding, it will never be a real flirting. It will never be an ultimate flirting. Don’t flirt in a very mean way, flirt in a ultimate way. Even in that there should be a standard. 😊 Class 😊. That’s what flirting with Divine. It’s actually a big science flirting with Divine.

Participant: Raasa-leela was happened when Krishan was just five or seven years old.

Swamiji: Ah it’s nothing but, nothing physical ma TPS ma. Zero TPS you see, when Raasa-leela happened before He is seven years; before He is seven years. Raasa-leela has nothing to do with physical. It is totally TPS. H’m Raasa-Leela is actually Energy Darshan where He gave Energy Darshan and awakened the sahasrara chakra h’m. Next.

Participant: Ultimately all are one, is that true Swamiji?

Swamiji: That’s true. Not only ultimately, even ordinary way all are one.

Participant: What do you talking about what you have to do... with the body?

Swamiji: When an Enlightened Master does nothing He does though the body. Nothing is done through His body. That’s what I am telling I'm not talking to you. I am not talking to you. Literally I am not talking to you. I am not talking metaphysically. I am talking literally ‘I am not talking to you.’ You are listening. Just you are listening what you want to listen. You may then ask then how everyone, all of us are listening to the same thing. All of you are not listening to the same thing. Be very clear... Each one of you are listening what do you want to listen. Go out and discuss what do you heard? What Swamiji spoke, then you will have hundred version. If ninety nine people are here you will have hundred version. Because someone will be confused totally and will do two versions. 😊. If you are ninety nine here you will have hundred version. Not even ninety nine you will have hundred version, okay hm. So never think you are hearing what I am speaking. You are hearing what you want to hear. Actually I am not speaking, you just hear what you want to hear.

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