“Today’s sutra - 7th sutra of Brahma Sutras, 1st chapter – 1st section –”
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Today’s sutra - 7th sutra of Brahma Sutras, 1st chapter – 1st section –
Tannishthasya mokshopadesaath!
Swamy Gambhirananda – pradhana is not a meaning of the word self because liberation is promised for one who holds on to that
Swamy Veereshwarananda – that pradhana cannot be designated by the world self is established because liberation is declared to one who is devoted to that sath.
I welcome all devotees, disciples, samajis, satsangis sitting with us in 175 places, 86 cities in 19 countries.
Today we are entering into the next level of argument – vaada prativaadana – khandana mandana – that is the right word. Khandana mandana means breaking the ignorant narrow logic through understanding and adding the amrutha which happens in your brain when you have the complete understanding. When the cognition of the factual reality happens in you, the amrutha naadi – amrutha naadi means ecstasy joy flows like a amrutha in your brain which awakens the non-mechanical parts of your brain. Actually logic functions like a tube in your brain. If it is shrinking to narrow, narrow and narrower understandings it starts experiencing depression. And, if it expands to more broader & broader understanding, the amrutha - nectar flows from the brain - leads to enlightenment!
When I explain certain truths for a moment if you feel wow that is true – your ignorance logic gives way - your logic tube just expands through the amrutha bindu - the nectar drop which flows through that logic tube. If more & more amrutha bindu nectar drop flows through that logic tube, it becomes permanently opened & established in enlightenment. All your cognition happens on factual reality based on existence. That is what I call enlightening Nithyananda effect – eNeffect! If you are experiencing levitation, kundalini awakening - Yoga sutras is great for you. For some reason if the physical levitation is not happening, don’t worry at all. Brahmasutras is for you. Because Brahmasutras is for all people because all people are with logic. All human beings are logic based. Rarely few are heart or being centered. Basically by nature man is logic centered. Because bringing up makes you logic centered Then Brahmasutras is for people who are logic centered. Then Brahmasutras is for the mass. But unfortunately this was never told to you. Only thing you need to spend little time to grasp this. I don’t know why unfortunately the intellectual community did not recognize the greatness of the Brahmasutras internationally. Because of the religious connotation given to it and 1000s & 1000s of interpretations completely contradicting to each other. A logical mind wants a clear set of irrefutably non-misrepresentable aphorisms, formulas. But the greatness of Brahmasutras is anybody can interpret and misinterpret as they want ☺
If the logic is pure diamond, I can say Brahmasutras is jewel made out of pure diamond stone without adding any metal. It is not jewel studded with diamond stones, it is made out of diamond stone. Huge diamond stone just it has been drilled carved into a stone. That is the description of Brahmasutras!
(Gives a long pause) I am just downloading the sutra ☺ because this sutra is established on 12 logics! I am just releasing one by one each logic on which this sutra is built. Let me read out this sutra to you. Now I am going to show you how this one sutra needs to be understood in 12 logical way
Tannishthasya mokshopadesaath!
pradhana is not a meaning of the word self because liberation is promised for the one who holds on to that! Any of you understood?
See in the earlier sutras there was an argument presented - Source – pradhana, origin is not matter. But the opponents in that vaada prativaada one group says why it should not be matter? Why pradhana is not self? Because pradhana itself does not get liberated - it is eternally liberated. Liberation is for the self – I can say identity which is trying to hang on to the pradhana. Understand this whole thing is psycho drama. If you feel you are poor you will feel the rich man is greater than you. If you feel you are powerless you will feel the powerful man is greater than you. So when you become rich, who is liberated from poverty? The person who feels himself as poor that identity is liberated from poverty. When you become powerful, that identity which feels you are powerless is liberated from powerlessness. If you feel you are ignorant, during enlightenment the identity which feels it is ignorant is liberated from ignorance.
But the pradhana itself is neither bound nor liberated. That is why when you are enlightened, you never feel something new has happened in you. That is why when I became enlightened I did not feel something new has happened in me. I will tell you exactly how it is – when you become 25, suddenly one day if you see all your childhood toys you think – oh God! Once upon a time all these toys meant a lot for me. why did that happen? No you don’t think that way. Because now, you are neither bound or liberated by them. In your young age, if you have some mud toys, you are ready to do anything for those toys, ready even to kick your mother. But at the age of 25 will you even bother about it?
Do you feel at age of 25 you are liberated by the toys? do you say – no, I don’t want to get caught with you at all, please liberate me, keep toys away – do you say all this? NO. Even if the toy becomes alive and says oh my son, don’t worry I will give you liberation, you are liberated from me. you will say – get lost, who cares for the liberation you give! Will you feel liberated by the toys? No. You are beyond the liberation that the toys can give you.
That is what exactly I felt. At the age of 22 in 2000, suddenly I felt even if the maya ignorance appears in front of me and says – Oh my son! I liberate you. I felt who cares, get lost. I felt the ignorance and the bondage which can be added by the illusion and delusion has not only disappeared from my inner space, it just does not make any sense any more. It does not make any sense anymore! Suddenly you feel you have grown out of it! I wanted to let you know when you grow out of something you will not have hatred. Do you hate those toys? How dare these toys have bound me once upon a time, I will break all of them. No – unless you are psychologically sick. You won’t break them and you won’t make them. Just you are beyond the liberation granted by the toys. Now they cannot even tell I liberate you. NO. It is like Ramakrishna beautiful story - In the puffed rice festival in Bengal, where devotees buy puffed rice and offer puffed rice to deity, so one guy who was selling the puffed rice, will not offer a handful of puffed rice to the deity even if the deity is taken in procession in front of his shop. But one day there was a heavy breeze and all the puffed rice started flying in the air. He suddenly with great devotion he said – narayana arpana mastu. He knows he cannot hold it anymore. So he is offering it to Narayana. Narayana will be standing and laughing somewhere! Same way you will laugh when toys want to liberate you. same way, when enlightenment happens, liberation offered by toys will no more be useful for you!! You will not bother if maya grants you liberty. That is when you become ‘mayateeta.’ That is one of my favourite names. I used 54 names during my wandering. The name Nithyananda is my 54th name! It is the rule of wandering not to use the same name when you go to a new place because in one place when you get a good name, devotees there should not take your name and tell the other place people to take care of you. You should go with no name and inspire people with the radiance of your very presence and body language.
I have seen in many villages. In Tamil Nadu I have seen all these village fellows will be playing cards. Whoever loses, will keep a stone on their head. But one good thing in North Bharat, I have always seen people talking about scriptures. So usually when I go to a new place, I will find out a solitary place or tree and will just sit. 1st day they see me and walk away. 2nd day they see me in the same posture, same position and are surprised – then by 2nd day evening they will just gesture if I ate because they don’t know if I know their language. Then 3rd day morning they slowly get food. Usually there is a tradition that Sadhus do not eat cooked food. They will eat only uncooked food. So they will give me uncooked food. Then by 3rd day it will be a feast. If I stay a week, I will see at least 20 people will walk at least 4 hours to see me off. That is the usual drama. Even in the US this is the usual drama. If I go to any new place nobody will be there in the airport. After a couple of satsangs and one ASP, when I am leaving, there will be at least 40 people will come to the airport to see me off with tears in their eyes! This is the usual drama.
Mayateeta means even if maya appears in front of you and says I liberate you, you will say – who are you? relax, go and take care of your job ☺ So enlightenment is not for your original existence. It is for the identity in you which feels it is bound! See a man who is working for wealth, feeling consciously poverty as the 1st important problem in his life, does not feel the necessity for enlightenment. He does not suffer so much with his ignorance. Because he is suffering with his poverty, his whole inner space is occupied by the poverty. So for him rich man is the liberated one, he is the god. That is why he worships rich man, runs behind rich man, tries to become like him. But always underground there is a strong jealous and vengeance towards the rich man. Same way intelligent man. When an ignorant man will look at intelligent man, he worships him, he looks at him, runs towards him. literally ready to do anything to become intelligent. Same way powerless man. He runs behind powerful people and can do anything – he runs behind them. It is very important truth to know what all the parts of you - feels lacking something – does the part of you feels poverty, does some part of you feels powerless, does some part of you feel ignorant, does some part of you feel the emptiness of not having enlightenment - Dig out. Actually the liberation means all these things not only do not touch you, even the liberation from all these things does not matter anymore for you!
Ashtaavakra very beautifully says – who is bound? Who is liberated? There is a beautiful Zen koan – one guy goes to master and says when can I become enlightened? Zen masters are known for strong sudden reactions. He just slaps him! That fellow is completely shaken. It is like you go to a master and say when can I get enlightened? And he just slaps you!! you cannot expect such a thing from an enlightened being. Especially Zen people are very sweet. Zen people are very juicy people. Tibetan Buddhism is more systematic. But Zen people are juicy people, lot of joyful people. Zen people have the kind of a “aah” attitude! Even in BrahmaSutras is all like cooky cutting – straight, straight. But Zen people have that go lucky attitude as an undercurrent. See if observe deeply anything I do, you will see the Bharatn temple life style. Morning first thing when I get up is go and fall at the feet of Anandeshwara. last thing I do is also go to temple. Anything I do if you see, somehow I will not compromise on that one thing – Temple. Whether I write books, build buildings, even the painting I try to paint, the underlying tone of temple will be there. Same way in Zen, whether their gardens or their books or their techniques – in anything you will find underlying tone of “aah” attitude! That is a great thing. So this disciple is shaken – What is this! And when they slap the Zen masters really slap! And fortunately they are in a country where you cannot sue them. And they are really strong. When you have that “aah” attitude in your mood or life style you will never have osteoporosis or arthritis. Your bones are very strong. That attitude gives a kind of strength. Nothing touches you. That is why Zen and martial arts are connected so much. Their core never gets affected by any depression. That core is established on the ‘aah’ attitude. The disciple is shaken after being slapped! He stares - looks into the eyes of the master. You cannot even ask why did you slap me? With Zen masters that is another big problem. You cannot question them. He will beat once more and that too with stick. So he just stared and in his eyes the question is carried why did you beat me, can you explain in few words so that I can understand and develop myself. The master says if horse comes and says how can I become horse, what to do? I have to beat it to tell it that it is already a horse! You cannot even ask cannot you beat me in a little loving way. You can ask all that with Gurus like me who are silent and little polite. Not with Zen masters. Same way, If you are asking how to become Buddha, enlightened which you already are, what else to do?
The materialistic people give liberation to people who feel poverty in their consciousness. Powerful people give liberation to people who feel powerlessness in their consciousness. So each darshana – each way of life - philosophy, each philosia liberates certain group of people. Brahmasutra takes you beyond all those liberations! Understand, Brahma Sutra takes you beyond all those liberations!
Tannishthasya mokshopadesaath!
The origin is not your identity. Origin is always liberated. Only your identity needs liberation now! How identity can be liberated? Now I will give you 12 logical trend. You need to do that homeless work. Homework means work you do sitting in the home. Homeless work means work you are supposed to do not going to the home ☺ by not going to the home or not being in the home. I am happy I received so many emails, many countries and satsang centres have started their own debates – eNdebates. Each one of them had by analyzing and vaada prativaada of yesterday’s subject. Yesterday I said one subject – Source is intelligent, source is consciousness not dead matter or dead law, not arithmetic logic calculation.
They wrote to me beautiful strong clicks each one of them had by analyzing yesterday’s subject which was source is intelligence, consciousness, not dead arithmetical rhythmic calculation of dead law!
Very beautifully Ramana Maharshi sings in a Tamil song which translates to – the actions give results because the ultimate source orders it. The actions by itself cannot bring result because it is not independent intelligence. It is like even if you sign a cheque to receive your own money from the bank, the manager who is the decision making authority has to pass it. Same way even if you send the karma cheque the decision making authority must pass it. Usually he passes it. That does not mean each time it happens. Usual does not mean eternal. Usually when you send cheque does not become eternally you get money when you send cheque. The cheque can be bounced or the bank can get closed. Of course the cosmic bank is eternal and cannot be closed. But the cheque can bounce.
So the usual being considered as eternal is ignorance. Because in your life your identity acts as a master usually, you think the identity can be master eternally. That is the mistake! The today’s logic trend is supposed to be this only - Who is getting liberated? Who is bound? What all ignorance and bondage you feel, how the liberation is felt. How the ignorance and bondage feels liberation and enlightenment. Who feels ignorance? who feels enlightened? Who feels bound? who feels liberated? It is the dust which is in one corner of your body which feels bondage and that feels liberation. But you are neither feeling bondage nor feeling liberation. Somebody goes and asks a Zen master – how can I be liberated? Master looks in and says – who has bound you? It is the psycho drama which you create is bondage. I tell you, when suffering starts in you, when the feeling of bondage starts in you, when the feeling of ignorance starts in you, if you can just destroy it and say – aah! what is going on? what is this? Is this true? and get out of it, you don’t need methods and techniques and methodology for liberation & enlightenment. Now drill – who is feeling bound? What is bondage? Define bondage as per your understanding, define liberation as per your understanding, analyze this liberation and bondage in all dimensions like wealth line, power line, in the line of relationships, not having love, any line you feel deficiency, you feel bound, define that bondage and liberation.
So today’s vaada prativaada should be in this line. Please understand, the truth is neither you are bound nor liberated. One part of the dust settled on you feels bound and that feels liberated. When you don’t even care about the liberation given by the dust to you, you are liberated! That is what exactly happened in me. Don’t think somebody appeared at the age of 22 in 2000 and said – Oh son! You are liberated from now. NO. I felt so high and above, that even if the whole universe gathered together to bind me, it cannot bind me. Even if the whole universe came together to liberate me, it cannot liberate me. Neither the bondage or maya makes any sense to me. Kind of a - I lost even the idea it has some existence! I cannot even say disrespect – respect & disrespect both disappeared! Oh you are maya! What do you do? Your profession? Please have food in the kitchen and go, have darshan in the temple! No my son I came to liberate you. please go to the temple and give it to Anandeshwara! For example if somebody comes here in this hall and says – Oh Nithyananda! I came to liberate you. forget about what I will do. You know what you will do ☺ Same way only suddenly one day I saw that I have become so distanced! It is like when you are in the flight two hands are fighting in the ground – one says I will bind this fellow, other says I will liberate this fellow. What you will do about both the hands? Same way only the bondage and ignorance – bondage & ignornace both do not have any meaning for pradhana. I tell you parivraajaka helps you to understand this. Because when you do parivraajaka – different different situations and people and everything – but you should do with high awareness, not with a beggar consciousness. I have seen many sadhus who go on parivraajaka and by the end of few years, they will have 20 lakh bank balance! No. I have seen sadhus who know where what food is given. I have seen sadhus discussing where to go for Bhandaara – for the next meal. I have seen Anna Daataas getting beaten by Sadhus for not giving proper food when they beg! I am not saying this kind of parivraajaka. Parivraajaka with awareness kind of brings a very powerful transformation where the utility of the concept of bondage and liberation is no more useful for you. Any utility you get by the concept of bondage or liberation is no more useful for you! because all bondage has a utility for you.
Feeling poverty has a utility for you to become rich – that needs to constantly poke at you only then you become rich - you will plan, plan & plan and become rich and get into bigger mess. Feeling powerless has a utility value for you so that you will plan to become powerful. Feeling of ignorant has a utility value for you so that you will plan to work for enlightenment.
Feeling of ignorance and enlightenment should lose its utility value for you! That is what happened in me. I suddenly felt the utility value of me being enlightened or feeling ignorant is no more useful for me. Sometime you will want to show enlightenment to inspire people. You will want to have the byproducts of enlightenment. That does not work. Byproducts of enlightenment can never be induced or infused. It can only happen by enthused - By your presence some enthusiasm will happen in that the byproducts of enlightenment can happen. It can never be induced, infused and intenduced. It can only be enthused. I am coining a new word “enthused” – means by your presence if you can create an enthusiasm in people and something happens, it is a byproduct which does not bind you. See this whole sangha I built by the enthusiasm as a byproduct of my enlightenment. That is why I am not bound by it. it is there or not, I am not bothered. So many people are enjoying if it is there. That is all! So today vaada prativaada should be – who is bound? Who is liberated? Where is bondage and where is liberation?
Shankara bhaashya very beautifully describes – the person who is feeling bound can never be liberated. The only way is that the Identity which feels bound should be destroyed or over grown. It should disappear. Disappearance of the part of the identity which is feeling bound is liberation! The disappearance of the part of you which feels poverty is richness. Disappearance of part of you which feels powerless is power. Disappearance of the part which feels you are ignorant is enlightenment. Otherwise there is no powerfulness, richness, enlightenment for your pradhana – for you as you are! I can see very clearly, Baadaraayana - Bhagawan Veda Vyasa is drilling all your brains. Because for the past one hour I have not been talking anything other than this one statement. I have not made a second statement. If you watch this discourse again in this Youtube you will understand, I have not made a second statement. If you think I made a second statement, you are in ignorance! I am going on drilling the same thing in different different angle. I am drilling based on different darshanas. See The poorva mimamsa darshana is all based on power – I am powerless, let me do all the rituals and become powerful. The uttara mimamsa darshana is all about enlightenment – I am ignorant, I need to practice some things and get knowledge and enlightened. Nyaaya and visechika is all about intelligence – I am not able to influence others with intelligence and logic. I need to influence others, so catch methods to influence others and become intelligent man. Sankhya and yoga is all about the different mystical powers which you feel you don’t have which can be grabbed and grasped by the samyama. So through different different darshana I am making you understand the bondage and liberation. Ultimately If you ask me as per my darshana, as per my experience, I am telling you – suddenly at one time in my life I realized any bondage can be created by this universe and any liberation that can be granted by this universe, both have become useless in my life, useless for me, I am not interested in it. I call this is what as moksha - ultimate - Nithyananda state!
Catch the satya – the sacred secret in this aphorism of existence is who feels bound? Who feels liberated? Look into you what part of you feels bound in what all ways and which parts of you has felt bondage in which fields and when you felt liberated in those fields, how you feel bound now, how you feel liberation should be. Dig out. Let the vaada prativaada start and you will have the prasaada! Blessings!
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