The Source: Matter or Consciousness?
[00:00:15] sadāśiva samārambhām śaṅkarācārya madhyamām | asmat āchārya paryantām vande guru paramparām ||
[00:00:38] I welcome you all with my love and respects. I welcome all the devotees, disciples, who are sitting with us at this moment around the world, in 338 places, in 127 cities in 22 countries. Apart from that, there are 16 cities around the world sitting with us in two-way connection - video conferencing: Los Angeles, San Jose, Seattle, Ohio, Phoenix, Malaysia, Guadeloupe, Singapore, Dubai, UAE, Hyderabad, Golden Enclave, Anna Nagar, Adyar Satsang Centre, Tharamangalam, Morocco, Brazil. I welcome all of you for this Brahma Sutra satsang. I welcome all of you for this great happening - Brahma Sutras.
[00:02:24] Today’s Sutra: 5th Sutra; in the 1st chapter, 5th Sutra.
ईक्षतेर्न, अशब्दम् ॥ ५ ॥ īkṣaterna aśabdam
As I said, just 2 words, not more than 2 words. Just 2 words and now we will have to break our head. 😄Just these 2 words. Actually when you are in such a deep Samadhi, you utter as minimum as possible. Sometime you can’t even utter. Yesterday, after the Brahma Sutras, I was just sitting in Samadhi. All the Ashramites were around Me. One of our devotee had a fits in the hall. I said, “I’ll take care,” and I told them to bring her. Then I said, “I’ll take care, don’t worry. Give the medical care.” Only later on, usually I am a person who will run. I’ll get up and run. I did not run. The reason was I was not actually able to move the body; I was in a very strong Samadhi; especially after the strong Brahma Sutras. But suddenly, late in the night I remembered, I didnot even tell them that why I did not come out; why I did not run towards them.
[00:04:24] Later on I thought… of course they are devotees, they won’t mistake. I did not even, I only used the word, “I’ll take care, don’t worry. Take them to medical care.” Did not even use, I should have told at least why I did not come out, why I did not get up from the seat and go there. Later on I remembered, “Why I did not tell? Usually I am a person, I will tell.” Sometime the deep Samadhi, the words become so minimal, it doesn’t come out when it is not required. Actually my deep trust ‘they are devotees, they will not mistake even if I don’t come from the, come down and come there. They trust My word.’ That trust, that My trust that they trust Me, took care that extra words did not even come. But if I did not have that trust, “Oh, they are devot... they may mistake that why I did not even come out to heal,” then immediately maybe I would have told, I would have given the reason, or even if the body is in Samadhi, I would have ran maybe to physically touch, to give them the confident that I am really healing them, healing that person. So when there is a deep trust, words do not come out.
2 word! Just 2 word.
ईक्षतेर्न, अशब्दम् ॥ ५ ॥ īkṣaterna aśabdam
ईक्षतेर्न, अशब्दम् ॥ ५ ॥ īkṣaterna aśabdam
[00:06:20] But one of the world’s biggest problem is analysed just in this Sutra. Usually when I am going to speak on some Sutras, I will see those great Masters’ energy landing, and preparing the disciples to receive the expression. And they themself expressing themself through My tongue, through My being, through My presence and all that. Now last 2-3 days, I am seeing all the big big philosophers are landing here. See, some enlightened philosophers are landing just to enjoy the Brahma Sutra happening; some unenlightened philosophers but evolved beings - there are some Ganas, Munis - evolved philosophers, but did not become enlightened - those guys are coming and sitting here to catch the glimpse and get the click so that they can become enlightened.
[00:07:32] Understand, whenever you get one valid click, one big engram is relieved. You are free from one big engram. So last few days I am seeing all kinds of philosophers are moving around. Some enlightened philosophers, some unenlightened - Nyaya, Vaisheshika, Purva Mimamsa, Uttara Mimamsa; all philosophers. The whole ashram is now filled with the philosophers energy for this great happening of Brahma Sutras.
[00:08:35] Bhaktas are very auspicious people, devotees are very auspicious, whether they are enlightened or unenlightened.
One young lady of little loose character goes to Vivekananda. Vivekananda with such a deep love and care receives her and initiates her into Sannyas. Not only he initiates her, he completely gives her the promise that “I’ll liberate you.” And as usual this orthodox Vedantic Sannyasis sitting around him, looking at him with lot of suspicious eyes and said, “What kind of a Sadhu you are? Not only you accepted her as a disciple, initiating her into Sannyas and promising that you will liberate her. What do you mean?” Then he gives his own explanation and finally he says, “Even all the things what you guys say are accepted and true, who else can save these people except me? If I say no, who is going to say yes for them?”
Alright. Okay. Let’s enter into the Sutras.
ईक्षतेर्न, अशब्दम् ॥ ५ ॥ īkṣaterna aśabdam
ईक्षतेर्न, अशब्दम् ॥ ५ ॥ īkṣaterna aśabdam
Swami Gambhirananda’s translation goes as: the Pradhāna of the Sankhyas is not the cause of the Universe, because it is not mentioned in the Upanishads, which fact is clear from the fact of seeing. So Swami Vireswarananda translates as: on account of thinking, being attributed to the first cause by scriptures of Pradhāna, is not the first cause referred to by them; it Pradhāna is based on the scriptures. God!
[00:10:58] I don’t know how many of you understood. It’s one of the important analysis. One of the great thing in the Brahma Sutras is, it is analysing the greatest problems like, what is the distance between sun and the moon, moon and the earth, and earth and the sun? All these kind of high level things are discussed in the same equal importance is given to the day to day problem like - ‘why the rice price is rising’. Please understand, Brahma Sutras is a very paradoxical book where in same Sutra that why the distance between sun and the moon is this much, and why the rice price is rising - both are discussed. An extraordinary philosophical discussion which is directly affecting the way you think about you and the life and your very existence.
[00:12:37] Here the important problem which is being discussed is, whether origin is Consciousness or matter? Sankhyas. I can say, first human beings who started thinking, are Sankhyas. First man who started thinking is Kapila, who is the Master of Sankhya philosophy. I want all of you to know. We, the Nithyananda Sampradaya, originally belong to Kapila’s Sampradaya, Nirvani Akhada. We are senior than Vedic tradition. Understand, the Vedanta Sampradaya is Uttara Mimamsa. These Brahma Sutras are called Uttara Mimamsa Sutras. Before this, there is a Purva Mimamsa. Sankhya is more earlier philosophical system. I can say philosophy is not right word. Philosia. Because, word “Darshana” cannot be translated into philosophy. It can only translated to Philosia. Darshana means what is seen. In your inner awakening, what you experienced becomes Darshana. So when each Master has become enlightened, what He experienced, He pens it down, transmits as a Darshana.
[00:14:48] So the first Darshana is Sankhya - senior most Darshana, the oldest Darshana, oldest thinking system, oldest cognition system, where the understanding about life, death, beyond life, after life or personal existence, Jiva means - individual Self, Ishvara - the ultimate Self - God, Jagat - the world. In Jagat - 2 part - nature and manmade - society. All these understandings and better way to relate with all these and coexist in a very friendly way - this is the purpose of all Darshanas. All Darshanas are created to know the deeper truths about these major subjects, with this understanding - flow with the life.
First Darshana is Sankhya. Unfortunately, followers of Sankhya philosophy has started moving out of Kapila. Whenever the followers move out of the founder, again the founder happens in another one form… followers go and prosecute the founder who is in another form.
[00:16:44] I am really working very sincerely that should not happen to My commune and the flowers. Of course one fortunate thing is whatever I am talking is getting video recorded. So the losing the spirit can never happen. And not only that because I am going to be sitting in the body for a long time, the reproduction of the completely spiritually matured people is possible
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- Date
- 7 March 2011
- Language
- English
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- Published
- 11 October 2020
- Duration
- 18 min
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- Yes — 3 marks
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- 1,475 words · 8 min read
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