“Let’s start the Satsang now.”
Prayer. I welcome all the devotees, disciples, samajis, satsangis sitting with us around the world at this moment in 315 places through eNtv, 11 places 2 way Nayana Deeksha, in 130 cities, in 16 countries!
Cities sitting with us in 2 way connection Nayana Deeksha – Malaysia, Seattle Chidambaram, Phoenix Kanchipuram, Los Angeles Arunachala, San Jose Madhurai, Guadeloupe, Ohio Prayag, Toronto Kailash, Singapore, Bangalore North and Australia. Blessings to all of you! In Malaysia we will create a Palani. So from now we will have Malaysia as Palani and in Guadeloupe we will create a Kanya Kumari ☺ Kanya kumari is the place the Devi in the form of a young girl meditating waiting for Mahadeva. In a fully Enlightened form she is standing in Samadhi. So we will create Kanya Kumari in Guadeloupe. I will come up with something in Singapore. We will work on it. So almost all major centers have been given a title and project. ☺
Let’s start the Satsang now. Something is materialized. See morning in the Pada Puja I was attending something else and it was going on in the side ☺ Now it has become like a automated system. God! All that came in the morning (all the things materialized since morning are displayed on screen)
I wanted to announce to tell all of you we had done some researches in controlled conditions scientific researches and study done on materialization yesterday which was a grand success! ☺ Soon the scientists will give, the researchers will give the whole presentation to the public before that I am not going to announce now who did, where we did and what we did everything. But in a fool proof way with a thorough scientific studies it has been studied and proved there is no fraudulence, magic involved. It is not kept inside the mouth or stomach and brought out. It just happens spontaneously. The energy appearing as matter is already recorded. It is clearly recorded. So now no brainless buffalo, no dumb donkey no media mafia can say there is some fraudulence or there is some magic involved in any of this! Once the scientists announce their study reports, you see the preliminary report they gave verbally. But they are preparing a detailed report in writing. When that comes it will brought to the world. Till then all of you wait. Don’t try to do the spying work. Where the research happened? Who did it? What happened? Let the scientists come up and give the presentation. There will be a huge and beautiful presentation given to all of you because the whole thing is video recorded, fluoroscopy recorded, QEG recorded. Scientists and doctors are really surprised really, taken aback! You see I can use any word surprised and anyhow we will do some more work, some more research in this line. First time the extraordinary powers of Yogic tradition is scientifically recorded under the controlled conditions. Of course thousands of masters have done this job of expressing this powers but we can have the pride of first time recording it in controlled conditions scientifically controlled conditions.
Let me enter into the Satsang. Let me enter into the next verse. 35th verse –
Arjuna’s words is the place I ended yesterday. Now I will enter into the 1st chapter verse 36 –
“nihatya dhartarastran nah ka pritih syaj janardana papam evasrayed asman hatvaitan atatayinah”
The translation says “What pleasure will we get by destroying the sons of Dritarashtra Janardhana! Only sin will overcome us if we slay these wrong doers”
I am seeing the black box of Arjuna. Layer by layer how the engrams are there in Arjuna and how he is suffering by those engrams. Please understand when I read this Arjuna Vishada Yoga I am 100% sure Bhagavad Gita is the book for enlightenment because whatever he is talking the Arjuna’s problem, each verse is one strong engram. Arjuna is caught with so many of his engrams, Krishna is here to destroy those engrams and liberate him and make him express the life in a liberated way. See I am seeing very clearly. First he says – svajanam, svajanam, svajanam, my people, my people, my people, I almost see these old widows sitting in village and crying oh my son, my daughter, my father in same mood Arjuna is crying svajanam, svajanam. It is the parental conditioning, the 1st layer engram. Then he comes all the teachings he learnt from the Drona the conditioning of the Acharya means ordinary dos & don’ts. Please understand sometime ordinary dos and don’ts create so much of conditioning.
Just the other day we were doing some analysis why other masters have not produced so much of spiritual material whether in is the form of discourses or books. Discourses are the basis. Why? Even Osho did only 8000 hours which I already crossed. No really. See recorded 6,400 hours, unrecorded without video recording just like a notes what people have taken that is another on 1500 hours. That’s all! In my case video recording itself already we have crossed 8000! So we were wondering why it did not happen. Then we realized some points. See for you to talk continuously spiritual material you need people to be sitting and listening. The structure of the other masters and organizations was such only during the festivals, functions, public programs people gather to listen to them and they deliver spiritual message. Other days only there Ashramites and small group and only administrative things - not spiritual material which can be shared with the world. But here somehow I have become immune to the intelligence level of people who are sitting in front of me. Whether they listen to me or not, I go on talking some spiritual subject. Whether they listen or understand or sleep or sit whatever act may happen I don’t look in the front side. I just sit and get into some mood and ecstasy, go on talking what I want to talk ☺ That is why I could produce so many hours of such a strong spiritual material in such a short time. See almost every day 3 hours of spiritual material which can be relayed to the whole world for the public I am creating. And another 8-9 hours of the material for the intimate discussion classes - the class room spiritual material. You see class room spiritual material is the customized direct solution for the individual or the consolation or the healing or the blessing or the boon. Those materials can’t be relayed to public. It is for the individual. That way around 8 hours material happens every day. The public which can be presented, relayed through the media, channels, TV and this way I am creating at least 3 hours. We were wondering why other masters did not do this job? Then I realized see to produce a solid spiritual material, intelligent Guru is not enough, intelligent disciples are necessary. Osho always says I can talk only if there are intelligent questions and the questioner with people with quest. Somehow I am liberated from it. Somehow I am liberated from it! ☺ I can sit and talk for the camera for hours and for years! ☺
Let me enter into the subject. When you see the layer by layer conditioning of Arjuna coming out in this 1st chapter, I can tell you very clearly this book is book for enlightenment. It is not written just to make Arjuna fight or just for Krishna to fulfill his goal of removing the load on the planet earth bhoo baara. No. It is a straight technique, process, method for enlightenment!
Something will be materialized which Krishna was wearing when he delivered Bhagavad Gita. We’ll see! We will prove through the carbon study it is at least 6,000 years old! You will see now ☺
Understand step by step the conditioning of Arjuna. 1st he expresses Swajanam, swajanam, swajanam. Like echo effect we should give swajanam, swajanam, swajanam – how in the movies they show brother, sister, brother sister. At least come near and hug. They won’t even do that. They will not even more one step forward. The will only be saying from distance anna - tambi, amma – magane – Oh my son! My son or bison! ☺ The sentiments are only 2 types in the world. One is sacred sentiments, another one is scared sentiments. When you loosen the word sacred and make little confusion it becomes scared ☺ there are only 2 sentiments one sacred another one loose! No still I am not able to understand how it will feel? This ann-tambi. No I am really wondering. See I also took birth with a younger brother, elder brother, I also had mother, father regular family bringing up. But still I am not able to understand. I really spoke at least 2-3 times to my brothers and mother – do you guys remember any incident, any way you guys relating with me like a brother or son - neither I am able to remember something nor they are able to remember something. Anyhow. I feel sometime I should not talk about things which I don’t know!
First layer of conditioning Svajanam and the most funny thing is that conditioning. You see all these relatives, relationships everything is created for you to be happy. But see the funny thing those people are actually ready to kill him. Even then the conditioning becomes so strong. It is ready to go against the purpose for which it is created. The meaning of the word corruption is when it goes against the purpose for which it is created, it is called corruption. Food - it is created for bringing health and energy. When it goes against the purpose - you dump so much inside neither it brings energy nor it gives health. After finishing you feel dull and you feel like sleepy. Then corruption in the food is happening in your life. Please understand don’t think food poison happens in your life only if you vomit and show the symptoms of poisoning. If you are eating and not becoming energetic and healthy then corruption in the food has started.
In everything. Government is created to protect people and the same fellows are swindling the people means corruption. This sangha is created to protect the Vedic Tradition. If at some time it brings disgrace then the corruption has entered. I will not allow that to happen at least till I am in the body. But I am defining these are the ways. Corruption. There are some spiritual organizations, there may not be economical corruption directly. But when the purpose is not served when it goes against the purpose, then you can call it as a corrupt organization.
Police is supposed to protect the citizens and they go and file false cases and false charge sheet, then corruption. They may- may not have taken money from anybody directly or indirectly. We may - may not have evidences. That is different. That and all we’ll see in the court. But the moment you are going against the purpose for which it is established it is corruption. See her Arjuna is started having all these relationships in his life to enrich his life. Finally his life itself is going to be taken away but the relationships looks very strong even they are directly against him. See I am not against a very loving, caring relationships. I myself conduct eNrelationships program. I am not telling you to be dry, dull, cruel, lonely, boring depressed guy. No. I am not asking you to be like that. All I am saying is see that corruption does not happen in your conditioning about the sentiments and relationships.
Story for you guys –
There was a local united way office. See local united way is a charitable organization, international charitable organization, they collect donation money from people and do some service. Local united way realized that the organization never received a penny donation from the town’s most successful lawyer. The person in charge of donations, contributions called the lawyer to persuade him to contribute. He calls and says “Sir our research shows you are the most successful lawyer in the whole town and you make almost million dollar a year. Would you not like to give little back to the community doing some social service? Would not you like to give back to the community in some way? The lawyer mulls this over for a moment and replied - Sir did your research show my mother is dying after a long illness and has medical bills that are several times her annual income? Embarrassed that united way representative said - hmm, hmmm I don’t know. The lawyer continues do you know that my brother is disabled, blind and confined to wheel chair? The united way guy began to stammer. Again lawyer started – do you know my sister’s husband died in a traffic accident, leaving her penniless with three children? Now the rep is completely humiliated, beaten. He said - sir I have no idea about all this. Then lawyer comes - understand I don’t give single penny even to all of them why should I give for you? ☺
I am not asking you to be like this lawyer. No. all I am asking is take care the corruption does not enter into your relationships. Means what for it was created. As long as that serves that purpose okay. Not more than that. Here Arjuna is rushing svajanam, svajanam! Svajanam, svajanam! Then next comes the Arjuna’s conditioning all the teachings he learnt why should I steal others property, why should I covert kingdom from this guy, from this Kauravas? Then comes social conditioning, social commitment after all he was a king. So all this Manu neeti the laws of society, conditionings of society this guy who has married from almost every available community, he is talking about mixing of the communities to Krishna! It is not that Arjuna is married only to Kshatriya girls. No. every available community he has one or two. I think in those days itself this idea started. Especially in Tamil Nadu. No in every available community they will have one, one so that the votes come. This is the way they maintain the vote bank. Dirty dogs! And these fellows are taking about me! Aaah! Chai!
“nihatya dhartarastran nah ka pritih syaj janardana papam evasrayed asman hatvaitan atatayinah”
He is in hurry, Arjuna is in hurry to convince Krishna. He does not even having patience to look around, to see. In hurry when you rush what you do you always end up in accident.
Here is a story for you guys –
There was one guy standing at a bar just looking at his glass – staring, staring, staring almost for one hour. Then suddenly truck driver looking like a villain who is a local rowdy rushes straight into the bar, looks at that guy sees him staring at his glass, without saying a word, just he takes the drink from the guy and drinks it all down. That poor man starts crying. The truck driver says come on man don’t worry, don’t worry I am just joking here. I will buy you another drink. I just can’t stand to see a man crying. Don’t worry, don’t worry, I am not that big rowdy or I am not that cruel guy. Don’t worry I will get you a drink. But that guy was crying. No it is not that, this day is worst day of my life. First I fall asleep early morning and I go late to office. My boss outrageous fires me I lost the job. When I leave the building to my car, I found out it was stolen. The police said that they can do nothing. I get a cab and return to my home. There I saw my wife was in bed with the gardener. Then I left the home in a cab. When I got down in the bar I realized I left my wallet and credit cards there and the cab driver just drives away. Finally I came to the bar decided to put an end to my life and here you drank my poison also! ☺
When you are in a hurry you don’t know what you are grabbing. Especially if you decided you are going to be violent, don’t be in a hurry. Arjuna is really in violence now. Please understand he is not in violence when he is waging the war. You will see now how Krishna will remove all his violence and make him wage war. It is very funny paradoxical. Arjuna is in violence now! That is why he is in a hurry to convince Krishna. Let me define violence- violence is something, some act in which you are involved about which your conscience and brain are not convinced and you jump logic. I am defining violence. Anything you do by jumping logic in which your conscience and brain are not in tune fighting with each other is violence. Even if you are doing puja in this way, it is violence. You are not worshipping, you are just pouring water on the Gods. I have seen many priests fighting with the deities in many temples. Fortunately Gods have become stones! No really the way they will pour the water, the way they will tie the cloth. They way they will throw the flower. There is a story one saint threw stone visualizing flower and become enlightened! Here I have seen many priests throwing flower visualizing stone! Even if you do puja worship without your conscience and brain in tune and jumping logic, it is violence!
Arjuna’s problem is getting complicated. He is talking about papa, punya, sin, merit the most funniest thing is he is talking about the community system – Oh what will happen if this war happens? many people may die, and all communities may mix and merge, the purity of the blood will be lost. See who is talking about what. I don’t know how many wives this fellow has in how many communities. Arjuna is a big womanizer. And his brother Bheema did not even marry in the human community. He married to a rakshasi. No he married a rakshasi and had a son also. Married to a demon asura Hidimbi her name is and had a son hidumba – this fellow comes to the war I think 13th or 14th day he comes. Because they get power only in the night time, he went around and finished almost 2 crore in one night! This fellow is the killer of largest number of people in the whole Maha Bharatha war. In one night he finished 2 crore people! Because as per law you can’t fight in the night time. You can’t kill people in the night time. This guy, these fellows are demons, raakshaas – he and his raakshasa sena. No they did not do much - nothing they just walked over that’s all. People were all sleeping and they just walked over. Like how you see in the Hollywood moves some huge animal or machine walking over the New York city and any other city and destroying the whole city. Same way all these fellows just walked over. Gone! Whoever can run in the night and escape some where they saved themselves. All the fellows who were just peacefully sleeping suddenly if you Laati charge in the night time when people are sleeping like this ugly Congress Government did on Ram Dev Baba’s disciples, followers when they were fasting and sleeping peacefully – the Jalianwala Bagh after the Bharatn independence! This home minister Chidambaram will have this stain forever! It is such a ugly thing. Why can’t you do whatever you want to do when they are waking up in the day time? At least they can run away and escape, save themselves. You sent thousands of police men and laati charged people who are just sleeping. Did not even have food. Children, women sleeping in the late night. God! Now I know still demons are living and especially in Bharatn politics.
His own great grandmother is a fisher woman and his Chitappa’s m other the Vidura, the Vidura’s mother is a maid servant. His brother is married to a raakshasi and he is suddenly remembering about community! It is not that Arjuna is having a wrong logic. His logic just got perverted. See it has become a he honestly and strongly believes it! it is a big drama. Arjuna can talk about all these things and especially to whom? To Krishna. It is like people trying to sell laddu to Tirupathi Venkateshwara! People trying to give halwa to Tirunalveli. These are all examples of south Bharatn village. People trying to give Energy Darshan to me! No really Arjuna is almost taking his hand towards Krishna to give Energy Darshan. Krishna wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait, wait! No what is he talking to whom? No I can imagine Arjuna’s one screw going lose. But when I read all these sutras I can’t imagine Arjuna can go loose so much. Arjuna can become such a so many screw loose! Each verse reveals his different layers of conditioning and the engrams which are stopping him without becoming enlightened. See only when you are about to die all the engrams will come up. I think Arjuna is ready to die and all the engrams are coming up. Very difficult. Unless you have a master around you when you are about to die or when you feel you are going to die, you will always make wrong decisions.
Lets see in the next verse how Arjuna does his grumbling, grudging, crying. 37th verse -
“tasman narha vayam hantum dhartarastran sa-bandhavan sva-janam hi katham hatva sukhinah syama madhava”
He says - “Therefore, it is not proper for us to kill the sons of Dritarashtra and our relationships”
He is not even asking advice from Krishna he is just giving conclusions.
“For how could we be happy after killing our own kinsmen madhava!”
Again he is coming svajanam, svajanam and he is using a very technical word – madhava. Madhava means husband of Lakshmi – the closest relationship to Krishna is Devi. He says see you also have people, you also have relationships. So you should understand the value of relationships. Svajanam, svajanam. See for every sutra Arjuna is so I can neither say intelligent nor cunning. This fellow is using a apt word when he is talking about violence. He says Madhusudana, Keshava saying you are a destroyer. When he speaks about relationships svajanam, svajanam - my people, my people he says oh Madhava! Means you also have relationships. Remember how you feel with your relationships. Same way I also feel with my relationships. Almost I can do a PhD on the Arjuna’s mental set up and mental set up of all disciples. I can say almost I am living with millions of Arjunas! I should only start the Satsang - dear Arjunas! Sitting all over the world! No really every sutra Arjuna is saying his one layer of conditioning. Suddenly here he comes up with a conclusion saying this is not proper for us to kill the sons of Dritarashtra and our relationships for how could we be happy for our own kinsmen Madhava! The word svajanam. Here I can neither say Arjuna is cunning nor I can say intelligent. He is a dumb ignorant fool. That’s all I can say. Otherwise to whom he is talking? And it is not that he doesn’t know Krishna is God himself - Poornavatara, poorna purushottama, poorna Brahma! To describe exactly what Krishna is maybe I can give you a story -
One day a lawyer and doctor were sitting and talking having a conversation. Doctor continuously gets calls. Within 2 hours he gets at least 20 calls for the medical advice. Of course medical advice is always free. They don’t charge by hours. So finally the doctor asks the lawyer how do you manage when people call you like this continuously for advice? Lawyer says I give them, then I send them the bill by mail. You also do the same. But the doctor felt very guilty because the doctor profession is related to body and suffering. Always usually doctors give free medical advice. So finally the doctor prepares his mind and alright, even though he feels little guilty, he prepares all his bills. For next 2 day. And after 2 days finally he goes to the mail box to mail them, place them. And there he finds a bill from lawyer! ☺
You can’t say cunning, you can’t say intelligent he is just un-describable!
“tasman narha vayam hantum dhartarastran sa-bandhavan sva-janam hi katham hatva sukhinah syama madhava”
Shyama shyama madhava! Arjuna goes on and on and on revealing different layers of his conditioning. I will expand on further layers of Arjuna’s conditioning in the further satsangs, further sutras. Now few moments to remember Krishna and pray to him at any conditioning, at any worst conditions, at any worst confusion, ask him let me not miss you, let me not move away from you. Let me not do the foolish things which Arjuna is doing. Remember pray to him for few seconds. Let the Kundalini energy in all of you be awakened. Let you all experience the ultimate!
Wow! Just now Navaratnas have materialized that Krishna was wearing. We will prove it through carbon study ☺ mention it and record. We will do the study.
I bless you all sitting with us at this moment in 723 places through eNtv, in 11 places through 2 way video conferencing, in 212 cities in 24 countries!
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- Date
- 31 August 2011
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