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Prayer. I Welcome all the devotees, disciples, satsangis, samajis sitting with us around at this moment around the world in places through 302 places through eNtv, in 6 places through 2 way Video conferencing, in 87 cities and 17 countries! Cities sitting with us in 2 way connection – Toronto Kaialash, Seattle Chidambaram, San Jose Madhurai, LA Aruna, Phoenix Kanchipuram, Chennai Anna Nagar Center. My blessings to all the participants, pregnancy care participants in Anna Nagar Center! I welcome you all with my love and respects! San Jose Madhurai only temple is there and deities are listening to Brahma Sutras. I think they kept the camera and went away. And Phoenix also only the deities are listening. So now I have to add dear devotees, deities, samajis, satsangis sittign with us around the world ☺ I could see now Bangalore North also.
1st chapter 1st part 28th sutra in Brahma Sutras
Praanaha tathaath anugamaath!
Oh! No audio. I am wondering how come nobody is bowing down. I am telling everybody’s name and nobody is bowing down! ☺ Anyhow I cannot talk in the deaf & dumb language! It will take few mintues. Lets wait for minutes. Come on! Let us materialize till then!
Swami Gambhirananda – Praana is Brahman because it is comprehended thus
Swami Veereshwarananda – prana is Brahman it being so comprehended fromt eh perpert of the texts
Swami Shivananda - prana is Brahman that being so understood from the connected consideration of the passage referring to prana.
Again we are back to square one! Vyaasa restarts the same concept from the 1st argument giving some more reverences, some more texts, different logic, different comprehension. Prana is Brahman because it is comprehended thus. Let me give you the further references bhaashyakaras using –
Saho vacha prataah…tvam manushyaa..manyaasa iti!
The translation says – you yourself choose for me that boon which is you think is most beneficial to man!
Lets see the next references –
Saho vacha…manye saho, vaacha pranno, asmin pragnyatma…itupaashva!
The translation says know me only this is what I think most beneficial to man I am prana the intelligent self pragnyatman meditate on me as life as mortality!
Next reference –
Sayomaan….kenacha karmana…na maatur vadena..
The translation –
He who knows me thus by no deed of his, his life harmed neither by matricide, nor by patricide!
In the VT whenever an enlightened being has happened, an incarnation has happened a Guru has happened they were always revolutionary, rebellious. I ca….
The essence of the whole Gita is repate the whole Gita is tagi, tagig, tagi means tyagi that is the whole essence go! You can’t imagine RK sitting and commenting on BS or BG. Forget about commenting, if somebody was commenting, he may not want to even attend that lecture..
Same way you cant imagine Ramana commenting. He reduced it to 36 slokas. He picks up some 36 slokas translates and say..
Masters always tend to work on revealing the atma pramaana their experience. Pundits intellectuals always has time and consciousness, more than the word consciousness I can use time & mind & energy they go on commenting on all these scritputres, screating more and more complications…lets student understands more he respects you. see basicall y the work of a philosopher is not to make the teachings and sutras very clear to disciple. …he needed to do this only one thing. he need to use big big words so that you come to conclusion …complicated explanations, difficult place, difficult words. They just need to give long talks. That’s all. I tell you if you speak more than 1/2hour no body listens to you. if you ..repeat the same thing after ½ hour you are a great lecturer that’s all.
Boss called one of the employees to his office and said you have been in the company for more than 3 years now. I have to go for a lecture. Prepare a lecture for 20 minutes. …anyhow the guy gives the lecture. The boss goes. But somehow it took one hour. He comes back and calls the employee and shouts, you fool why did you give me such a long lecture? Before I finished, practically everybody went away. It took one hour for me to finish reading out whatever you gave. The employee was baffled! Sir I gave you only 20 minutes speech. I only gave you two extra copies you asked for! ☺ it is very easy to be a Pundit I tell you. just prepare for ½ hour and speak the same thing for 3 times. Becos nobody can catch. You..first of all they don’t listen. 2nd more than 5 minutes they don’t repeat cohesively…or you are putting it from the different angle! Pundits go on talking because that is their life. But there won’t be life or truth in it. Masters go on radiating the truth but don’t talk on this scriptures….the solidification of the tradition never happens. every master comes like a rebel. All rebels put together is called as HT that’s all. That is the way we are! See after the vedas whoever came each one of them have become a wave. Sometime some waves even rejected the vedas. …shaiva lingayats don’t accept the authority of the vedas…many places they don’t accept vedas. Each tradition when a master happens becos more emphasis was given on experience, not on tradition, they gave experience to 1000s but again when the wave subsides, it is not adding strength to the roots. That is why still we are not able to say one book as the non-controversial book of Hinduism! You know many big organizations like Hinduism today don’t accept the BG as the main book of Hindu tradition. You will be surprised there are many hindu organizations don’t accept Gita, becos each time when a new wave happens in the HT, the new wave gives emphasis on the experience not on strengthening the tradition. These are some of the technical mistakes. Of course the masters have their own excuse – what is the need of all these shaastras even if you study yoru whole life you will not achieve enlightenment. Even this is also written in scriptures only….but we have our own excuses. First time in the history of Hinduism, I am in a unique difficult position where I need to express my experience and transmit my exp to millions of ppl at the same time I have tremendous love, respect and patience, passion and patience to bring tradition back to life! So I can’t afford to say tagi tati tagii sthe essence of Gita for you. it is very easy to do that. and RK was happily do it. living happily on the private gardens of Ganges, a privat temple, few boys to serve you, and an obedient unimaginable wife in Kaliyuga, …the life RK lived is totally different. Its very easy for him to say tagi, tagi, tagi is essence of Gita follow it. it is very easy for anybody to say that. but in my case I have taken the responsibility to both side. Whole day I am busy with tiving experiences to ppl, taking them to the next level of consciousness and spending time to giving strength to the scriptures! Even if all the enthu, energy and excitement even if everything settles down, but my contribution to the VT will not settle down! After few hundred years…the strengthening I did for the VT will not disappear. See now it is so unfortunate RK would have never expected all the energy and enthu he created will subside so badly. He was the priest of HT his whole life. Till the last day of his death he was always taking the maha prasaadam…such a devote orthodox hindu, he would have never expected his disciples would go to supreme court and say they are not hindus! ☺ Swami vivek who went to US and represented Hinduisim in New York created a huge spirutiual wave. That was the first 9/11 understand. The 2nd only is the terrorist attack. First 9/11 is Vivek expressing spir in New York sorry Chicago. Anyhow US should know what Muslims have they gave 9/11 and we gave our own 9/11….
He would have never imagined within 100 yrs his disciple…Krishna would never imagine the organization following his teachings will go to the international court and say they are not hindus. …maybe after 100 years, 200 years nothing remains except those few buildings and relics! Becos when those masters were in the body they put all their attention and energy in transmitting the exp. Not adding strength to the tradition…becos transmitting exp, englith everything is great, good, ultimate. But the whole energy enthu you create, the whole dust you create, the whole buzz you create, the whole chaos you cratre will subside settle down…unfortunately many of our masters did not spend necessary energy and time in shaastra pramaana. They were too busy in apta and atma pramaana. End of the century they moments, movements did not add strength to their tradition and tarad also is not adding strength to their movement…essence of Hinduism.
Each tradition in HT has their own book. Shaivites don’t even know about BG..many of the shaaktas claim Krishna is born out of the nail polish. All Dasavataras have formed …the dasa maha vidyas have happened from the 10 feet nail of Vishnu. And these enlightened masters also, instead of adding strength to the tradition they go on and on and on emphasizing on the exp. Of course exp is the ultimate. That is the purpose of everything exists. But at least 10% of energy should be spent in keeping scriputres, shaastras alive. …But unfortunately they are so juiceless no intelligent go to them. all intelligent ppl come to the masters who are charismatic, radiating, plying with energy. Why will anybody go some where to blow your nose or learn some kriya after seeing me or my programs or having some exp. Why will somebody sit in some veda patasala …no they will not. They will naturally thing exp is everything…even if you read for 20 years, you are not going to have anything. But I tell you this thot trend has weakened our HT by not creating enough strength to the scriptures. Each one has their own excuse. Story for all of you –
One day guy was driving 85 in the zone of 55. Cop caught him but this guy not only did not stop raised the speed, went beyond 100. Only when he realized he can’t go further, he stopped the car, the cop came by the sie and said see I am really, really really tired today. I have done all my driving from morning. I have finished my quota, this month’s quota of tickets, if you tell me a reason for your action convincingly I will let you go. This guy thinks….i thought you might be that officer trying to give her back! ☺
Each one has a reason for speeding. But the reason does not justify, excuse does not justify the action!
One more story –
Professor is saying in the class see Newton was sitting in the garden saw the apple ..he disvoered theory of gravity is not that great. Student said yes sir if he was…
Understand Newton is an enlightened being creating formula for experience. But people who read the formula int eh class room also contributed to the tradition of science. Unfortunately, in HT whoever could contribute in the line of exp..and sometime they have even weakened it! I am in a unique position where I have to go on creating enlightened beings and authentic traditional sanyasis who know the scriptures shaastras! It is ia unique position, it is a unique responsibility I have taken that is the reason it is such a big struggle becos there is no model precedence for what I am doing now. Nobody has done it before me. either they have all concentrated…
Here I am caught with both the responsibilities! that is why sometime when I try to give experience whatever I say do, contradicts when I try to give the knowledge of the scriptures. If you ask me any problem in the class all I say is bring it during ED I will handle it. I am not sitting and explaining answering. But in the satsang on the scriptures, I am expanding, expanding, expanding. Becos the purpose there is diff, here the purpose here is diff.
One day a lawyer’s pet dog ran into the butchers shop and ate some meat. The butcher calls the lawyer and asks sir if somebody’s pet runs into my shop and eat meat is the owner supposed to pay the money for the meat? Lawyer says sure. Immd butcher sends the bill and calls him again sir the …
50 dollar. Lawyer sends the money 50 dollar for the meat and the bill 200 dollar legal consultation service. He says pay my legal consultation service! ☺
So the lawyer has to play b oth the roles owner of the dog and lawyer.
I have to play botht he roles role of incarnation transmitting the exp. Role of acharya…by adding flesh to the Vedic bones, blood to the Vedic body. VT has become just bone! It is incarnations who are responsible to add flesh to the Vedic bones, blood to the Vedic body! it is a huge responsibility. Today evening before the BS I was just sitting and seeing the sutras. For a moment I felt oh God! Why such a complicated theories, philosophies, understandings happened? I should describe exactly as it happened. only then you can catch it. I read the sutra and I was preparing the thought trend for VP…
I looked into m e and said let my buddhi and mind – intelligence and logic. Pl und intelligence is visulaizaiton and logic is verbalization. ..
Pl under logic is diff intelligence is different!
Story – teacher asks one day in the class if there are 100 sheep and 20 jumps out of the fence how many will be there inside the fence. He asked one boy from the shepherd family. That guy gets up and says none sir. Teacher asks fool I think you don’t know your arithmetic. The boy says you may know your arithmentic but you don’t know sheep. When one goes, they all go. You may know logice, I know sheep.
So intelligence and logic are totally diff. …
So my logic was asking why did such complicated teachings becos when I read this today’s sutras and I wanted to realize, like a lightening, one full part of my brain has to ligt up to grasp my whole being. And that lightening to …may take at leat next 2 days. When a und of lightening happens in my brain for that to become verabzlization which you can grasp it is like 1…I was wondering why such complicated teachings were given to planet earth. …buddhi suddenly says fool we careated all these complications, we only have to take the class. Of course as I said it is very diff for me to verbalize the whole thing which went on inside. if I verbalize only one part then you may think I am talking out of arrogance or ego. No. I saw very clearly the energy which created this universe and complications, that same energy is only now expressing the complications also. the energy which created the mess always feels responsible to clear the mess also. and he has to clear, nothing can be done!
One guy who c…..runs into the main reception, hall and throws a dirt big basket of dust, dirt and challenges that old lady if this vacuum cleaner does not pick up every bit of this, I will eat it, I will eat all. The old lady slowly says becos I could not pay my electricity bill, long before power disconnection happened. if I had the money, I would pay the electricity bill. Now there is no electricity…now would you like to eat by hand or fork?
So the man who has thrown the dirt now has to choose whether he wants to eat by hand or by fork. That is the reason incarnations have to land on planet earth. they are…like this vacuum seller only! These arguments which Vyasa is presenting emphasizes the same concept again & again Prana is Brahman. But surely the disciples of Nitnhyananda may not want to listen…unfortunately the book is not written just for Nithyananda disciples. It is written for pundits, philosophers, teachers, becos masters & incarnations never speak on this sutras they say once this is the truth, don’t bother, go to next. But here first time a master takes the responsibility of giving life to all this tradition, when I take up all this kind of resp one side I fell tremendous joy, other side it is huge resp.
A reporter goes to a old lady who is 122, madam how do you feel? …she says no peer pressure?
So when ppl ask me also how do you feel taking all this resp? I can say no peer pressure! …there is no peer pressure!
Sayomaam vijaneeyaam na asya kenacha karmana loko meeyatena …
He knows me thus by no deed of his is his life armed neither by matricide nor by patricide! The ss from this sutra of vyasa you need to understand is prana is Brahman! Brahman is prana! And he is emphasizing it again & again & again. Understand and get enlightened.
The thought trend for the VP is – Is prana Brahman? In this sutra itself there are some arguments referring to the different scriptures, diff referrnces from the Kaushitati Upanishad. I wanted today all our devotees who are doing KM read this original verses. I will tell them to post all these original verses and try to catch the logical KM happening in this verses and present. This will be thot trend for KM
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