“Today we will enter into the 12th verse of 2nd chapter Sankhya yoga”

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Today we will enter into the 12th verse of 2nd chapter Sankhya yoga

Na tve vaaham jaatu naasam Na tvam neme janaadhipaah Na caiva na bhavishayaamah sarve vayamatap param

The translation says – There was a not a time when in the past I did not exist. Nor was there a time when you & these things exist. There will neither be a time when all of us cease to exist after this war.

Krishna is straight away giving the truth. Please understand you need to understand the context of this verse uttered. Blessed are those who listen to the great words intimately. Please understand this is not an intellectual statement. Here the close friend with whom Krishna grew together, the close friend is standing in depression and ready to do whatever you say putting his whole life at risk. It is such an intimate moment. Understand even ordinary man will not tell a lie in this situation. Person like Krishna – this is not a statement uttered by somebody sitting on a stage to someobody who may or may not listen. Gita loses its grace when you speak from the stage to unknown people. Blessed are those who sit with the intimacy of Arjuna with me now. Sit with the feeling connection of Arjuna. See Arjuna is he practically grew up together. They both grew up together. From same Gurukul Saanthivani. Both of them are from same Gurukul. They grew up together. And I can say it is a intimate moment the situation of life & death. Not only Arjuna knows Krishna thoroughly. They were class mates & glass mates both! They were doing all good things together and naughty things together. Too close. That kind of intimacy, connection. And he is in depression. And he says…by the suffering and confusion. Even ordinary people, I can say even the worst people will not talk, not only they will talk anything wrong, they will not waste time beating around the bush at this kind of moments. I tell you the greatest truths of life is getting revealed here because Krishna is in the pressure of tranmistting the truth. His personal intimacy with Arjuna and he is in the high confusion. Arjuna is in the high confusion. I can say peak of confusion. Imagine a situation. Actually it happened just few days before. One BC was going through some mood swing. Came to me and said I am feeling like going out. I held his hand and told understand not as a Guru or the head of the organization, but almost like a father. Because I brought him up at least fro the last few years. I told him I will not give any ideas which will cheat your life. Und, I will not infuse any ideas in you which will exploit your life. I tell you I will give you ideas only which will directly fulfills your life. Straigth truth I told him. I remember very clearly, I told him this is the same way, same engram with which you are missing me for the last 700 years. I can understand the situation because everyday I am going through that. every day with so many Arjunas I am doing the Sankhya Yoga. You should not take this as a philosophy. Pl und not a single word Krishna is uttering as a philosophical component in it. it is a pure truth. The essence, truth as it is, because Krishna neither has time nor interest to talk philosophy. He has to tell the truth as it is. I can say it is like a somebody who is really really dedicated to me, whom I know I don’t need to inspire or prove myself. He is already deeply dedicated to me & he is in a big problem and in that moment he …I will not be talking something foolish. I will not try to establish my glory there. Naturally in deep concern I try to express the truth which is directly required to elevate his consciousness. Krishna is a person with deep concern. He does not need to establish…to Arjuna claiming he is God, and claiming big big words….he does not need to show a graceful movements to Arjuna he is divine himself. NO. Arjuna is already thoroughly convinced about the glory and greatness of Krishna and Arjuna ….long long ago, when I was in this city you know the people used to gather around me, I am directly the embodiment of God’s energy. No fool will do that. and no fool will be ready to listen to you at that time. You need something solid truth and Krishna is not a fool to talk about philosophy when Arjuna is in a mess. I fyou look at these verses as a philosophy, you lost it! you abused Krishna, you abused Arjuna, you lost the intimacy between them. you need to look at who is talking to whom and when. It is not a pravachana done from Vyaasa peeta….spectators and you caught hold of a mike and you went on. No. then you can talk all philosophy. You have thousands of reasons to talk philosophy…you are God, you are something more than them. but here Krishna does nothave any of that pressure. He does not need to convince Arjuna and Arjuna is in a deep suffering. He is begging for help. Not only that he already promised I will do what you say. Sishyasteham – I am your disciple!

Arjuna knows whole life of Krishna. Surely he knows all life style and incidents of Krishna. Arjuna must have known even Krishna running away from war field. Arjuna must have known….all the Gopikas he had, and all the rumors and scandals he suffered, all the troubles he faced and finally running away to Dwaraka. But beyond that Arjuna has strong connection that Krishna is God…Arjuna is the survivor of scandals. When you are a survivor of a scandal, your devotion ripens. The feeling connection gets ripened. The real mystical work can start. The transmission of energy, the transmission of pure words can start immd. Blessed are those who sit in Satsang everyday. Because you will lose the idea it is Satsang. It is such an intimate connection…it is something like Oh! Remote action. You sit and some Guru is talking. NO. even if you sit in video conferencing, whole day you will be waiting for that Satsang time to come. Even if you are doing some other job, some other work, you will just wait…and …here these words are uttered with a deep personal intimate sharing. Almost like Shiva talking to Devi.

Repeats verse & translation.

I tell you unless I make you understand the context, the power of these words you won’t understand. It is like some body who lives with me for 50 years takes care of me morning till night. Gave me food, takes care of my clothes and serving me. he knows my whole life. I don’t need to prove to him I am God. ..unless you feel a strong feeling connection, unless that person also reciprocates that strong feeling connection you cannot live with someone for 50 years and all….at the moment of death he holds my hand and asks when he is about to leave the body he is asking me – Swamiji, give me one word which I will hold on and ….will I have time to talk all non sensical words there? Will I be sitting and talking…no. I will neither have time to talk stories, nor I will have time to talk philosophy nor I will have time to brag. .what I will tell at that situation and with what emotion because he does not even needs to be logically convinced. I don’t need to give him an example, a logic behind my words. I just need to tell him the truth as it is…bottle for it and make a beaurtiful designed wrapper for it so that people will buy and then…..so that it can be sold. The medicine would have costed 5 paise by the time it comes to the person it will be 50 rupee. …who will pay? Same way only when a truth gets marketed, it becomes religion. When commercials are created and spread, naturally, it becomes religion. Some time, the worst part is when fanaticism is added, it become even terrorism. I wanted all of you to know the truth as it is. It is too simple. But to listen to that, to imbibe that, you need simple feeling connection. Arjuna is going to take whatever Krishna is going to utter in face value.Arjuna is trusting Krishna’s intelligence more than his logic. He just is desperate, … Krishna embodiment of love, compassion, person who always gave, a great sacrifice, Tyagi Tyaga raja. People may be surprised when I use the word Tyagaraja for Krishna. It is not a joke to share your space with thousands & thousands of people. Understand for a normal man who lives in unconsciousness it looks like womanizing. He is not a womanizer he is a tyagi sharing space to thousands & thousands. Mass unconscious donkey mind can never understand the tyaaga of Krishna. Only a person who lives in his space…person like Krishna who lives in that spectrum will enjoy his aloneness million times more than any person around them. see when he is squeezed with crisis, what comes out of him, see. When he is cornered. Now Krishna is completely corenerd, he is also now responsible to take Arjuna out of depression. But in that cornered movements, see what Krishna is expressing. He is not saying….i am stressed I want to spend little time with Rukmini. Lets go back. No. if he is dependant he would have asked for that…..when your bone marrow gets drilled, when your bone gets drilled what comes out is the material out of which you are made.

He is embodiment of Jnana. I can say the greatest achievement of Bhagavan Sri Krishna is not killing Kamsa & Sisupala, not even BG. It can only be great achievement of Krishna, not greatest ac heivement of Krishna. The greatest achievement of Krishna is Tyaga of his personal space. Thousands of people just by his love & charisma achieved parama pada, vaikunta pada, the ultimate state…Goloka vasa! It is not a joke to make so many millions to feel that they are all loved. And he is after all a king. Naturally he must be running a whole country. It is not a myth he is a king. It is a truth. Now archeological evidences are proving….infra structure. There are arch evidences. May be tomorrow I will show you the video on Dwaraka. He is a King. So naturally he would have had thousands of rules and regulations, he would have had structuring dept, he would have had rules, he would have punished few ppl, beyond allt hat he made thousamds of people they are loved. It is not a joke. I know the amount of Tyaga required to make ppl feel they are loved. Just loving them does not need much Tyaga. Tyaga of Shiva is too easy. It is nothing but a habit. Instead of wearing ….it is a habit. God! Now Shiva is getting the fire ☺ And not only habit, thousands of people are going to appreciate that. see for ex, if I am having ordinary chair and ordinary cotton simple cloth and ordinary Rudrakshas without any of these gold coloured ..and an ordinary cloth turban it is considered as Tyaga. Understand it is not tyaaga it is just a habit we create. Even one year before I was not wearing every day on dress or diff diff color. That is not a big tyaaga. It is a habit. But world appreciates that. see that is naturally appreciated by the world -= wow, what a simple person. and the appreciation of the world ….which is just ordinary habit. Don’t mistake habits for tyaaga. Krishna’s tyaaga is the real tyaaga. He does not follow any habitual tyaaga s which is painted as tyaaga. But the real ultimate sacrifice is sacrificing your personal space. It is like a constantly sacrificing your very existence for thousands of people to feel that they are loved, they are watned. It is very very easy to be in Shivas space. Just created the habitual tyaagas means create simple clothes, simple jewelry, simple life style and it becomes a habit after some time,and live in yoru space. It is not a great tyaaga. I can tell you exactly the tyaaga of Shiva and tyaaga of Krishna. I know both the tyaagas, both sacrifices. I tell you a normal man can never understand the sacrifice of Krishna. And Krishna’s sacrifice is always abused. …his sacrifice by his extraordinary way of dressing and he making feel every body that they are loved, jut by that….than the shiva bhootas and shiva ganas who got elevated….habitual sacrifice is diff, sacrificing the space is diff. see this dressing, this throne will naturally constantly condemned, will not be…but through this I am making thousands to be connected….and raising them to enlightenment. I tell you habitual tyaaga is very easy. It is very easy to compare me with the sadhu who sits in a normal chair, ordinary cotton robe, with ordinary one rudraksha bead sitting – Oh, live a simple life, live a normal life, meditate! …I will liberate million times more people than him! sacrifice of personal space. A person like Krishna who has sacrificed personal space will naturally be very sweet & soft in their very heart. In their very core they will be sweet & soft. This kind of personalities, cannot lie. Especially during this difficutl, critical movements. It is a crisis for Arjuna and Krishna. Whatever he says is a straight truth.see I told one of my BC few days before….it is not I am talking some philosophy. I am not talking something to make him stay. Then finally I told him that also, I fyou really want to go, then …it is sincere, intimate, personal, honest commitment to the relationship of Guru, disciple. The Guru disciple relationship. If somebody has served me for 50 years and when he is about to die and he asked me Swamiji tell me something. I will nto be talking some bull, I will naturally tell in 2-3 words the exact truth. When he is about to leave the body he is asking. When I am about to leave the body ….at that moment, I don’t need to convince them I am somebody great at that moment. I just need to reveal the truth. Because they are not asking for logical support. They are just asking tell the ultimate. That is enough. Here Arjuna …he just wants straight guidance means instruction. That is why Krishna beautifully oepns up and says I tell you this statement can never be logically proved….no. it can only become realization in all of you by the personal intimate feeling connection. Feeling connection is the ground where the seed becomes the tree. Not the logic. Feeling connection is the ground where when the seeds are sown, seeds of reality, it becomes the reality of experience, tree of experience. Here Arjuna is having the tremendous feeling connection.

…He says there was not a time in the past I did not exist! Wow! What a statement ☺ some time the disciples who take care of me, who live around me, to them I speak in a very funny way. When I …the power expressing. I look at them and tell Aiy understand, I have power! ☺ it is not ..i don’t even convince them. they will laugh, they will actually laugh at me when I say that. it is a intimate statement. Those statements are not even logical. An ordinary mind, perverted convoluted brain can never get that! they can never get it. of course, they do not know the sweetness of the space itself. As I told you Sishyastenu – I am your disciple, the disciple hood that itself is such a sweet space! There were 2 enlightened masters in a small village. One achieved enlightenment through advaita , other thru the bhakti . so both of them were staying in the same village. Of course they did not have any b ig conflict. But both of them were always playing with each other trying to prove the path….in a big way – Soham means I am that. this Bhakta who is the achieved enlightenment through the dualistic path. He just went and added one word – da. It became Dasoham….sadasoham! always I am that! Dvaitis may not be clever but they will always have that fanatic perserverance….Dasa Dasoham! Naturally adviati is not going to keep quiet…sadasadasoham…it goes on & on & on. But I tell you as knower of both joys, please understand I am not the knower of both the joys only in the ultimate space…from A to Z. when you start as an advaiti, travel as an adviati and end as advaiti…whenyou start as a bhakta…all the joys and pains you face – I have seen both completely from A To Z. understand, from my experience I tell you nothing like the taste of Dasoham the receptive, being a receiver….the journey is so sweet with the mood of receiver. In that tremendous feeling connection, Krishna is uttering – there was not a time in the past I did not exist. I can give you example of one statement. Raghupati Yogi arragned for a program when I was at the age of 11. And did a public function, he put me on the stage and ….he himself did pada puja and fell flat at my feet saying as per tradition….in all the advaita matas including the sringeri mutt, ….Guru does pada puja and aarthi. Setting a trend so that all otherwise for example….one is made peetadhipati all the other 9 …..it becomes a tradition all the 9 has to follow him, respect him. saying that as a reason, he did that and I also kept quiet. But the devotion with which he did, next day I was not able to tolerate it….those things are not required to show for the disciples.

Next day I still remember…just leaning on the pillar. I was sitting next to him pressing his calf muscle and asking him what is this tata it is word for grand father. Why did you sprinkle and I saw tears in your eyes. Tell me the truth. See this is too intimate moment…he is going to make. Then he was actually relaxing with closed eyes. When I asked him he said aiy leave it, it is okay…I still remember I shook his leg and said no tell me. this area below the knee and baove the ankle that area I was pressing. Then he slowly opened his eyes the tears rolled his eyes and he said I know you are incarnation and I want to be the first person who did paada puja to you! I tell you the moment, the moment you doubt any one of this part of this whole incident whether the factuality of the incident or the intimacy betoween me and him or the honesty with which he uttered ….the moment you doubt any one aspect of this incident, it is already disrespected. Forget about it. it is not for you. forget about it, I am sorry I spoke this to you. but if you understand that intimacy. If at all you experience that kind of honesty, openness and intimacy and causeless trust between some body…krishna and Arjuna and the space …did not exist. In my life one more momemt I can say Priyamayi’s mother her mother she is also closely connected to me. for a long time she is also a devotee. And I still remember she was in death bed. Somehow I landed up in Chennai and in her house. I was sitting next to her on the bed. She opened her eyes and saw me. she recognized me and trying to say a few words. …all others were asked to leave the room. It is a very personal intimate moment. It is time that she will leave the body any moment. All I did I just gave few drops of Ganga water and I held her hand. She is waiting for my word. …all I said is relax, I will liberate you. just hold on with this word, rest. That is not a moment to cheat, you understand, that is not a moment to tell a lie. Any sensitive person…but she was so honestly connected with me, she was so thoroughly….she left the bod within half an hour. I left the house, by the time I reached the airport they told me she left the body Swamiji. All I said is this only relax I will liberate you now, you will not have one more birth. That’s it. only in those intimate moments, the great truths will …..if not, what is the plan B?where the logic does not even raise the question of plan B, only the A grade lessons can be given. Only then the A grade lessons can be given. I can see very clearly, Krishna sitting on the chariot, the Arjuna kneeling down in the side. Krishna must have been having one hand on the shoulder of Arjuna and the other hand the stick with which he controls the horses. Almost a moment of Energy Darshan…did not exist. There will neither be a time when all of us would cease to exist even after this war. This statement should be taken as a intimate love poem not as a philosophy. NO. if you read this word as a philosophy, you will spoil the bearuty of the Gita. You will destroy the grace and …and the powerful transmission…is to make that same powerful transmission happen in all of you which happened between Arjuna & Krishna. I am talking to Arjunas with the only intention of transmitting what has been transmitted to Arjuna. I am not intereste in creating another rone philosophical trend. That my disciples will create out of my words…if you are looking for a philosophy from this verse, you missed everything! You missed the cow, you got only cow dung! Don’t look for philosophy in this. it is an intimate statement where he is telign ttruth. Thre was never a time in the past I DID NOT exist….niether b e a time when all of us would cease to exist even after this war. Naturally it is a shocker for Arjuna. It would have shaken Arjuna completely! Because it is a personal feeling connection statement of Krishna to Arjuna! It is a personal feeling connection statement to Arjuna by Krishna. It is a pure truth. Read the whole verse. There is no logical support for whathe is uttering. It is a simple truth. The courage which is given to Krishna by the dedicaon of Ajuna. Understand when a disciple is comepletely dedicatd, completely listening…..to one disciple I gave shodasi Devi mantra in my life first time I am giving…the 16th is a secret which comes from Guru parampara. It is a most secret sound, not even a letter, sound. Never in my life I shared with any body…..worshipping mother Devi Sampradaya. Never ever revealed that syllable that sacred sound to any body in my life. I myself was shocked that I already initiated somebody with that sacred syllable. Only when I went back to the room I realized what I did. Oh God! She came and asked me in the energy darshan and I initiated her. Then I saw her deep yearning….and the tremendous receptivity. I can say that there is nothing in my life which I revealed to only one person, no body else knows except this one syllable….the 16th sound has to be given by the Guru. I received from my Guru Kuppammal gave me that intiated….into that. Just casually I initiated her that day. Only latero n I realized what I did. I looked back, how did it initiate…a devotee, a volunteer. then I saw devotees deep request…gives certain courage to master. I had the courage…now I know thousands will pressurize me. how can you do this? why not me, why not me, why not me? I can say that is one of the most sacred secret I preserved from the Shakta sampradaya the Devi sampradaya. The highest gift I received…..i have no other secret. All the secret I learnt in Vedanta Sampradaya – unclutching, yoga samp – YS, hata yoga sampradaya I am revealing everyday…but the essence of the secret I learnt from the Shakta sampradaya…disciple’s dedication gives courage to master!

Sometime just the being of the disciple gives the courage! So understand there was not a time when in the past I did not exist. Nor was there a tiem when you and all these people did not exist. There will neither be a time when all of us will cease to exist after this.

Undersand I am talking to you – there was not…..sit & contemplate, do manana of this truth. Create the tremendous receptivity in you which will give courage to Krishna to reveal all the sacred secrets.

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