“Let me define exactly various kinds of outer body experiences.Your body…”
Prayer. Welcome. Morning Satsang I will continue talking on siddha tradition and the outer body experience in Siddha Tradition.
Let me define exactly various kinds of outer body experiences.Your body is just like a solar water heater. The sun is the super consciousness – god and the panel on which the sun rays are reflected and becomes energy is the body. The panel is your body. How the water gets heated through the panel, the body does many things, but the source of energy for that panel is sun rays. Same way the source of energy for your body is the reflection of consciousness. The more time the solar panel is directed towards the sun, the more energy will be produced. Please understand, more time the panel is directed towards the sun, the more energy will be produced. When the panel is away from the sun rays less productivity will be there. Same is the way with your logic. The more your logic is directed towards the consciousness the more productive, the more useful, the more alive it will be. The solar panel is directed towards the sun, the more energy will be produced. Not only is it productive but it is alive as well. It is working out its praarabhdha – what for it is created that purpose is getting fulfilled. Not only you being productive to the world, you feeling fulfilled is also an important factor in life. So the body more & more if it is directed towards the sun, more it will be productive, more it will be conscious, more it will be alive, more it will be fulfilling its purpose.
What is out of body experience? Understand, for some reason if you feel you are little more than your body, suddenly it will break into the system and suddenly your idea about God, Guru, World, death, life everything will completely take a new shift! Your world will be different. That is why from time immemorial this Incarnations go on talking the same thing. And from time immemorial these ignorant idiots go on talking on the same thing. One side there are incarnations, the other side these ignorant people.
The bridge how to jump from this side to that side. That breaking point is the out of body experience. Out of body experience can happen in a different way – 1. Unconscious reason and unconscious experience 2. Unconscious reason, conscious experience, 3. Conscious reason, conscious experience.
1. It is like coma – an accident is unconscious reason and coma the unconscious experience. Coma is also in a way out of body experience. It is like a unconscious reason, unconscious experience. No use it is like in the night time the panel not reflecting the sun. No use. Sun is also covered, panel is also covered. Not useful. 2. Unconscious reason but conscious experience – this is a very subtle point you need to understand. Unconscious reason but conscious experience. Understand this - only all the near death experiences experienced and recorded in the western world falls in this category. The reason is not conscious, it was not created. Suddenly with an accident they go into another plane and describe when they come back consciousness. About their experience and their whole understanding of life changes. They don’t live in the same way. That is why in the Bharatn tradition there is a habit. If somebody dies and taken to the cremation ground and if he comes back, he never returns to the house. Means his idea about life, death, god, world, fear and greed becomes different. So now he cannot fit with the normal society. So naturally he decides to live an Aghori life. There are many Aghoris who had near death experience, they are dead and family takes to cremation ground, then they becomes conscious and become aghori. The very aghori tradition started with this only. Because in those days lot of people had near death experience. The kumbaka which is the air staying inside without any movement used to happen very regularly in those days. I can see in my own ashram – 2 months back the whole ashram except me and another person was anemic. I introduced samaana yoga and simple changes like drinking neem juice in the morning before yoga and eating sesame and jaggery after Yoga. Just few vegetables were bought to our kitchen and a small life style change. Suddenly few days before I was informed the whole ashram is out of anemia! No medication, no iron infusion, nothing…just a few simple life style changes.
I tell you nothing is more effective than life style change. Those days lot of people used to have this near death experience because of their life style. Another example – Aruna Giri Nadhar was a great saint and siddha. In young age, he was from very rich family background. In young age, he was big womanizer – left and right. One day he was diagnosed with a disease which is those days HIV. It is supposed to be spreading. It is like a sexually transmitted disease considered incurable in those days. I don’t know exact English word for that disease. It is like a kind of a leprosy – incurable and sex transmitted. The moment he knew this, he was completely shaken. Because he was fully body based personality. There are some people who are money based personality, there are some people who are power based personality – even if you put them in prison they want power - dirty fellows. One day there was a breaking news in one of the most popular TV. The newsreader was announcing we have a good news and a bad news. The bad news is Bharat is suddenly invaded by the Rakshasaas. The good news is they eat politicians and piss petrol. It is a one liner I read somewhere ☺ So we need some Rakshasaas who eat this power based personalities. No shame, no back bone, the whole body is made out of drainage water, stinking bone marrow. Anyhow there are complete power based personalities who don’t bother about anything but power. And there are body based personality. Aruna Giri Naadhar was body based.
So naturally when he knew his body is no more useful, he was totally shaken and he decided to jump from the temple tower because he had no reason to live and no women will come to him. He decided to jump from the eastern side temple tower. He jumps from the top of the temple tower. Please understand, the story describes by the time his body reached the ground, Subramanya appeared, he held him, initiated him into the mantra and asked him to sing his glory. This is the description. I will tell you exactly what happened.
When he fell from that top, suddenly he had an outer body experience. Because the personality was completely shaken whether out of fulfillment of greed or extreme fear, when personality is shaken, the body is falling and the personality has decided to die, when the body was falling the fear or greed did not disturb his personality. Greed does not arise if it is fulfilled, fear will not arise if you are not bothered about it. So for a moment the unclutching has happened, the personality and the body got unclutuched. The fear of losing the body did not shake or disturb the personality because he already decided to leave it. The unclutching happened. he experienced the out of body experience. When you experience the outer body experience, when there is no ego, the body does not get damaged. This is a very important secret. Please understand. If kids get hurt and nobody is around they show no reaction. Only if you are watching their ego wakes up and they will feel the pain and start crying. With personality the body will be damaged. Because kids don’t have personality they fall like a flower and stand up immediately. See their weight, height and ability and your weight, height and ability. As per gravitational law they should be hurt more. Not only they don’t get hurt, they just jumped up. But only when you see them, when in your eyes you show that something is wrong , they get it and react and cry immediately. You can see a dead body and a living body. A living body sinks in water, dead body floats in water. Dead body is more heavy and filled with water inside. But it floats, living body sinks! The body without personality just floats with nature! In him just in those few seconds the outer body experience happened, unconscious reason but conscious experience. That is why he fell like a flower. When he opened his eyes, his visualization was so intense that (it is not fantasy because fantasy is unconscious and visualization is conscious) Subramanya became reality. In intense awareness your strongest visualization becomes reality. He then became enlightened.
This is what exactly happens. In Zen still they use the same technique. The master & disciple will be standing on the 3rd floor. Suddenly master pushes the disciple with no reason. Of course master knows the right time, the right person, how ripe you are and all that. The disciple simply falls like a flower, gets up and kneels down and declares his enlightenment! Some of the great powerful ways in which Zen tradition works .
The 3rd type of out of body experience is conscious reason, conscious experience. That is what I am doing in the NSP. In the death meditation – the process you go through. Consciously you go through the fear, you look into the death, go through the fear and consciously you experience the whole thing. Unconscious reason, unconscious experience, unconscious reason, unconscious experience, conscious reason, conscious experience. These are 3 levels of out of body experiences. Siddha tradition used all the three. Even the first level is also used by Siddha tradition to cure your body. If somebody faces an accident and goes into coma, the siddha will first cure all other ailments and then the coma. Because when your body logic is alive, you will not allow the natural healing to happen in you. Then when you come back they will give herbs to make it a conscious experience. Then when you settle into the body it becomes a conscious experience. That is why ALWAYS I have seen with a snake bite or poisoning – unconscious reason, unconscious experience – coma, they will treat in such a way when that fellow settles into the body and becomes aware, he becomes intense con. He becomes aware of his nervous system, becomes aware of the world, then frequency of the world is seen, the reality becoming reality will be a conscious process in them. That is why even if you are bitten by a snake if a great experienced siddha treats you it will not only be a re-birth for your physically but also consciously. Because when you are entering and settling into the body with awareness, suddenly your idea about death, life, god, world, greed fear just changes.
I tell you siddhas use even unconscious reason, unconscious experience to give real out of body - the enlightenment to you. Second, how they use unconscious reason conscious experience. They know to use the right medicine and give a right process to make that out of body experience a part of your life. If you go through once an out of body experience like aghoris, it is enough. Most of the siddha doctors are aghoris. I have seen a lady who used to live near my school. 3 times they declared her dead, she was taken to burial ground and she will sit up. Very elderly lady. After the 3d time she went and met a sadhu in Tiruvaannamalai. He gave her initiation and he gave her some instructions. That’s all! After that she became such a great healer! She is called actually the granny of the burial ground. Anybody goes to her if they have any problem in the body, she will stretch the left leg, show the leg on them they will be healed. All kinds of diseases she will heal. Very simple herbs like turmeric, neem she would give and she would heal them. This siddha showed her the path gave her exact understanding and allowed a cognitivie shift to happen. And now she became very useful not only to herself but to the world. So the second level also siddhas use.
The third very important out of body experience which is with conscious reason and conscious experience. Siddhas were able to give the conscious death experience through the right medicines and herbs and the right techniques. Siddhas actually used to use even the snakes. They will have snakes, they will make the snake to bite the disciple, when the poison is spreading all over the body, they will make the disciple to go through a process like watching breath like vipassana. You need to completely be centered on awareness of breath. First they will train you with weight lifting. Means even in pain you are able to retain your awareness. Then they will give the food poison which will affect your intestines and train you to be aware. Then they will give you scorpion bite. It will not kill but you will have heavy pain and if you are able to retain your awareness on your breath in that pain, then they will give you the next level snake bite. Of course you should not use this it is dangerous. This can neither be practiced nor promoted. Btu understanding of this science will help you in many other ways. They will make the snake bite and during that intense poison spread he will have intense awareness on breath and there will come a break point when suddenly the person will experience the outer body and they will immediately give you the antedote. It is just a ½ hr process. When the person comes back he will be a siddha purusha. They know if the breathing is not settling with awareness, they bring you back. If it is settling settling with awareness, they know beyond a point it will not settle. By that time if the person is with awareness, he will break the power of the venom and comes out of a siddha purusha. If this does not happen they pour another medicine and get him back and he will not be a siddha purusha. That’s all!
What we are doing in NSP is most harmless no side or after effect but intense experience of outer body experience. Common men, women, normal family people in 1000s going through an outer body exp 1st time happening in our NSP on planet earth! That is why when they go through that experience consciously and come out, everything is normal but their conciousness is put in the outer body experience and comes back. Their whole idea about life, death, God, world, greed everything transforms.
The near death experience can change your very idea you carry about god, guru, death, fear and greed. In Siddha tradition outer body experience is used as an important turning point for enlightenment for cognitive shift. Tomorrow I will speak little more detailed way how entering into the different bodies were used by siddha tradition. A living siddha entering into a dead body is one category, a living siddha entering into a living body is the second category, a dead siddha with no body entering into living body is the 3rd category and a dead siddha entering into a dead body is the 4th category. It is used by siddhas to bless the world in a different way. I will talk about these 4 sciences and we will understand how to use it for growth and healing. Let you all exp outer body exp with con reason and cons experience. Blessings!
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