“Whatever I describe as auspicious.”

Whatever I describe as auspicious. (..) How will I describe auspiciousness, you know? Ahhh, hmm. You see, I know the three layer past of you. First layer past is from your date of birth to till now, first layer past. From your first date of birth or first body until now, is second layer past. From the moment of Bigbang until now, third layer past. Because I know all three layer past of you, my idea of auspiciousness is more mature and riped and cosmically understood. Or comes from the cosmical understanding, then your concept of auspiciousness.

So now, let me describe auspiciousness. You will be (..) more than (..) what you think as you. If I have to put in one word, you will be just like me. How I handle whole thing. Would you love to have that? How I handle my Kingdom? You see, mine is actually Kingdom. It's not just a company or it is not just aaaa monastery. You see, if you are handling only money, it's a company. And all the people come to you also for money. If you don't give money, he will run away. If you give money, he will do anything for you.

So, handling only money is company, Vaishya's job. Handling only human beings is Kshatriya job, means, ahhh, ahh, army people. In army, money is secondary, you (..) once you are enroll it is a law, you can't run away in between. You can't reveal the secrets to somebody else. It's a law. So, handling men, then it is a Kshatriya job.

Third, handling the inspiration part, Brahmana job. Means just by the inspiration, he can make millions of people do what he wants to do. See, early morning, I wanted people to sit and inhale and exhale for seven minutes and concentrate on their chakras for seven minutes, hum for seven minutes, unclutch for seven minutes. Millions of people are doing around the world.

Just by inspiration. I did it! It's a Brahmana job, and making people work whole day it's a Shudra’s job. If you are doing all the four, it's a job of a King. Kingdom. If you see my organisation, it's a Kingdom, Samstana, where I'm handling people. Where I'm handling money. where I'm inspiring millions. Where I am making them work whole day.

So, I am handling a Kingdom, but completely unclutched. So, if I have to say, give an example of auspiciousness, you’ll be like me. Are you interested? And I created this whole thing out of dust. Understand, not just these buildings. Even people. All the fellows who are sitting around me and now talking, and all the people whom you see in the front row, during the morning Guru Puja. Each one of them I made out of dust, literally dust.

So, I made men, money, building, marketing, philosophy, disciples, everything out of dust, which is my own. So, do you want to be in my shoes? (Swamiji Laughs) That is what I am asking, then come on let us get into the place. That is what I am asking. Yes, hmm?

Give the Mic.

Delegate: “E Swamiji, how do we get that tremendous courage to go through the insecurity?”

Aaa you see, just look at your life, it is already doomed, do you have any hope?

Delegates: (Laughing)

Common, if you have any hope go and live that and come back. I'll be waiting for you. Just look with open eyes, basically you don't have hope. Man as such is a hopeless being. You go on trying to create gold and gold and gold and chains and think that you have a great hope and a great life, as if I am taking it away.

Just be beaten by them, then you will overcome. No, wait for a few years, they will beat you, then you will overcome.

Delegate: “Ahhh three points: When you did what you did, you did it in Bharat.”

Sorry?

Delegate: “You did what you did in Bharat, yeah?”

I would have done this anywhere in the world.

Delegate: “But Bharat facilitates people like you, if you did that on the West (..)”

Oh God, what are you talking? No, no, no, no, no, no, let let me be very clear, let me make it clear, when I say no to society, what I did you don't need to imitate that. All I am saying is, when you say no to society what happens? Let it evolve, later on. You see, if you are planning now and doing it, then again you have already future plan. I am asking you to do the big, the, what, what you call? Bungee Jump? Bungee jump. Bungee jump without rope. (All laughing)

Delegate: “Is it (..)”

But you say: “No, no, no, no, I will have one rope (..)”

Delegate: “But there must be a possibility where you can live in the real world, contribute and still be enlightened. What about (..)”

Ahh yes, that is what I am saying.

Delegate: “What about King Janaga? And then he lived in the world and acted out and he was enlightened.”

Ah okay, the King Solomon?

Delegate: “King Janaga.”

Ahh Kind Janaga. You met him?

Delegate: “No, I read about him. He is what, a thousands of years old?”

(Swamiji laughs) Are, I am doing the job of King Janaga. If you have met him and ask him ahh how to become like him, he would have told the same thing which I am telling now, come on.”

Delegate: “Really?”

You are talking to the, you are talking about the people whom I represent. (Swamiji laughing)

Understand? So listen what I am say (..), understand, I do understand your anxiety, your question. Is there not a way, where we will have a stable, great, beautiful, amazing life, which you are having in the world, without going through what you went through.

(Delegates and Swamiji laughing)

Am I right?

Delegate: “Yeah, I mean (..)”

Ahh, Yeahh (Laughing) In a way, a kind of? (Laughing)

Delegate: “There just must be a way you can live like you consciously, but not in an Ashram, thousands of miles away. You know, in the middle of the city, being an inspiration to other people.”

It is possible, I am not saying No.

Delegate: “That, that should be the ideal right? That should be the ideal.”

Swamiji: “No, no, no, I don't want to say this should be the ideal or that should not be the ideal and all that.

Delegate: “Should be an ideal, one ideal.”

Ah one ideal, an ideal.

Delegate: “To be a karma yogi in the real world.”

Ok. I’m, I understand all that. I accept. I am only asking you (..)

Please understand (...) I think I should break directly. The ideal which you are saying is impossible, come on. (Laughs)

Anything else you have? (Laughing) How is it impossible?”

Delegate: “I thought the soul is infinite. Anything is possible.”

Anything is possible? You say? Then, then after dropping the memory, living without becoming homeless should be possible?”

Delegate: “Should!”

Humm? Then why don't you think that?

Delegate: “Because living, being homeless is also possible.”

Ahhh?

Delegate: “Because you can also be homeless .., anything is possible. This is too much of a risk.”

That is what I am saying, you see, you say anything is possible.

Delegate: “Yeah.”

Is it not? Come on, let (..) So, I am saying “drop the memory” and whatever happens, let it happen. So you say: “No, no, no, if I drop memory I may become homeless. I don't want that. Is it not?

Delegate: “Yeah.”

I am saying, when you say “anything is possible”, why not (..) there is, there can be (..) there, there can be a possibility, after dropping memory also you can live a king life?

Delegate: “Yes.”

Then why don't you drop memory and live?”

Delegate: “You just said is impossible.”

Hey, I say impossible, but you are saying anything is possible.

Delegate: “So I’ll go with what I say, don't go with what you say.”

(Laughing) Then come on, do what I am saying, drop the memory. (Laughing). Either you should do completely what I am saying, or you should do completely what you think as possibility. So you say what I am saying is possible?

Delegate: “It’s just a risk isn't it, all comes down to the risk.”

That is what I am talking from the morning. (laughing) Come on. so now (..)”

Delegate 2: “Swamiji, you are saying (..) Ok. There, there are two possibilities. When we drop the mind as you suggest, we can either become homeless or there's a possibility we can become like you. Now, obviously I don't wanna become a Guru and .. (..)”

No, no, no, listen, listen, listen, listen, when I say like me I am not saying become a Guru, catching a throne and creating a .. organisation. No, no.”

Delegate: “Ok.”

Even the organisation which you are doing, the company which you are running, you will be the source of inspiration and energy where you became the leader, you became the (..) above society men and where you handle money, men (..) and create the whole thing.

Delegate: “Now, if you say it that way, that makes me feel more comfortable.”

Hummm. (laughing)

Delegate: “But you say the other way, just be homeless and I’m like (..) You know. That gives me inspiration, yes. That's the person or the being I wanna become.”

So, you can (..) you understand? Ahhh. Ok. So, don't worry, I am not going to give you Kavi and (..) (Laughing). Common, let me, let me clarify more, more clearly. Listen, but actually even when I say, after going back, you can be in your job and all that, the whole strength of the process is lost. The whole power with which you enter in the space of dropping the memory.

You need to have the intense, clear understanding how you are exploited by society. Even the idea which you carry, a idea of joy which you carry in you is given by society. And all the ideas you carry about you. You should be an Enlightened person, living in the midst of the society as an ideal. This idea is given to you by society to exploit you.

There was a lion which wants to eat, which saw the whole sheep (..) huge flock of sheep, and this fellow thought: “Oh God, if I attack one sheep and eat, I'll get one, but I will not get everyday one, one. So, I should do something so everyday I will have one, one. That fellow called all the sheep and hypnotized them and told him: “You are all lions”. All those fellows have started believing that they were lions, running around, roaring like lion and they all will come to him everyday. Because they think they are lion and he’s also lion friend, and this fellow secretly will steal everyday one one and eat. And he was having feast for next (..) for his whole life, because everyday he gets them.

Same way, society gives you the heroic ideals, so that it can go on exploiting you, while you are working towards your heroism, which is fed to you by society. The very idea of heroism given to you by society - break it. Come on, tell me a single fellow who is enlightened, sitting in society as an ideal? Your Avatara Purusha. Come on! Alright, let me clear all this, only then you will understand what I am really wanted to (..)

Others are able to catch what I am saying? You see, working with society is impossible! Understand that. After understanding this you will work with society. That will become possible. But not before that. You need to have first a complete, complete unclutching. Then you can clutch and do what you want and unclutch. But even one line of hangover, that (..) through that hangover they can clutch you. (Laughing)

There is no such thing as society, understand that! There is no such thing as society. Humm?

Delegate: “Swamiji, I understand what you are saying as far as the society exploits us, I understand that completely. I got it the first day that I saw your discourse. But what I am trying to find is a way to live in that society in an unclutched way that you do here.”

Yes, listen to what I am saying. I am having society. Is not that I am somewhere alone. Understand, I am having society. What you are trying to do there, unclutched way in the society will happen at least once if you unclutch completely.

Delegate: “So I have to take the job, basically?”

Swamiji: (Laughing)

Delegate: “Ok.”

I think this all insecurity is coming out, because I am literally boiling the base, the root. I am practically making you all the internally Swamis. I am not giving Kavi, but internally what I am doing, I am just forcibly separating.

Delegate: “Swamiji (..)”

You see, you cannot have that safety corner and renounce. You guys are trying again and again to have that rope and then do bigwig, the bunjee jump. Decide: “Even if I am doomed, nothing can be done, that is much better then the society constantly exploiting me and me carrying this memory and living.”

You understand? Unless you come to that edge, that end, that point, the breakthrough does not happen in your inner space. It'll happen in the intellect, it'll happen in the emotion, it'll not happen in the deepest part of what you are. You understand what I am saying? Hummm?

Delegate:” … what they are right now, maybe and they want more of the same thing, probably.”

Hmmm may not be happy but afraid of, see no devil is much better than unknown angel. That mood.

Delegate: “Yeah.”

That mood is the mood. Humm?”

Delegate: “... The process.

A yes?

Delegate: ”If I would have choose the process that you are offering and turn my back on society (..)”

Sorry?

Delegate: “Turn my back on society, because it’s exploitive and I am turning my back (..)

Oh yes, I understand.

Delegate: “I'll end up trying to find an alternative. I cannot be wondering the streets, I probably will come working for you like a lot of people.”

No, No I don't want that, relax. No, I am not interested in making all of you as a ashramite. No. I have enough confusion already. (Laughing) No, I am not (..) You see, what I am saying, I am not interested in making you homeless. No homeless agency is funding me, no, don't worry and same way, I am not interested in you being in the ashram. Humm? Of course, when you want to come I’ll say “Welcome”, that is different.

But I am not interested in making you come here. Third; You may ask in what am I interested? I am interested in making you completely enlightened. Afterwards, how your life should be, you should not start planning now. Break from that future planning and be ready to dump the whole memory, and what evolves after you dump, let it evolve by itself. Have the trust, tremendous trust over the life that it will evolve only the auspicious thing when you dump your memory.