“I welcome all the Paramashivasena participants, all the Paramashivasena…”

Blessings to all of you.

I welcome all the Paramashivasena participants, all the Paramashivasena program participants, Chitsaba members, Rajasaba members, Kailasavasis, Kailasa e-citizens, Kailasa parliamentarians and ministers. I welcome all of you with my love and blessings. Today we will have Ask the Avatar session. All chitsaba members can directly unmute and speak, ask your question and all the Rajasaba members can post your questions in a Zoom chat, All the e-citizens can post your questions in your zoom chat. So we'll start the session. All the questions e-citizens wanted to ask, you can post in your zoom chat. Om. Om Nithyananditha, can you unmute, start unmuting one by one the chitsaba members, those who want to ask questions, listen. Today we will focus on the questions related to the ultimate enlightenment initiations I am giving, truths I am revealing from this Navaratri. So yesterday there was one question. Nithyananditha, can you put that question, that yesterday's question? Okay. Good. Please get send that question ma. Nithyananditha, yesterday one person put a question, I said, I will answer today. Can you resend that question?

Yes,

Adriane Frost. Adriane Frost. So we remember Agamas, etc. All spiritual texts I know are important. But they are in the past. Are not they? Listen. When I tell you all these great truths, the moment you start repeating it has already become past. The truths which brings you to eternal even if it is uttered in the past cannot be considered as a past. The dream which wakes you up even though it starts as a dream, it is the divine dream which awakens you. Like if you see a lion attacking you in the dream, you will just wake up. Simha swapna wakes you up. In a way, I am also a dream for you, but I am a simha swapna. The moment I enter into your dream, I wake you up. Understand, I am a simha swapna. I am also a dream. But the moment I enter into your dream, I wake you up. Same way, These great texts which brings you to now, eternal. Even if they are uttered in the past, you can't call them as past. They are from eternal to keep you to get you to eternal. I am from eternal here to get you to eternal. That's all. So Agamas are like a Siha Swapna, guru. You can't tell them they are past and they are here to bring you to now. So I can't say they are from past, present, future. They are from eternal. They are here to get you to eternal. That's all.

Participant: Parvati swarupini is asking, Bhagawan, thank you for your love and patience after applying Kumkum, lighting up a lamp and incense sticks during yoga. I may sense the energy is different. How can I differentiate energy of ether, vayu, agni, etc? Swamiji: You don't need to differentiate. Enjoy the energy changing. That's enough. The energy transformation if you enjoy experience that is enough.

Nithyananditha, you can unmute Kaladevi. You can allow one question from Chitsaba, then I will take one question from RS or the e-citizens, then we will move to again one question from Chitsaba. Yes.

Participant: Nithyanandam Swamiji, To understand this truth as one wakes up in the morning out of the dream and we're entering into another dream, are we to just experience everything we experience everything that happens from the space of I am walking to the restroom, I am eating, the eternal moment.

Swamiji: Kaladevi, No. . Kaladevi, Kaladevi, Listen. Listen. Just stop commentary inside. The commentary on living stops you living. Without commentary, can you walk? You can. Without telling yourself you are eating, can you eat? You can. Just live without commentary. The constant remembering is not needed. Constant remembering stops your living. See, listen, there is an experiencer, You. That experiencer can exist without commentary remembering. The more and more you live without commentary remembering, you will get the deeper and deeper. Now listen, I'll I'll take you to the next level. Listen. Anything you see, the automatic labeling mechanism in you starts functioning. See, in the society, labeling mechanism is needed for you to function. Like a if you see a rose, you need to name it, you need to label it, your language need to assess. Constantly you function with labeling mechanism. Do you understand? This is for the society. But unfortunately, you are so accustomed to labeling even about you, you start understanding only based on the labels you gathered from outside and generated from inside. Just experiencing life without labels, without remembering. See, you do not need labels to be with you. Labels are great when you are doing your job. See, for example, you are a celebrated makeup artist. For you to do your job, you need to know which makeup product you are going to use or to which celebrity you are going to do. You need to know all those labels. It's great when you do the profession. When you are with yourself, nothing is needed. You don't need label, you don't need remembrance. All remembrance, all labels drop it and just sit with yourself and see you can exist without label or remembrance. See, even trying to be in present can be one more label, one more remembrance. Don't even try that. Don't even try that. Tell yourself very clearly, I need to remember and enact out my life only when I deal with others. I don't need that remembrance and labeling with myself. Let me just sit with myself for some time which is beyond labeling and remembrance. All label, all remembrance is good to interact with the second person and third person, but let me wake up to my first person. There is no technique for this. There is no methodology for this. You just lock everything out and sit. There is no technique for it. There is no method for it. And even the trying, if you try to get have Nirvikalpa Samadhi, you will not fall into Nirvikalpa Samadhi. If you try to have unclutching, you will never be able to unclutch. Know that clutching is not needed. That is unclutching. Know that labeling is not needed, that is non-labeling. Know that remembering is not needed, that is pure non remembering. Know that vigalpa is not needed, that is Nirvikalpa Samadhi. There cannot be a technique for Nirvikalpa Samadhi. There cannot be a technique for unclutching. Clutching is not needed. Labeling is not needed. Remembering is not needed. Rehearsing is not needed. See, when I am going to, when you are going to a celebrity to make up for shooting, preparing that person, you need rehearsing. You need to tell yourself, I have to pick up this product, I have to do this to that person, This has to be done. You need remembrance for that. But you don't need remembrance to be with you. Why do you need remembrance to be with you? Why do you need labelling to be with you? All I am saying is, to be with you, you don't need labelling. To be with you, you don't need this language to be with you. You don't need remembering. That's all I am saying. Decide when I am with me. No need for remembering. No need for labeling. That's all. I give you this boon, not only to you, all those who are listening to this, I give this as an initiation and boon. Just tell yourself, when I am with myself, I don't need to comment on life. Commentary on life is not needed. This constant commentary is not needed. Constant remembrance is not needed. This labeling is not needed. Sit. You are with the pure experience. Nirvikalpa Samadhi. Thank you ma. Kala Devi. I Love you. Blessings.

Participant: Swamiji, the frequency is the matter for cosmos. The cosmos respond to our frequency in that case. As per 96 tattvas, the eight raagaas mentioned, can we consider as a frequency? Swamiji: No. Frequency is much deeper than eight raagaas and 96 tattvas. The naadaatma is much more deeper than this. Even this 96 tattvas and eight raagaas, more grass and matter, it can't be considered, can't be given the same status as a frequency.

Yes, you can unmute the next chitsaba member. I will answer the next Chitsaba member. Go ahead.

Particiant: Swamiji. Is Chith also labeling? Swamiji: Yes. Chith is also labeling. So I am telling you yesterday and day before yesterday, I introduced chith, jata and chit jata granthi. I am not saying chith is right. It is good and it is useful in the society, but not when you sit with you. When you sit, chith also should not be there. Chith is labeling. Chith is remembering. Chith is commentary on the life. Yes. Blessings.

Now I'll have answer Maha Bhavapriya's question. Maha Bhavapriya is asking. She is a Rajasaba member of San Jose, Kailasa San Jose Rajasaba.

Participant: Dear Swamiji, if everything I experience is the dream created by me, then what's the role of the Guru? Is the Guru also my creation within the dream or does he enter the dream from beyond to wake me up? Swamiji: Mahabhava Priya, he enters from beyond but, you are allowing. Listen, there are many who does not allow the guru to enter into their dream. In your case you allowed. So I am also part of your dream but to wake you up. As I already explained, I am the Simha Swapana. I am a Vedantha Simha, Siddhantha Sarabha. The Simha Swapna to wake you up. The last nightmare. After that you will never ever have any dream including life and death. So Maha Bhavapriya, I am also in your dream, but you allowed me to enter into your dream, so I'll wake you up. In Tamil, is a proverb, you know, "yadatha kuduthaa madatha pudipan". If you give me a space, I will remove all your delusion. Here "madam" means the stupidity, delusion, not a place. Blessings, Maha Bhavapriya blessings. Enjoy your Simha Swapna. So you wake up.

Nithyananditha, can you unmute the next Chitsaba member who want to ask questions?

Yes. Maha Govindananda. Please go ahead and blessings, Blessings.

Participant: Thank you, Swamiji. These teachings have been profound. I've been waking up in the middle of the night. You've been waking me up. It's early in the morning here in The UK, and I can't write fast enough and digest fast enough, but I know that they're the most profound truths. I'm getting glimpses of it, Swamiji. I think you're frozen. I think I've lost you. No. Nothing is frozen. You can continue. We can continue. Yes. So my question is, as you wake up to the idea that you are this amazing being and everything is happening the past, present, and future, you know, all at the same time. How do you live with the world that is still not, this is a crazy question, Swamiji, because you do this every day with us that, you know, we're not quite awake, but you're doing it. But my question is for somebody like me, you know, how do you live with people who are not even getting a glimpse of? That is my question. Because it's hard. You want to actually explain it, but it's you don't have the eloquence, the words to do it for somebody else as easily as you have, and they're not ready for it. So how do you live with that is my question, Swamiji? Swamiji: Maha Govindananda, listen. Listen. I am not saying you know, you don't need commentary, labeling, remembering to deal with others. As of now, deal with others with remembering, with commentary, with labeling, all of that. First, when you sit with yourself, decide no labeling, no remembering, no commentary. That is enough. Then, you will know you exist beyond this labeling, remembering commentaries. That is all I want you to know. Experiencer Maha Govindananda is beyond the label Maha Govindananda or Ragini Annan. The label is not you. You are beyond that label, sit without the label, without remembering, without commentary on life. This constant commentary on life is not needed, constant remembering is not needed, constant labeling is not needed when you sit with yourself. First do that. When you are dealing with others, continue to use memory, remembering, labelling and all the things as usual. When you sit with you, just don't have. That's enough. Understand. You see, to deal with second person, third person, you need language, you need labeling, you need commentary, you need remembering, but when you sit with yourself, you don't need language, you don't need remembering, you don't need labeling, you don't need commentaries. Keep all of it out and sit with yourself. That becomes really the most beautiful place you want to be. So you want to retreat to that and not engage. That's the other problem Listen. Listen. Listen. Listen. No. No. No. Listen. Listen. Listen. Then again, again you are you are labeling something inside. Yes. You are labeling something inside. No. Yes. Actually that when you sit, it just starts manifesting in you such a way you continue to handle all this labeling, remembrance, everything, but you are there with your original experiencer space and there will not be any need for retreating this, that, nothing. See, even wanting to retreat and all that is one more tabling, one more commentary, one more remembrance. No. When you deal with this, deal with that, when you finished, sit with you. Just do. There will not be any imbalancing. You will just flow in enlightenment. Participant: Thank you so much, Swamiji. It's so beautiful. Swamiji: Thank you. Thank you. Lovely. I am teaching you the most guarded secret of Kailasa, the truths of Paramaatvaitha. I am bringing the truths of Paramaatvaitha to planet earth to all of you. Participant: I'm so privileged, Swamiji. Thank you so much for having me as your disciple. Thank you. Swamiji: Love you. Blessings. Blessings. Love you. Participant: Thank you, Swamiji. Blessings.

Next question, Ma Nithya Samarpini. She is a Rajasaba member of Kailasa, New York. Ma Nithya Samarpini, Rajasaba member of Kailasa, New York. I'll answer your question.

Participant: Beloved Bhagawan, what makes us continuously slip into unconscious emotional states after periods of conscious and clear about reality? Swamiji: Listen. Listen, Nithya Samarpini, there is nothing called unconscious, conscious other than your labelling, other than your planning to brand again you into something. Stop all branding, remembering and labeling language when you are dealing with yourself. You are an experience, pure experiencer. Stop all labeling, language, branding, remembrance when it comes to you. Then all these you are conscious and falling into unconscious, all these labelling will disappear. As long as you are labelling yourself, you will always label some part of your time as conscious and some part of your time as unconscious. So, Nithya Samarpini drop labelling, drop negative self talk, drop remembrance, drop language when you are sitting with yourself. That's all.

Yes. Nithyananditha, can you unmute next Mukthananda? I think Muktha is also waiting.

And after Mukta, I'll answer Latha Mallaeshapa. I think Latha Mallaeshapa is also waiting. Yes. Mukta, go ahead.

Participant: Hi, Swamiji. Thank you, Swamiji. Love you so much. Thank you for everything. Swamiji, these past few days, everything that Swamiji has been revealing to us, it's been so powerful. I just, I just want at least sit and do that all day, Swamiji. It feels so powerful. Thank you, Swamiji. Swamiji: Muktha, listen. Listen. Even that is one more labeling. Participant: Yes, Swamiji.

Swamiji: Understand, you see the whole day actually you are with yourself whole day. What else? Where else you can be without you?

Participant: Yes, Swamiji.

Swamiji: That, we want to sit with this whole day also is one more labeling, one more remembrance.

Participant: Yes, Swamiji. Yes Swamiji.

Swamiji: You have seen me in close quarters for years. One side you will see my Rudra, Paramarudra's face. Immediately next second, I'll be of Anugraha, Paramashivamurthi. See, have you seen me taking time to slip from this to that?

Participant: No Swamiji. No Swamiji.

Swamiji: Actually, see, one side, somebody I'll be so ferocious in a second when I turn my face to a gurukul child to whom I am initiating or giving powers, a complete Anugraha Swarupi, Sadashiva. All this is a simple flow. There is no such thing as you want to be all the time in yourself as experiencer. I tell you, all I am trying to tell you is use label, language, remembrance, everything with the second person and third person. Don't use any of it with the first person. That's all.

Participant: Yes, Swamiji.

Swamiji: So can you say, I just want to be only with first person, but you are always with first person. How can, how can you be without first person?

Participant: Yes, Swamiji.

Swamiji: So even when you are working with second person and third person, you are with first person?

Participant: Yes, Swamiji.

Swamiji: So understand, even when I am working with second person and third person, I am with first person. So your first person does not need the language, remembrance, labelling, memory, nothing. Your first person, that focal point. I can give you one small idea, but don't make it into a solid visualization. No. You see, how the telescope that I saw now recently in that Hubbling telescope, something you call it? Hubble telescopes. You see. Just see, you, the first person has the Hubble telescope. This whole universe reflects on it. Past comes in that, goes present comes in that and goes future comes in that and goes God comes in that and goes, yourself come in that and goes, world comes in that and goes, all of it. You generate, you remember, you manifest, you label, you brand, you are doing this whole thing. When you sit with yourself, you don't need language, you don't need remembrance, you don't need labeling, you don't need memory. Just sit.

Participant: Yes, Swamiji.

Swamiji: That, that first person when you are able to sit with the same first person retaining its Nirvikalpa Samadhi, it will continue your Sahaja samadhi work relating with the second person and third person. It is not exclusion. Do you understand?

Participant: Yes, Swamiji.

Swamiji: It is not exclusion. Muktha, just understand. If you, if you, you have seen my life and everything.

Participant: Yes, Swamiji.

Swamiji: Do you see my first person is always with me even though I use words labeled everything for the second person and third person? The first person continues to be in samadhi.

Participant: Yes Swamiji.

Swamiji: That is why still I have not become mad for the amount of the stress I am dealing, the amount of things I am dealing. You understand?

Participant: Yes Swamiji. And I am still balanced, sane and running everything happily. It means the first person does not need a separate time to be with first person. Yes, Swamiji. Person needs a separate time to be with first person is one more labeling. Yes, Swamiji.

Swamiji, I have one more question, Swamiji. Participant: When I go when we sit down and try to see who's the experiencer, I'm not able to get past the barrier where the breathe the breathing and the thoughts are coming. Am I the experiencer who is breathing and thoughts are coming or am I separate from that that barrier I'm not able to? Swamiji: Listen, listen, listen, listen. Even that idea thoughts are coming, breathing is happening is one more labelling and remembrance. You are remembering yourself. You are not yourself there. You are remembering yourself. You are remembering as if you are sitting. Understand? You don't need to remember for you to exist.

Participant: Yes, Swamiji.

Swamiji: Understand? You don't need to remember yourself for you to exist. But we are so habituated, addicted to this labeling, not only we can't be without labeling the second person, third person, we started labeling the first person. That is where the whole problem is. You see, listen, labeling second person, third person is not wrong. That is the way life can run. You understand? After label, second person, third person, but with yourself, the first person does not need to be labeled.

Participant: Yes Swamiji.

Swamiji: Unfortunately, you want to recognize even the first person through the labeling.

Participant: Understood, Swamiji.

Swamiji: Understand?

Participant: Understood, Swamiji.

Swamiji: See, in 2009 when you met me first time, 2009 or '8?

Participant: '9, Swamiji.

Swamiji: Yeah. Those days, my satsangs, recollect that exactly precisely, now what I am talking only, I am talking even on those days. Now I learnt better English words, that's all.

Participant: Yes, Swamiji.

Swamiji: Those more Sanskrit, more Tamil, less English word. Now I am using little more English word. Otherwise, there is no difference between the teaching.

Participant: Yes, Swamiji. Understood, Swamiji.

Swamiji: Just go back, the earliest discourse we have published, recorded or published is what we recorded in 2001. sorry, 2000 October we recorded few of my satsangs and available now. Go and see the same truth will be there in broken English. Now I found little better English words. That's all.

Participant: Yes, Swamiji.

Swamiji: So understand, to sit with first person, you don't need a separate time. You don't need to think that I always want to be sitting with the first person. Whole night you are with first person only. Then what more you want? Nothing else.

Participant: Yes, Swamiji.

Swamiji: The whole night decide to be with first person. I see, I tell you, decide you need a separate time to be with first person is also one more branding, one more labelling, one more commentary, one more remembrance, that's all. And this, I can't be without the first person. You understand? See, you can't be without the first person. Let me just be with the first person. Let the labeling of the second person, third person happen. First person no labelling, no memory, no remembrance, no words, no language. Experiencer as experiencer, Not even the word experiencer to denote the experiencer. Understand?

Participant: Understood, Swamiji.

Swamiji: See, Paramashiva is right now sitting in maha kailasa and in you. In you, who is that I alive? Who is moving your body? See, to move your body, you need 1,000 command at least to happen. Do you understand?

Participant: Yes, Swamiji.

Swamiji: Right. At least 1,000 command. But are you are you generating that 1,000 command with your words, with your language?

Participant: No, Swamiji.

Swamiji: Someone who is generating so many commands without language, without remembrance, without memory, without any system, that person is Paramashiva. Understand?

Participant: Understood Swamiji.

Swamiji: Tell me. With the second person and third person, for a second person or third person, to move, he said, how many commands you need to generate verbally? Same amount of commands only you need to generate to move your body, but that is happening without commentary, without remembrance, without verbalization, without words. Who is doing that is Paramashiva. Understand, you are actually Paramashiva. Muktha, the problem is you are saying I can somehow accept Swamiji is Paramashiva but not Mukthananda. That is where you are labeling at that, you see, when you are when you reach the point of where you are breathing and thinking, you want to label. Why should you label? He's Paramashiva. Let him be there. How can you label Paramashiva?

Participant: Yes, Swamiji.

Swamiji: When you see, at least I can say 1,000 times consciously you would have decided in your life, you will not label me. You will not judge me. You cannot understand me. Am I right?

Participant: Yes. Yes, Swamiji. Very clearly, Swamiji.

Swamiji: Same thing decide same thing decide about your first person because I am your first person.

Participant: Yes, Swamiji.

Swamiji: Why you think that your first person you can label? Your first person is as wild as me. I am here showing you in the second person and third person that you can't label me, so understand I am inside you, so you can't label you also. Listen, muktha, anybody who tries to label me, they are destroyed. They lose me. Because I am here to teach, even you can't label you, I am inside you for that only I am here outside you to teach you then don't label you.

Participant: Yes Swamiji. When they label me, they are destroyed. Yes, Swamiji.

Swamiji: You are my disciple means you know there is something exist which you can't label. Your desire, repeated desire to label me is consciously denied by you, only then you can continue to be my disciple. Now do the same thing, deny to label your experiencer.

Participant: Yes, Swamiji.

Swamiji: What I do to Swamiji, I'll do to me. I know I cannot label Swamiji. If the moment I try to label Swamiji, I'll be beaten. So I am accepting Swamiji, I am enjoying Swamiji, I am disciple of Swamiji only because I am not labeling Him. Same way, I am not going to label the first person. That's all, nothing else.

Participant: Yes, Swamiji.

Swamiji: Maybe these English words I am uttering are new, but the truth I am revealing is as old as sun. The English words I am using it as new as sunrise. Understand Muktha see, the truth I am revealing is as old as sun, the English words I am using is as new as sunrise. This Abel telescope example I am giving that may be like a sunrise. But the truth I am revealing is as old as sun. That is why yesterday I explained completely from the Upanishad. "Thvam deghatraya dheethaha", see I spoke many words about quantum physics, many truths from the quantum physics and all that. But the truth is what? Thvam deghatraya dheethaha, thvam kaalatraya dheethaha. Tell me, is there anything in your past, present, future other than remembrance? Are you only your remembrance?

It seems like the remembrance is dominating our experience.

Yes. It may be dominating, but there is someone remembering.

Participant: Yes, Swamiji.

Swamiji: That is why I am saying that someone is beyond these three remembrance. kaalatraya dheethaha. See dominated. Even for getting dominated, somebody has to be there na?

Participant: Yes.

Swamiji: Understand. See, for example, even if I say you are dominated by someone, you are there na?

Participant: Yes, Swamiji.

Swamiji: That's all. Then you understand? So you are dominated by the remembrance, but you are there. So now decide, I will not even use this label, I am dominated by remembrance. Let me just sit without my without any remembrance, let me Aham. See, muktha, if you use you hope I think your inner chattering is always in Tamil. Am I right, muktha, or in English usually?

Participant: English only Swamiji.

Swamiji: You think with yourself in Tamil or English?

Participant: English.

Swamiji: So just say 'I'. That I does not need even the label 'I', does not need the remembrance 'I', does not even need to be labelled as that breathing who is breathing is 'I', who is thinking is 'I'. I give you one more secret that 'I' actually grows and starts dominating second person, third person's memory handling. That's the secret. You understand? When you start with that 'I', that 'I' starts growing in you and occupies your whole body and then it is able to handle second person, third person, memory, remembrance, everything without losing or getting dominated. Now because of that 'I' is too small, small pet baby, like a pet, all the second person, third person, that remembrance of past, present, future are all dominating him. Just when you sit with the 'I', 'I' with more and more, he grows and nobody will be able to dominate him. He runs everything that becomes the Sahaja samadhi. Clear?

Participant: Yes, Swamiji.

Swamiji: Yes. Anything else, Mukta?

Participant: Swamiji, it's Aatma Vidya's birthday today, Swamiji. Requesting blessings for him.

Swamiji: Blessing for Aatma Vidya, birthday blessings and I give you also the blessings. Let you have new birth today. The 'I' in you be born fully without the labeling or remembrance, words, language, nothing. Just pure 'I'. What I name as Paramashiva, Tatastha. Paramashivatvamasi, Paramashivatvamasi, Paramashivatvamasi. Aatma Vidya blessings for you. Blessings for Mukthika. Blessings for Muktha.

Participant: Thank you, Swamiji. Love you, Swamiji.

Swamiji: Blessings. Blessings. Yes. Love you, dear. Love you. Love you, Mukta. Blessings.

Yes. So I'll answer the next question from Rajasaba, then I'll come back to Latha.

And after Latha, I'll move to Sobi. So let me answer a question from Rajasaba. All Rajasaba questions, can you collect one by one? I'll answer.

AashrithyaRam is asking, Participant: Swamiji, when did Rama and Krishna even come? Did they come lakhs of years ago or just a few thousand years ago? Swamiji: AshrithyaRam, they came lakhs of years ago also and few thousand years ago also. Multiple times Rama came, multiple times Krishna came. That's the truth and AashrithyaRam, you are asking science or scriptures. I am saying go beyond both which is original upanishads. Listen our, In our scriptures there is a pure component. The enlightenment science, it is much more pure than science. So the jnana paadha of the scriptures is beyond science and scriptures. That is what I prefer which is pure science and ultimate scripture.

Yes. Next, Latha Malaeshappa. Latha Malaeshappa. Go ahead.

Participant: Thank you, Swamiji. Thank you for giving the opportunity. Can you hear me, Swamiji? Go ahead. This is blessings. Go ahead. Thank you, Swamiji. So, this question might be silly, but I wanted to ask. Some every day we do mistakes. Right? Maybe small or bigger. But sometimes when we are alone, we realize those mistakes. Like, okay. Maybe in argument, I we might utter, like, sharp words to the other party or whatever. When we are alone, we think that and then we realize, okay. I should have been little bit nicer or my words should have been little bit sweeter than sharp words. So in order to realize like that, we need a commentary, right, on ourselves, at least a bit. At least a bit. Okay. Swamiji: Okay. First thing, all questions are silly. All answers are chilli. Understand that. Second, women is always right. So never ever repent or you don't need to do commentary. Women are always right in all argument. Especially married women, you are always right in all arguments. You don't need to do commentary. Don't worry about commentary, self I think whole Kailasa is laughing. I tell you ma, listen. Now, listen. Listen. All experiences of with the second person, third person never gets corrected because you run a commentary with the first person. No. Stop all commentary with the first person and be experience the first person as first person only then, during your action itself you will be so aware you will not make mistakes. See, if you want to make mistakes with the second person and third person and want to correct it, then do the commentary with the first person also. If you stop doing all commentary with the first person, you will not even make mistake with the second person and third person. It is your you see, sometimes you may just want to give a good slap and then later on say sorry, but the sorry is not going to take away the pain, but that is the way you want to treat others, then continue to have commentary with the first person so you can continue to play this game, slap, and after that, ask for apology. Anyhow, he has to he has to say, yes, I accept your sorry. Nothing else can be done. Otherwise, there will be one more slap. If he wants to be alive, so he has to accept your apologies. Oh, don't worry. Understand. Understand, if you want to punish and then apologize and again punish and then apologize, again punish and then apologize, then do continue to do commentary with the first person. But if you want to completely stop the mistake with the second person and third person, Just stop the commentary with the first person. That's all.

Participant: Got it, Swamiji. Thank you so much.

Swamiji: Blessings. I think he has to thank me, not you. I have saved him, actually.

Participant: He's in the office, Swamiji. Tell him, Swamiji. Yes. Tell him to thank me. I owe his thanks now.

Sure, Swamiji. On behalf of him, I'll tell. Thank you, Swamiji, and then I he'll also tell.

Swamiji: Blessings. Blessings.

Participant: Thank you so much, Swamiji.

Swamiji: Blessings. Blessings.

Yes. Next, I'll answer one question from Rajasaba member.

Participant: Kokiladevi santanam is asking, during unclutching and being in a certain state, I hear voices. It is not yours or my voice. Neither are they my mind chattering are the voices of my inner child intuition. Swamiji: Kokiladevi Santanam, all those voices are only your voices. It has gone so deep, you are not able to recognize. That's all. There is no one else can speak from inside you. Clear? Or too much second person, third person has gone into the first person and you forgot that second person, third person has gone so much into the first person, that voice only is coming out. That's all.

Yes. Nithyanandhitha, can you unmute. Next Sobhi? After Sobhi, I'll answer Prasanna. Yes. Sobhi, go ahead.

Nithyanandam Swamiji, I think you unmuted me. Sobhi have dropped.

Prasanna Go ahead. Go ahead.

Participant: Thank you, Swamiji. Swamiji, I just had a very simple question. Like, so, you know, in 2,009 when I came for my first IA, that time you would come in the morning and you would say sit in Upanishad. Just no technique. Nothing. And that time, I used to fall into the deep Samadhi. At that time, I thought that was close to the closest I've experienced in Nirvikalpa Samadhi. Like, such deep state that could not even move my body, like, so in every day. Swamiji: Prasanna, I give you the boon. You will get into the deeper than that state. Understand? You don't even need to label that. You don't need to yearn to get that back. It's within you. I am within you. I'll open that now again. I'll open that treasure for you now again. What else you want? Tell me.

Participant: Nothing else, Swamiji. Just I wanna keep going back to that state when I was when I felt like I was closest to..

Swamiji: No. No. No. Listen. Listen. Listen. Don't even label that was the best and you want to go back. No. No. No. No. No. There is something better than that. I'll open that better than that. Understand? Don't even say you want to go back to that. When you say you want to go back to that, you are again putting a label, putting a branding, you are entering into remembrance. No. Now sit in Upanishad. I am here with you. I'll manifest better than that. I will not give you the same thing same old things. Come on. I am always fresh. Higher truths.

Participant: Yes, Swamiji. That's true.

Swamiji: Understand. So I'll give you the highest.

Participant: Right, Swamiji?

Swamiji: Listen. Remember this. Enlightenment is ultimate, but not final. The ultimate happens again and again and again and again.

Participant: Yes, Swamiji.

Swamiji: Again, next ultimate. Again, next ultimate. Again, next ultimate.

Participant: Yeah. Yes, Swamiji.

Swamiji: That's all. Don't you see it is actually you pack that upanishad experience and put it in the paran. Because wanted to engage with some things. You decided that you have some other priorities. So let this be in paran for some time.

Participant: Yes, Swamiji. Understand.

Swamiji: I'll give you better than that.

Participant: Thank you, Swamiji.

Swamiji: Blessings.

Participant: Thank you, Swamiji.

Swamiji: Blessings.

Swamiji, can I just say one more thing? Yes Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead.

Participant: Swamiji, this is to do with the temple.

Swamiji: You can ask anything you want. All Chitsaba members, if you guys have a list of question also, you can come with list and ask one by one. There is no hurry. We are going to have some three, four hour session. So don't worry. We are going to have a three, four hour session so you can slowly ask one by one. There is no need to be in hurry. You don't need to quickly finish. Go ahead.

Participant: Swamiji, this is for the temple. So during Navratri time, there was a lot of burglaries happening. All the Hindu temples in the Bay Area. They were breaking the hundi, across all temples. I think it was coordinatedly happening. It also happened in the Veda Temple, which is right next door. So I just wanted blessing for our temple to be protected.

Swamiji: Blessings. Thathasthu. Blessings. Blessings. Blessings.

Participant: Thank you, Swamiji.

Swamiji: Yes. Blessings.

Yes. Nithyananditha, can you unmute Sobhi?

Sobhi is waiting for a long time. Yes. Sobhi, blessings. Go ahead.

Participant: Thank you so much, Swamiji. Love you very, very much, and thank you for allowing us to celebrate you with the entire family. And these sessions have been really, really good, especially for the kids, for them to even understand in the simple language. It's been amazing, Swamiji. Thank you for that. Thank you, Swamiji. Thank you, Swamiji. Swamiji: Blessings. Yes. Blessings for all of you.

Yes. Go ahead. Samrat, Lakshmi, Sabes, everyone, your mother, blessings for all of you.

Participant: Thank you, Swamiji. Swamiji, these sessions, I feel, unlike others say, you know, they go into Samadhi, they experience, they can't experience their body, I don't feel any of that. And sometimes I go, you know, why am I not able to feel this, or am I distracted? These questions pop up.

Swamiji: Don't see, don't even don't even try to bring one more label. There is no such a specific thing expected to be experienced by everyone. There is no cookie cutter model. Understand. There is no cookie cutter model. And you have a deep understanding, feeling grateful, that itself shows something is happening in you. So you don't need to think what happens to somebody has to happen to you. No. No need. Clear?

Participant: Thank you, Swamiji. One thing I'm noticing, Swamiji, is I feel it's also the shaktis that we are manifesting, but whatever little tackling that happens, especially related to confusions, simple as, you know, today we want to go out for apple picking. It's Thanksgiving holiday in Canada, and then there was a little bit of churning that was happening in my inner space, or I have other things to take care. My time is going to be taken. But then I see that immediately manifesting something happening, and then we are not able to go. How can I drop those little, you know, doubts or contradicting, conflicting thoughts, Swamiji?

Swamiji: See, first thing, this connecting with this and that, drop that. This labeling, drop that. That is enough, this remembrance will stop. Because you have this labelling, due to this, that is happening. This remembrance is repeating. Drop this labelling, This remembrance will stop. What you are going through is superstition. Understand that.

Participant: Thank you, Swamiji.

Two more questions.

Yes. Go ahead. Go ahead.

Participant: In relation to manifesting, Swamiji, and this is a debate and a discussion, Savesh and I always have. And for me, with your blessings, you know....

Swamiji: The moment you said two more questions, Savesh is smiling. He understands you are going to bring him. Actually, now he knows you are going to get my support for your argument. So Savesh is finished. Savesh knows that is what you are going to do exactly now.

Participant: Swamiji, with manifesting, I always tell him, you know, with Swamiji's blessings and what Swamiji is programming us to do, we are Paramashiva, we can manifest whatever we want, whatever we want to attain, whether it's $100,000,000 projects, whatever it is, let's drop the logic because logic is the one that interferes and brings other questions and complications. Am I correct in saying that Swamiji?

Swamiji: No. No. No. Listen. Listen. Listen. You may you may not be telling the exact whole truth as it is as it is as the situation is or as you are debating to me. First thing, drop all negative self talk, self negative talk and even while you are working, stop the self doubting, self hatred, self denial talks. That is one. Second, listen to this very carefully. In this whole universe, you need to pick up only one thing, your positioning, yourself, everything else universe does. Everything else aligns. Your positioning means you be your stamina, your stamina to go through. Listen, when you are planning for 100,000,000 and when you are deciding to manifest that, have that stamina to go through the ups and downs needed for it. You will surely manifest 100,000,000 but not as you expect. Paramashiva will shower it by giving you the stamina to retain it.

Participant: Thank you Swamiji because that's exactly some of the things that we are experiencing all the turbulence that's happening within the business.

Swamiji: Sobi, listen. I wanted to manifest kailasa, but it did not come immediately like a smooth casual served on the silver platter. No. He made me with a person of stamina. So when he gives, when he has given, I am, admin is able to run it without losing. So I have the stuff, stamina to be a global leader to keep the nation alive, expanding, successful, running and expanding, enriching. Understand. So he gives stamina. When he gives stamina, you think he is hailing you, your manifestation is not happening, something is wrong, all that. No. He is building stamina. Don't you see, even for me, he built a stamina before making Kailasa happen, before giving Kailasa to me. So understand, all of you learn this truth. What you want will be given, not as you want, as he wants. He will give you the stamina, strength. If you want peace, don't think you will just serve the peace with a in a platter. No. He will make your being so strong, not everything becomes irrelevant and you are peaceful. So anything you want, he will shower in his way, not in our way. You can ask anything you want, but you can't put condition. Understand, he is building stamina. Never doubt this manifesting science. The science is true. He is just building stamina. I protected Sabesh and you both. I did not support you and give more stuff, more argument, more points for you to handle Sabesh.

Participant: Swamiji, it's been an amazing journey ever since we came and landed at your feet. And with the family, everything, it's been amazing. Thank you. And we want to inspire many people with our life and the family the way how we are celebrating with the family.

Swamiji: Blessings. So we any other question? You told two more question.

Participant: One more question, Swamiji. It's a blessing, and I have a question for Lakshmi to give her some clarity. One is that Sabesha and I are going through the acharya training for Kalpataru. Please bless us to be great kalpataru acharyas and help others experience completion.

Swamiji: Sabesh, sabesh, listen. This point you need to tell in Kalpataru, anything they want, they will be blessed. It is 100% guarantee. But Paramashiva will give in his way, not the way they expect. Tell this truth to everyone in Kalpataru. Blessings, Sabesh.

Participant: Thank you, Swamiji. For Lakshmi, lately, they are having a lot of discussions. I know it's teenage, and, you know they're going through their own churning. Her question has always been why so much of inequalities among men and women? As a woman, know, tell her like certain things a girl can't do. And she gets very upset and irritated even when we say, you know, during your period time, you shouldn't be going to the temple and doing stuff. And she goes, why is that? You know, why so much of discrimination? Can you please give us some clarity, Swamiji?

Swamiji: Yes. Ma. Ma, I'll explain. Listen. Lakshmi, during the periods time, you go through mood swings. The decisions you make during that time, you yourself will repent after few days. That is why in Hindu tradition, you are asked just rest that three days. Do not, actually in Kailasa, made a rule. Others should not even see you that three days.

Participant: But Swamiji, when we have school and, like, other commitments, what do we do during those three days?

Swamiji: Of course. No. No. You see what I am that is why I'm saying, no. I cannot make that rule in your country. But in our days when we grew up with that pure Hindu society, the child or anyone who is having the periods, they will be made to live in another room inside the house itself, nobody will enter that room, food will be supplied, they will rest for three days. Now you don't have that luxury but at least reduce all your activity and decision making. I tell you, women are made to make decisions and work during that three days so they can be constantly put in guilt and controlled remaining twenty seven days. If women are liberated from making decisions and work in that three days, they will excel 100 times more than men. So men are afraid. The modern society, modern society, men are afraid of women, so they want to keep women in guilt created by women and these guys can constantly point their finger, so they are making women to make decision and work during that three days.

Participant: But Swamiji, thank you for that clarity that you are giving her, but I noticed that when she talks about this inequality, it's almost like she came with that karma. She goes into so much of rage, so much of upsetness. You know it's not just about the period like you know it could be about her friends or the way how the boys are behaving, all kind of stuff. Why is that Swamiji if he can give her that clarity? I want her to stop suffering.

Swamiji: I will send her two books. Let her read. Then she will understand she is unique. When she understands she is unique, she will not compare herself with that small chotu men. Hey, Lakshmi, just look around. Look around. See, in so many of the time in the in your meetings with me, have you ever seen Sabesh or Samrat speaking to me? Come on. Let's come to the practical. And it may be 1% negligible, 1% negligible. Only you and Sobhi will be the first, and at the most, if at all, second, it will be Lakshmi. Don't you see? Men are poor creatures. Ma, allow them to exist.

Participant: Love you, Swamiji.

Swamiji: No. I'll send you now. I'll send you a book, understand your uniqueness, then you will not have this problem. If you understand your uniqueness, you will not have this problem. Understand. So I'll send you the book. That will that will only give you the clarity because this subject is such big. I can't handle it just in one session, in one question or one answer. I've already now I know in my mind which book I have to send you. I'll send you that book. Read. You will understand you are unique and then you will understand you don't need to compete with men and you will see that, They are there, poor fellows. Let them let them also be part of the universe. Just leave it. Let them also have a little space. Leave it. That's all.

Participant: Lovely, Swamiji. Thank you so much.

Swamiji: Blessings. Love you. Love you. Blessings. Blessings, dear. Blessings.

Yes. Tripura Sundari, she is the parliamentarian of Kailasa, Los Angeles. Kailasa, Los Angeles parliamentarian. Tripura Sundari is asking,

Participant: Dear Swamiji, when even when we understand and get a glimpse of our first person as Paramashiva and realize we are the see seer and the seen, why is it difficult to stay in that in this place and live enlightened? Swamiji: Tripura sundari, listen. When you get the glimpse, you are enlightened. When you try to remember it, you lost it. Stop remembering enlightenment. Stop remembering stop labeling enlightenment. Stop memorizing enlightenment. Stop bringing enlightenment into memory. Stop bringing enlightenment into language. Stop bringing enlightenment into your dialogue. Stop bringing enlightenment as a remembrance. When you try to bring it as a remembrance, when you try to comment, when you try to bring it as a memory, you lose it. Tripura Sundari, you understand? Stop using language for it, you will not lose it. When you use language, you lose it.

Yes. Now next, muktika. Go ahead. Unmute, muktika.

Participant: Pranams, Swamiji.

Swamiji: Blessings. Go ahead. Go ahead.

Participant: Thank you so much, Swamiji. We've you know, I always tell people the story of how, you know, we met or what it took for us to meet and, you know, get to be in your presence. You know, in 2004, when you had come to Seattle, we were invited by Anandi and her family to come and meet you. And, I tell people saying, look at how things are. We said, oh, you know, we're not looking for a guru. It's okay. And we missed at the time. But then it almost felt like you came and you pulled us in, you brought us into this space. And, I still remember when you came home in 2009, and you came, you blessed everybody, you blessed the house and you did the aarti and you said, you know, this is our people, this is their mine. And so that was it was so fulfilling that, you know, we don't miss, we don't forget any of your words. So thank you so much, Swamiji. You are my everything. I cannot put into words anymore. I've always the first book of yours that I read was "Rising in Love with the Master" and I could not put that book down. It was amazing. From then onwards, ever since I've met, the only space that has come up is just being in Upanishad with you. That's it. Mukta is the one with all the words and the questions. And I'm the one who has felt so comfortable being in that space of silence and enjoying your presence. So this is how I've always held myself. So the question now is, you know, I've asked before also saying, what was who were you to me or who was I am I to you in my past? And I remember during the Kailash Yatra, you thought and you said, you will learn about it. You will you will know about it in a vision. So I'm still waiting for that vision.

Swamiji: Listen. What our relationship. Forget about what was what it was in past life. Find out what is in present. In present what it is. Find out that.

Participant: Yes, Swamiji.

Swamiji: Present you and me. You, me. Me, you. I don't even want to give more words. You sit with your first person without any words, without remembrance, without any language. Listen, I am inside your first person.

Yes.

So speak with your first person. I am never your second person or third person. I am your first person deeper than your own self. I am the first person of your first person. Understand, you see, sometime you allow the second person and third person to enter into your first person. But I am in your first person where nobody else can enter. So just sit with that first person without word, memory, remembering, commentary, language, just sit, you will see the relationship between you and me in your first person. That is the truth.

Participant: Thank you Swamiji

Swamiji: That's not vision or visualization or wish. It is truth.

Participant: So on this, Swamiji, I wanted to ask, like, we've you've given us the initiation of, you know, instant, like, enlightenment, the ultimate. So how do I know that I am experiencing that ultimate that enlightenment and liberation?

Swamiji: See, just start living it without commentary, without words, without remembrance, without even judging whether I achieved or not. There is no monitor, there is no thermometer, there is no measurement unit. Understand? Just live start living these truths. That's all. Start living these truths. Everyone around you will feel. They will feel you are living enlightenment and you don't even need to bother about it. Live it not because others will recognize are you nothing. Live it because it is truth. That's all. This is the truth. That's all. See, I am living as Paramashiva not to be recognized, worshipped, respected. See, I go through so much, but I am living it because that is the truth. That's all.

Participant: Yes, Swamiji.

Swamiji: That's it.

Participant: So, Swamiji, for I just wanted to seek your blessings, you know, for all the volunteers and the sangha. There are so many who have, you know

Swamiji: Yes. Thathaasthu. Kailasa, Los Angeles.

Participant: It's going to be our twenty second anniversary for Kailasa USA, and we wanted everybody to experience their ultimate, Swamiji.

Swamiji: No. No. No. 2003 Kailasa, Los Angeles was started. It means it is more than that twenty five now 2025 means how many years now? Twenty two years, Swamiji. More than twenty two years. Is it not twenty three years? '22. We finished twenty two years. So that's they say twenty two.

Then, Twenty three years. Yes. Great. Blessings. Blessings.

Participants: Swamiji, I want all of them to come experience and generations and generations from their families to connect evolve and be part of the sanga Swamiji.

Swamiji: Thathaasthu, Thathaasthu, Thathaasthu. Blessings.

Participant: Thank You So much Swamiji.

Swamiji: Blessings. Blessings Aatma vidya, Blessings. Love You. Birthday Blessings. Aatma Vidya and one hug.

Participant: Thank you Swamiji.

Swamiji: Blessings to all of you.

Yes. Now I'll go to Rajasaba. There is a Rajasaba question.

Shri Shivangnana Swarupa is parliamentarian of Kailasa, Canada is parliamentarian of Kailasa, Canada. He is asking from Kailasa, Toronto, Kailasa, Canada. He is asking, Participant: Swamiji, when you saying sit with myself as Sri Shivangnana Swarupananda, As I am saying, live in the present with no judgment. Swamiji: Listen, listen. I am not asking you to sit with Sri Shivangnana Swarupananda as yourself. No. Sit with you as you. "I". Even Sri Shivangnana Swarupananda is one more label. I am not asking you to sit with that. When you sit with "I", you become Sri Shivangnana Swarupananda. The name I gave you is not noun, it is verb. You will be becoming. Nithya is not noun, it is a verb. So, Shri nitya Shivangnana Swarupananda is not a name, it is a verb. It's not a noun, it's a verb. That's all.

Yes. Now, Baskarananda. Can you unmute Baskarananda ma? I'll answer Baskarananda.

Baskarananda, Love you. Blessings. Go ahead.

Participant: Nithyanandam. Loving Swamiji. Swamiji, with the first person, not to label, not to remember, not to talk. It means, Swamiji, stop the inner chattering?

Swamiji: No. No. No. Can you be little loud? Ask ask.

Participant: Yes, Swamiji. Not to remember or not to label, not to talk to that first person, just to be first person means that, Swamiji, not to have inner chatter or what?

Swamiji: Yes. That is exactly I'm saying. You see, when you sit with yourself, no inner chatter.

Participant: Okay, Swamiji. Thank you, Swamiji. And also, Swamiji, I am Paramashiva, and it is true. Intellectually, I understand. 100%, I trust because I believe I mean, my heart accept is Swamiji saying. Why I'm not experiencing it, Swamiji?

Swamiji: See, listen. You are trying to again label, if I am Paramashiva, this, this, this has to happen. This, this, this kind of experience has to come. Again, are trying to remember your Paramashiva, you are not sitting as Paramashiva, you are not being as Paramashiva, you are trying to remember you are Paramashiva, you try to brand yourself as Paramashiva, you are trying to memorize you are Paramashiva, you are trying to talk or make it as a one more like a identity for you as Paramashiva.

Be the true "I". You are Paramashiva.

Participant: Thank you, Swamiji. Thank you.

Blessings. Blessings. Blessings. So I think it's already time. It is we have crossed the time more than the time we marked. So with this, we will have tomorrow again sessions. We will have question and answers. Today many of the Chitsaba members are waiting Manjunath Mahalingappa, Nirmala Sivaji, Sharmila Rajendran, Ma Hanshri, Divyananda. You guys can come tomorrow, will answer. We will have everyday session. Tomorrow I will answer. Manjunath, don't miss. Tomorrow come. Your wife got lot of weapons and equipments and tools from me, so be careful. Better come tomorrow and equip yourself. Blessings. Blessings for all of you. So tomorrow again we will have session. I will answer your questions and all those who are watching through YouTube and all the e-citizens, blessings for all of you, all of you manifest the ultimate You, the true You. Paramashiva. Tatvamasi. Paramashivatvamasi.

I bless you all with paramaadvaita. So I strongly recommend all those who want to experience these truths. This, please come attend Paramashivasena. I welcome all of you to come and experience these truths in Paramashivasena program which is happening every month in Saint Kitts & Nevis and in India, Kailasa Tiruvannamalai and Kailasa Bangalore, Kailasa Kashi. Blessings to all of you. Blessings.