“I’ll answer few of these questions and give you little more clarity…”
I’ll answer few of these questions and give you little more clarity about death... and what happens exactly during death. Let Me describe exactly what happens during death. As I was telling, a normal man when he dies, he relaxes from the first level body, second level body and goes through all those engrams, sufferings. The moment he comes out of the Cosmic body, immediately he can’t be without body. He feels so much of restlessness... missing. So immediately within 3 kshana... kshana means not just 3 second. Please understand. The maximum gap he enjoyed between one thought and the other thought in his lifetime is kshana. The maximum... even, even if once you have enjoyed without having any thoughts half an hour or one hour - that half an hour becomes your kshana. That is why in the life, at least once in a while you should have that meditation. Even once if you have enjoyed, your...the maximum gap...the maximum gap you have enjoyed in your life between one thought and the other thought, is your kshana.
So 3 kshana... if your kshana is one hour - 3 hour you can wait. Sometimes your kshana can be even 2-3 days. So... but if you have lived a restless life, your kshana can be microsecond; immediately you will assume the body... just you will jump in and take the next body... whatever, wherever available, ready. Just immediately the birth will happen. This is the way, birth happens. This is the way it happens as on now, means the...now this is the procedure. Earlier maybe the different procedures were followed, but consciously I sat and meditated - this is the procedure. If you have any doubt about this, I’ll answer.
Swami….
I am not able to read, what to do….more than next word….Gaya...who? Can you tell your question? ..will….then I can read now. Will we be able to facilitate people transitioning in the way….oh, transitioning in the way?...transitioning in the way you do….
See, the transition happens in a very short time. So only a person with body, if he comes to Me, I’ll be able to help. I can say, if he connects with Me when he is in the body, I’ll be able to help when he has left. If it is a new, I’ll be able to help to a certain extent. I can reduce the pain and that kind of things, not more than that; because that life, individual life itself may not allow or trust. If I am physically there in the...where the death is happening, then it is possible. For example, if somebody is dying or dead few days before, I can reduce the pain and only basic things I’ll be able to do, not like liberation...to that extent, because the individual soul also need to cooperate with Me.
You explained the process of death….
But lot of peace can be brought on that soul.
You explained the process of death as it happens gradually. What happens to soul whose body dies instantly as in the case of an accident.
No, even if somebody is having accident, from first body they will leave, but otherwise the procedure is same only. From the second body and all those things, procedure is same. Even...instant death means what? You were….you know he is dead, but it’s not that he is dead. Physically dead, clinically dead, but the process continues.
I have heard some claims, that they often get stuck here as ghost, not realizing they have died?
No, no, no, they know they are dead, but they will be ghost.
Yesterday you mentioned that the soul descends by the moment of the umbilical cord at the time of birth. For one person or rather I envisioned that soul descends into the child via the soft spot of the sahasrara….
See, through which spot I also...there is nothing like a spot. The whole body is engulfed. When the umbilical cord moves, that is the time it enters. The...it’s...it encovers…. encompasses as a whole body. So you can tell from the foot, from the head, from the navel, anywhere you can tell. That is not a problem, but it enters.
Is this my imagination...the experience you witnessed the first death next to the senior monk’s bed, is this what one calls maranavali?.....vali…..
Yes, that is the death pain. It is same.
The second death you witnessed, could it be the...that your Presence generated that magnetic field for the soul to draw itself into nirvanic body.
Yes, that’s what I am telling. My Presence only generated that intense field, what you call Buddha field or Shiva field.
Why would a soul that achieves nirvanic level decide to take birth again? Doesn’t it lose all attachment to earthly existence?
It loses all attachment; as a play it happens, as a overflowing energy it happens.
Is it to again realize Enlightenment in the next birth?
No, no, no, no, it has Realized. There is nothing...it’s like overflowing play.
Is the mind associated with the body and all its engraved memories or is the mind a part of individual soul?
I can say... mind is the totality of individual soul and the engrams. These 2 put together.
If when we die, you’ll bring us to Enlightenment, what is the use of all other chitta-mutta things? Who put the question?
Understand. Once this technology is installed in you, this peacemaker is installed in you, during death surely you’ll...I’ll be there, I’ll take care. But why I want you to continuously meditate you know - during the life itself will be blissful. If you just go through this technology, your death will be blissful, assured - death insurance. If you continue to meditate and live, it will be life insurance; life itself will be joyful. And I am not doing any chitta-mutta things na! What do you mean by the word ‘chitta-mutta’ things? Oh God! It... it helps you to….actually meditation is nothing but reminding you to feel connected. That is why, nothing else. If you feel connected just by remembering, if you have this confidence, you feel that confidence in you, you are feeling connected, then no need for any meditation, that itself is a meditation. When that does not happen in the initial level, only then...meditation is not a blessing, it’s a curse that you are not feeling connected...still you are not feeling connected. Once you feel connected... then no need.
Ganga water is enough. I think you guys should not put that tulasi leaf on the…
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See, which sense you are strongly established, through that sense prana goes out - it is a traditional belief; but I did not see in that death like that. It’s like a whole thing moves out. That’s all. It’s like a journey. And it’s not that immediately after your body leaves, your individual soul leaves from the body, journey is ended - it goes through other 6 more bodies. So, I don’t see directly any help by putting the tulasi. Maybe the Ganga water may help. Putting tulasi only, reduces the time. No, these old people, they will not leave; so much of attachment with that land, property and everything and these guys are in a urgent, very urgent. “Eh, chalo, get up!” And in Bharat, another one problem is, these fellows, till the moment of death, they will be sitting on the property. I have seen! My grandfather and all! So much of wealth and this guy was sitting on a property till the last day he was going to the shop. What will the kids do? They also need to enjoy. And so put tulasi water and…… “tulasi water is not enjoyment for you - enjoyment for us and chalo pack up!” In Bharat, that is a big problem. If you are an Bharatn more than 60, don’t sit on property. Otherwise they will pour tulasi water. So after 60, take vanaprastha and hand over the properties to the kids. Let them live and you have a particular share for you. And after you, let it go to some temple or spiritual activity, give it and now itself live happily. Otherwise you are waiting for tulasi water.
What’s the significance of last rites performed after death?
It gives a kind of farewell to the energy. You see, the soul itself will move within 3 kshana to the next body; but the karma baggage, luggage to get moved, it takes 13 days. That is why the 13 day rites - the luggage moving. So you just keep all the place, everything sacred and help that jeeva, the luggage to move, help that soul. And not only that, when your father or mother dies, part of you is dead. So you also need to get healed. That is why those karmas. Those karmas heals the person, whose relative is dead and the same way, the soul which is travelling to take their baggage, bag and baggage. That is why the ritual performed every year is directly to heal you. Every year ritual and all, doesn’t touch the soul. That soul is already travelling and he has become somebody’s son or daughter or… He has forgotten you completely. Yes?…. Shraddhas in….? About that only I am talking. About that only I told. Every year shraddha heals you, but the rituals you do immediately after death heals the person who is dead.
In the case of multiple births as twins or triplets, each body….camping….sorry…each body come in their own soul. What did you mean? Who put the question? What is the…
Each body carrying….yes, yes, each body will have its own soul. One soul cannot enter into 2-3 bodies. No, no…..
Can you please explain the rituals that are done after death?
I have explained already.
Is it one curtain on which things of this world are happening?
Yes.
When I am looking through the eyes and asking - who is looking - what I am seeing is becoming One with me.
That’s right. The seer and the ‘seen’, becoming One with….you are in the right track. You are having right experience.
Gives me as if the ‘seen’ is not separate from the one who is watching. In fact, there is no gap, but the projection of what I am seeing on myself.
Right, you are right, you are awakening. You are having the inner awakening.
I want to know why Prarabdha….I want to know my Prarabdha, would you please tell me - Kavya.
Ask in the energy darshan.
Nirvana stage, taking conscious birth...is there still that strong connection to you?
Even if you take Nirvana stage and Conscious Birth, you will have a strong connection naturally with Me; you are connected. Only at that time the connection will be very strong and deep.
When we are alive, is it possible to experience 7 layers consciously?
You can experience. You will experience in these 4 days... consciously.
Do souls normally…..
You are experiencing your 7 layers even now. Be very clear, the layer which you know as a skin - this is first layer. If you are breathing - second layer. Your thinking - third layer. Your emotion - fourth layer. Your rest - fifth layer. Your joy - sixth layer. The seventh layer is unknown to you, you have not experienced it. But six layers are known directly to you. What you think, as if I am proposing some theory. I am not proposing any theory. I am directly working on you! Shivaranjani…. You understood?
Do souls normally choose where and whom they are born or is it random?
Souls choose, but they don’t have much time, so they have to quickly choose. Yoga prasthas, they have lot of time. I waited for 300 years to take this body. This body and last body, the time gap as per your calendar...your calendar time is 300 years.
Sorry for this silly question. All questions are silly! ☺ How does all this change or become part of the whole, if cesarian births or test tube babies.
During that time of birth, the prana...the Cosmic prana when it touches, the soul enters. That’s all.
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No, no, no, even then the….when the soul enters into the body, that like a pressure. That coma….
The individual…...
and more over, disconnection from the mother - that also puts the child into coma, unconsciousness.
The individual soul is struck in the lower bodies, how long will this period last?
That is based on how you...how aware. It’s a process, evolution process.
What’s the remedy for this soul? Also can you...can you…...what is….can you share some term for all the 7 bodies?
Sthula Sharira, Prana Sharira, Mana Sharira, Sukshma Sharira, Karana Sharira, Atma Sharira, Nirvana Sharira.
Some people come with physical diseases while taking birth, is this prarabdha karma? What about people getting diseases during their life? Say at the age 18, is this acquired karma?
It’s together. Only when I see the individual, I’ll be able to answer this question. It’s too common, too generalized.
In the West, people are kept on respirators and pacemakers. When does the soul leave them?
As far as I understand, people should be given all possible supports. Only when the prana settles down, the soul leaves the body. So people should be given all medical support, because the last karma, if it is not exhausted, they may have to take one more birth and live for 2-3 days and die; so better to give support now itself. So that they will finish it off and go. So... medical care should be given. You see, if somebody is under medical care, when that prana settles down, when that body becomes completely dead and there is no….not even a prana movement, only at that moment the soul starts leaving. You understand?
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Machine is working but body is cooperating na. After some time, even if the machine is working, body doesn’t cooperate. You understand. So after some time, even if the machine is working, body doesn’t cooperate. As long as body is cooperating, they are alive.
Please advise how and why out of body experience happens? Is there such a thing as OBE?
Out of body experience exists. Unknowingly if you get unclutched, it happens.
All the people have this doubt. What was your past birth? Am I connected to you in your past birth?
This is this doubt, I can say, million dollar question. And everybody thinks, that they have been disciple for Me, for janmas and they have come back again and somehow they want to confirm the depth of relationship. And especially these ashramites .... I tell them, “First try to develop the relationship in this janma... properly.” And before that, these guys go on asking, “What I was that janma, this janma, that janma.” Even if you have been connected with Me in the past janma means, you have not become enlightened in that janma itself, you have not used Me properly, that’s why you have come back. So now use properly.
Once we are enlightened, will people who leave the body in our presence also be able to experience peaceful transition.
Yes. If you are radiating Enlightenment, wherever you see people leaving the body, just be there. Your presence is enough, will heal that body tremendously, will heal that Being tremendously. Not only for a dead person, even for a living people your presence will be such a big healing. You’ll just be radiating. You’ll just be radiating a different kind of energy.
Please elaborate how you saw jeeva atma, how did you see desires, guilt etc.?
You can’t….any visualization I give you’ll catch it. I don’t want to give any visualization.
Will take Yoga Prastha birth, do Bhagavata in full…..with great music?
Oh God! Now itself you have planned for next birth itself. Why do you want to come more once….come back once more and do that job? Now itself start; that’s all.
How many births does a terrorist soul or any evil soul suffer?
Depends on the...the depth of the mental setup, but especially with terrorist fellows...terrorist fellows and murderers, all these guys, they live a very low conscious life. They become stones and all. They become stone sometime and stay for eternity. And…..
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See, money corruption never gets recorded. Money corruption doesn’t get recorded. Money has no value na. But the decisions which they make, the side effect, aftermath of that decision touches them. That touches them. But money itself, whether you have this much money, this much money, it doesn’t….in Existence money has no value.
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Maybe that decision, that suffering gets recorded. That suffering gets recorded. But the money itself doesn’t get recorded. The amount doesn’t get recorded. You see, if somebody takes….somebody bags million dollar or billion dollar, there is no punishment, but how many people they cause suffering has punishment. If you take it from one guy billion dollar - no punishment. Less punishment, I can say! The amount itself doesn’t get recorded. Because in the Cosmos, where is the question of money and all those things. These are just arrangement we made, the exchange we made.
Swamiji, when you talk about murderers, is it the person that they killed suffers….because some of these people they don’t….
No, no, person who kills suffers, not the killed. The killed has the usual journey; he has to wait for that 30-40 years till he takes the next body. Who kills - suffers.
Could you please explain about the mummy in pyramids?
They are just bodies. There is no spirituality in that. One thing, please understand. If the body, when he was living, if he was radiating amazing energy - an Enlightened being... His body should be preserved; because that body can continue to radiate the energy because of that bio-memory. If he is an unenlightened body, the body should be burnt immediately, as early as possible it should be disposed. It should be burnt, that is why in Bharat, in Hindu tradition, all unenlightened people will be burnt immediately. All Enlightened Masters will have a huge temple. Beautiful temple will be built. You see, Master is a rare flower you see. These are all rare flowers happening on the Planet Earth. It should be used to maximum, to optimum.
He was burned….
No he himself decided. Sometime they decide. You see, like a….doing ritual in the banks of Ganges in Ahmedabad. It’s a tradition in their family. He never took Sannyas, so he followed the family tradition. He said it seems that, “I never took Sannyas, so I am… I belong to that family, do as the family custom.” Otherwise, I really felt very bad when I heard that body was burnt. It should have been preserved and the temple should have been built. These Masters...the big problem with Bharat Masters, especially these Hindu Masters, they don’t think about the future at all. They think, because they achieved the eternity inside, they become Enlightened, they don’t bother, they don’t dictate, they don’t tell the disciples,” Aye… They don’t plan properly. No, they are going to be eternal, in the eternity, no doubt, but body could have been kept properly so that the generation will use, next generation will use. It’s such a big gift. It’s the land where Enlightenment has happened. It’s a tree in which the Enlightenment fruit has happened. So it can be used in a much better way.
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That’s another one problem. Ramakrishna’s was burnt because the fight between the householder disciples and sannyas disciples. All the householders claimed, “He is a householder, so rituals should be done like a householder”. Swamis they claimed, “No, He is a Sannyasi.” But the fight was there.... a big problem. Then finally, Sannyasis did not have wealth under in their control, those days. They didn’t have wealth. All small boys, so these grihasthas are all well known and well established, they took over and did the cremation. Okay.
These guys don’t think properly before itself; that is why I clearly made everything now itself. Body belongs to Bharat and it should be in Bharatn temple, everything should be done as per the Vedic tradition, everything I made it very clear. You see, I know for sure I am going to live long in this body. That does not mean, now itself I will not give the instruction. The instruction should be clear, so that it will be useful to the society. Even now, why am I carrying this body... because it is useful to the society. So even after leave, let it be useful to the society. Let 1000s of people be helped. You see, an Enlightened master’s body is equal to a spiritual atomic energy centre; it’s a spiritual atomic station. An atomic energy station, how much of energy explosion happens, just like that, you don’t know every moment Big Bang is happening in this body. I am just balancing and managing it, living in it. So even after I leave the body, let the Big Bang continue. Let that energy radiation continue. Let 1000s of people be helped and served. And same way with Osho; these guys have burnt it immediately!! They were afraid, some of the disciples, they don’t want to make a temple or memorial for him. They thought it will become one more religion. What is there? What is the wrong? These fools don’t know the value of the Enlightened Master’s body. Alright…..what to do?! Sometime there are some traditional things which are really good, maintaining. Mummies, if they are Enlightened person’s mummies, then it will radiate energy, otherwise it has no use - except archaeological use.
Their bodies are preserved, what happens to the soul?
No, no, no, soul just takes its own journey. Who put the question?
You said, ‘violence in any form is sin’. What about fighting and killing for country?
Yes, yes, yes, no country. All these things are nonsense created by politicians. Understand. There are no boundaries in the Planet Earth. God created Planet Earth and you created boundary. Relax from all the ideas of country. Even if you kill for country, it’s a sin. People think that a...the country thing is like Enlightenment. Nothing to do with it - relax.
In the case of Parashurama, Mahabharata everything, including Arjuna, the fellow has to suffer. May be I can say, it was the Krishna’s mission, He wants to reduce the weight of the Planet Earth. He wants to erase it. If He….because Arjuna was the instrument in the hand of Krishna, he may not suffer. Other than that, everything else is sin and gets recorded. I think that is why Krishna was training Arjuna. Even at the last moment, when Arjuna doesn’t want, Krishna says, “No, do it.”; because the mission needs to be completed. So may be Arjuna is exempted. He is a part of the mission of the great Master.
In the morning just sitting time, I started getting the sensation in my lower back around muladhara….
That’s why; when you just sit, the strong Presence will start connecting with each other... your presence and My presence.
Which started moving up, it was in the back lower than in anahata, started thanking you intensely for this experience, suddenly the sensation started in sahasrara area…
It’s a wonderful experience - awakening of the kundalini, no doubt. Naveen - good.
Is it Shiva Linga darshan towards energy darshan we were dancing and praying for you to join us. Then curtain started closing, sat down doing namaskar. My eyes closed, suddenly in my front I saw big Shiva Lingam in black granite, full size with dim orange light in the back, could not get up and continued enjoying for a long time even while Swami Medha was talking….
Good, good. The breakthroughs are happening continuously. Understand. You are in front of a intense spiritual atomic energy station. So anything may happen. The continuous Big Bang is happening. One stone touching you is enough for what needs to be done.
You said ‘when the individual soul reaches the Cosmic body, it decides to live in a new body’. But how can the individual soul reach the Nirvanic body?
When there is no engram it reaches nirvanic body, otherwise it turns back from the Cosmic body. Rohan - you understood? You understood what I said now? If there are no engrams it goes to nirvanic body. Engrams – means, the mental prints. If there are mental prints, it comes back.
Why do so many Enlightened Masters take birth in Bharat, when the entire world needs them?
Bharat is the land prepared for Enlightenment. This whole country stood for mukti. This civilization is standing for mukti. That is why I have little love for this country; otherwise not as a country. You see, I don’t...I am not...I don’t have love to this country geographically. As consciously, this country, this civilization has stood for Enlightenment. And this is the only civilization which can continue to produce Enlightened Beings. Can you imagine, 17 year old boy, from 17 to 25 was his age, did not do any work, did not study and he is given food, cloth, shelter with respect. In which country it will happen except in Bharat? My life! 17 to 25, the cream of the life is youth. I neither studied nor did any job in that age. If I was in USA and I say, “I will not work and I will not study”, either I would have been put in the shelter or in the road. I would have been a homeless or I’ll be put in the shelter, given all psychological treatment. No really! ☺ Understand. How I would have been treated. They will think, “This guy has gone crazy and he is not….” I am not...I wouldn’t have been accepted; so much of psychological torture I would have gone through. Even if I was given a food, shelter, clothes - it wouldn’t have come with a respect. See, this country, 17 year old man, and he says, “I will not work for the society and I will not study to work for the society.” Studying is also what? A promise.... “I’ll study now and then contribute to the society.” And nobody bothered and nobody disrespected Me. I was given food, shelter, clothes, everything with respect. Which country will do this job? And not only Me, 1000s like Me. I want you to understand one important Truth. Bharat has...you see, the full time dedicated priest, monks, nuns, the Hinduism has three times more than Christianity... but Christianity population is more than 60%.
You see, the population wise, they are 3 times more... but the full time dedicated priests, monks and nuns, Bharat has 3 times more. The Hinduism has 3 times more priests, monks and nuns than Christianity. Then understand the amount of people dedicated their life to Hindu tradi...the spirituality. In many Western countries, the people who have become monks, nuns, are considered like parasites. But here, they are treated, they are taken care, because this whole country stands for Spiritual Realization, Mukti, Enlightenment. This whole civilization stands for that one Truth. Go to Bharatn villages, you will see...I’ll take you to My native place. You’ll be shocked the small, small villages where their houses will be out of thatched hut and ordinary tiles, but the temple will be stone. Still there are many cities in Bharat, where they will not built bigger buildings than the temple. In My city and Madurai and Palani, in so many places, it is banned as a rule. You cannot build a bigger building than the temple. You cannot raise your house, taller than the temple. Still it is there.
So understand, this whole civilization stood for that one Truth - Enlightenment. That is why, this is a very conducive for this Enlightened Beings to land. I always tell people like a...when the premature birth happens, you put the baby in the incubator to take care of the baby.... the baby needs some care for it to become matured and survive. Same way, for an Enlightened Being to land in the Planet Earth and again realize that he is Enlightened and to stand up, at that time, till that 10 - 20 years, he needs a kind of a care, he needs a kind of support, like a spiritual incubator, he needs a spiritual incubator. Bharat is a spiritual incubator. That is why continuously souls are landing here. Souls are landing here. This civilization stood for Enlightenment. This whole civilization stood for mukti.
And you will be surprised, if you see this...around this village, these guys will be in poverty. But first harvestment, anything they harvest, any grain or anything, first share they will bring it to this Banyan Tree or to our temple. Sometime I’ll tell them, “Do offering and give it back to them.” But they won’t take it back! They will feel hurt, “No, first share goes to Him.” First share goes to the Divine. See, the whole country is trained; for 1000s of years, we stood for this one idea - the Enlightenment, Mukti. Whether wealth or everything, everything comes next. First comes the Enlightenment.
I have seen, even in the travelling all over the world, even in sharing, nothing like Bharatn villages, I am telling you honestly; if they have one rupee, they will give 80 paise. Only for that day expense, they will keep 20 paise. But it’s not like...when I...I travel all over the world, not in the developed countries...the developed countries, if they have million dollar, they will think 10 times to write 2-3 dollar, give a 2-3 dollar, “Oh, what will happen to My...if when the recession happens, what will happen?” And that’s why recession happens. What to do?! Somebody asked, “What if...what if the recession happens in Bharat?” Bharat will not suffer at all, because Bharatn economy is equally supported by \#2. Understand. The whole country maybe suffering in the recession, but nothing will happen in practical life. I don’t think...I don’t think you understand what I am saying; because Bharat’s economy is not an accounted economy!! ☺ The number 2 is two times more than number one. So no recession can give any disturbance to Bharat. You see, so much of recession is happening in Bharat also, do you see in practical life any problem? But if you are in the West, you will directly feel the recession. In Bharat, you will never feel recession. If you are in Bharat for a long time, you know what I am talking.
How many are from Bharat, not the West.....people who are in USA, I am telling Bharat - do you have any suffering? There is no recession! Is there any direct impact of recession on your life? No! But ask the people who are in West. There is a direct impact on their life. It’s a totally weird country, it’s a ….you see, this country is a greatest miracle of God. Still this country is functioning, you don’t know...I am really...I am enjoying this country every day. Anything I see, especially after I started travelling, I understand the value of this country. It’s a big mess and beautifully going. And you should go and see in Tirupati, how people pour! How people pour! There is something called Niludopati. Am I right, in the pronounciation ma? Pronounciation is right? Nilodopati. They will wear all the jewels from head to toe and put everything into the Hundi, into the Hundi. So just...just one moment they unclutch, they detach. They would have worked years to make that, means years of hard work. They are just...they know - offer it, surrender it. All... it will be villagers, if you go and see, it will be villagers. Don’t think all rich people coming and pouring. Rich people also pour, that is different. From villagers! This whole country stood for that one idea. You see, just like how people go and pour in Las Vegas, no that is totally different attitude - this is totally different attitude. That money goes for anti social elements and it doesn’t directly comes back to society, but when you go and pour in Tirupati, it directly comes back to society.
It directly comes back to society and see the concept for which they are pouring..... concept for which they are pouring the wealth. Percentage.... see, the population and the wealth held by the population, Hindus are very...I think third or fourth, but the richest spiritual organization belongs to Hindus, because the depth and largest crowd gathers in the humanity’s Kumbha Mela. People walk 2000 – 3000 kilometers and go to Kumbha Mela. Every year it ….every once in three years it happens. Next year it is going to happen. Last...last Kumbha Mela we attended. I’ll tell these guys, to show a video of that to you guys. You can see the video. Ninety-one million people gathered! Ninety-one million people gathered, that’s the world’s largest gathering in the humanity, recorded history of the humanity it is the largest gathering. And I want you to know one more thing, not a single penny is spent in public …….. You see, when this Pope died in Vatican, these guys have started claiming - “this is the largest gathering for spirituality.” I said,” What? Oh God! What is going on?” It is only 2 million. It is only 2 million! And the amount of publicity happened. The amount of infrastructure they have. Here 91 million and not only that, not a single penny is spent in publicity. Only one word in that spiritual calendar will be that - today is maasi magh - that’s all. The whole crowd gathers. I want you to know another one important fact. That city, where 91 million people gathered, doesn’t have airport. Allahabad doesn’t have airport. Only army airport is there.
There is no civilian airport. There is no civilian service. Only train, by walk and train and road that’s all. Another one important fact, this will be very shocking. 91 million people gather, not a single restaurant where food will be sold. All the 91 million people were given free food as a service. You will not see a single restaurant selling food. Selling food is sin in Kumbha Mela. So there will be 100,000...more than 100,000 spiritual organizations, they will have their tent, they will have their tent and serve food. Understand. This whole civilization stands for mukti, stands for liberation, stands for the other world, stands for Enlightenment. That is why... continuously the Avatara Purushas are landing on this Earth, landing on this…. Please don’t think I am fanatic about this country. I am not fanatic about this country; I am just stating some facts, what is happening. I am not fanatic, because I travel all over the world and see the world, I am just standing, I am just stating the fact or the Truth for which this country is standing.
Why don’t they distribute themself across countries?
No, I am not saying, there are no Enlightened Masters outside Bharat. There are many. I am saying, Bharat is…. You see, for landing and expressing, this is the best land. Then we start going around, that’s all. Otherwise if they would have put Me in asylum, what would have happened? Just tell Me! Especially in the young age, you don’t know, how difficult child I was. You should ask...My mother is here. One day, tell her to come here. Maybe she will sit with you guys for half an hour, but one problem, she may not speak fluent English, but somebody can translate. She used to tell….see the... in the Bharatn villages, the teak wood cot will be there. Teak wood cot means it will be at least one ton weight, 1000 kg weight. My power was such, at the age of 3 or 4, I will just tumble the whole cot. And then imagine, just 3-4 year old boy, I’ll just tumble the...turn the whole cot and the person who was sleeping, he’ll ☺…...along with the person, don’t think… Yes, bare hand! Just I’ll tumble the cot. And if I was in USA, what will they do? No, they’ll put Me in some….they’ll say the hyperactive child and they would have put some medicine. They would have given some medicine and made Me dull. What do you call now….Indigo kids.
If I was in West, they would have diagnosed Me as Indigo kid. What would have happened to My Enlightenment? Oh God! I was saved! And it is not one thing, night 12 o’clock, 1 o’clock I’ll come back, because I’ll be sitting with some sadhus and meditating with something, doing some work. They will not even question Me. That’s an amazing thing, My parents, they never questioned Me! They never...you see, it’s not if they question I’ll change Myself, but at least they could have tortured Me psychologically. I never had a psychological torture from them, whether My...before Enlightenment or after Enlightenment, I never had...they never interfered in My life. I can’t...I don’t think this can happen….forget about in the West it will not happen, even in Bharat, the developed cities it won’t happen. Because it was in village, I had this fortune. So this whole civilization…..especially when I left the house. I was I think 17½ and I decided to leave the house to do My yatra and take Sannyas and for My mission. I went and told My mother, I am leaving.
She started crying. I asked her, “What do you mean by crying? You are saying that I should not go.” She said, “No, no, no, I cannot stop you. But only thing I felt, I am not able to digest it. I am not able to digest... I am crying, but I cannot stop you.” She was very clear. She was very clear and said, “I can’t stop you, but I am not able to digest. So I am crying, it is up to me. I will digest, I will settle down. You carry in your journey.” This won’t happen in....even in the cities it won’t happen. People are too possessive about it. Too possessive and it’s not when they are...when your son is around you, you take care of them. Just to fight you need him around. No, this whole civilization stands for that idea. And you see, any village I go, this cloth - food is there!
It means the whole….understand, 9 years I wandered from length and breadth of Bharat, did not carry My food or money and anything, every...wherever I go, I am...I was given food, shelter, cloth - with respect. It means what? This whole country knows a Sannyasi should be respected. He should be supported. He is the backbone of this country. You understand? Even in one village, I didn’t have suffering. So the whole country knows, that is why I am saying - ‘this civilization stands for mukti, especially in the train and all - no ticket - no, where is the money, where is the question of ticket?! And this ticket checking the officers, when they come, they will ask,” Baba, ????????. Did you eat?” They will give you food! Forget about it, they will not only they will not ask for ticket, they will give you food. Once some guy was different religion. That guy was a TAT. He came and he asked Me,” Baba, where is ticket?” I said,” What? Brahma Rajya. Train - Brahma, Aap - Brahma, Ami - Brahma, Sab - Brahma. Ki Brahma? Brahma Rajya - Ki ticket!” You are God, train is God, I am God, everything is God - why ticket?! And that fellow said,” Thank you God”, and went away. If he is a Hindu, he will not even ask. Somehow he asked and he understood. What they will do? What they can do? They can put Me in...in the railway station - how many days?! They have to give food! So, better let Him go. This whole civilization stands with that. See, understand. It is because of these sadhus continuously moving all over the country, this country is united. Otherwise it would have been gone to pieces long before.
It would have been to pieces long before. It is the spiritual strength, which keeps this country unique, otherwise different language, different food. You see, if I travel from here to USA, I don’t have a cultural shock, but if I travel from one state to other state in Bharat, I have a cultural shock. That’s the truth. Independent worlds, but still they are together, just because of the spiritual bone. This whole country is the spiritual incubator. I always bless this country. Let it remain as a spiritual incubator.
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- 4 December 2008
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- English
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