“Let Me first tell the story, then we will see the meaning.”
Let Me first tell the story, then we will see the meaning. See it was Narada who is the one who started everything.This Narada is like a communication minister of those days. He used to take message from here to there, there to here, that is his only work. And he will not just say, he will twist it. He will give his own twist.
One day he saw the jewel on the chest of Vishnu, new jewel.Shamantaka, beautiful shining jewel on the Vishnu’s chest. And he asked “Bhagawan from where did you got get that. He said, some devotee gave, may be Varuna raja, king of the Ocean. Varuna Raja gave. And Narada was thinking, Oh god, such a pretty jewelry.. But somehow he wants to have little fun. Went and spoke to Indra, greedy fellow. See, Vishnu was not greedy, because the devotee gave, he was wearing it. It was there on his Srivatsa…. Srivatsa means His birthmark, Vishnu’s birthmark. On that Shamantaka was sitting. Srivatsa can be called as thwart, dwart, what do you call that? wort,wort, sorry. Like a wort, it was a little big, birthmark...may be that can be the thing… So Srivatsa... So, he saw Shamantaka on Srivatsa and Narada went to Indra and said. Indra, look at this Varuna. This fellow is your servant but he took the Shamantaka and gave it to Vishnu, he did not give it to you. Then Indra got very much annoyed but he can’t tell that directly to Narada because he knows Narada will go and tell this to Vishnu. He knows Narada will go and tell this to Vishnu.
He said, no, no, no.he gave it to Bhagawan, it’s ok, leave it. It should be with Bhagawan. But immediately he called Kubera and said How dare that Varuna will hand over this to Vishnu without asking us. Because, all the Nidhi of Planet Earth and the Ocean, see, Sangha Nidhi, Baduma Nidhi…(at 4:15:00) the.aa aa a… Baduma Nidhi means the lotus which comes out of the mud, ground..Sangha nidhi means the Conch, which comes out of the Ocean. So both wealth belongs to Kubera. Sangha Nidhi, Baduma Nidhi. Conch is the wealth of the Ocean, all things comes from Ocean. All jewels of ocean are denoted by Shankha, conch. All wealth comes from the land is denoted by Baduma, badma, the lotus. So, both belongs to Kubera. So how come Varuna go and handover the Sangha Nidhi, which is your property to Vishnu, without your permission. This fellow cannot directly question Varuna, then because Varuna will go and tell Vishnu. Eh Baba, I gave you and this guy is catching me. But going through the bureaucracy, the department. Now Kubera calls Varuna and straight away asks How come this did not come to my treasury. Then, Varuna says, You are Yaksha, He is Lakshmi. See the Yaksha means who possesses wealth but not neither enjoys nor let others enjoy. Lakshmi means who keeps currency moving. Who enjoys and let others enjoy. The modern day economics theory. See, the modern day economics theory they have described it so clearly.
Yaksha means is the person who is sitting on the wealth, practically if more Yakshas are there in your country means, the country economy will be low. Bharat is filled with Yakshas, West is filled with Lakshmi’s. Guys who spend, who let the currency rotate, let the currency rotate, rotation gives value to currency, life to currency. Currency means what, it should be rotating, that is the currency. So Yaksha gives importance only to hold the wealth; Lakshmi means rotating currency. The Varuna says even if I give it to you it will only be sitting inside a treasury. No one will even know, nobody will see. Don’t you see how pretty it looks on chest of Vishnu. So the, Varuna says, that is why I offered it at the feet of Vishnu. He is wearing, He is enjoying. Kubera makes a petition to Indra, No, this cannot be accepted. Now we don’t know what all wealth this fellow is hiding, let’s churn and bring everything out. Let us churn and bring everything out and bring the whole thing to the treasury now itself.
Nothing should be left with the Varuna Raja. This is where the problem started. This is where the problem started. Now, both Indra and decides we will churn the Varuna Raja, Ocean of Sea, and get all the wealth out and dump it in the Kubera’s treasury, Yaksha and it should be under our control, it should not be left with Varuna anymore.
They decided to churn and now the problem is, they do not want the higher authorities to know. It’s like among the brothers they want to plan and do. Now, the mantralochana starts.
They decide we will not inform or invite Tri Murti’s, because the whole plan is against Vishnu. Because the jewel went to Vishnu, these guys are doing this churning. So, top level guys will not be called. Let us make friendship with the Asuras. Let us do Let us do amongst ourselves. So that nothing can be done. Varuna goes and falls at the feet of Vishnu “Bhagawan, I don’t know what happened, these guys are trying to do this.
Vishnu asks oh, what finally Indra decided. Varuna says they decided to have friendship with Asuras. Then Vishnu, smiles forget it, they will come to me. Relax. Because they have brought the trouble. Because they bought the trouble. Naturally where will they run. They will come to me only, forget about it, I will take care.
You just go and relax. He says them to relax. Then both the fellows are deciding, the who, Rakshasa and devathas, demons and Gods decide they will churn the ocean and get everything out. See, in Bharat, if you see they churn the milk, butter milk, milk. If anything is lying under the ocean, what will happen, it will come out. It will come out. Just like that, they want to churn the ocean. So now, both the guys came to agreement and that yes, we will churn the ocean and. They have decided the Meru, Meru giri should be used as a what do you call, “Matth”, stick. to churn, what do you call, matth stick, there is a english technical term for it. Uh, no Axle that is true, I know, fulcrum? There is a wooden piece, they will use. Blender, Stirrer, Spindle. Ah, Spindle OK. Alright you can have the title, Spindle, let’s understand the word Spindle. They have decided Meru should be a spindle and the Adi Sesha, the snake of on which Vishnu is lying, should be the rope. And after all that noise.
Meru is not actually the physical plane, Meru is the etheric plane. The Kailash and the physical plane is like a airport from where you can go to the Meru. It’s an airport from where you can take off to the original place of Meru. That is why it is considered as Meru, that is not Meru. the plane from where you can take off...It’s the airport from where you can take off.
This fellow's decide, that’s why the problem starts...that’s where the problem comes. That’s where the problem starts. That’s what, that’s where the problem starts. The rope and the spindle both of them decided now who will go and ask. Not only the rope from Vishnu, the Spindle is Shiva’s. Shiva’s spindle and Vishnu’s rope
Rope is Vishnu’s and Spindle is Shiva’s. They want to get them without telling them. And now starts the fun. These guys are sitting and discussing what to do, how to get both of them out, from Vishnu. From Vishnu and Shiva they have to get the spindle and the rope. But they don’t want them to be part, because they may ask for their share of whatever comes out.
So now, these guys have finally decided to send Narada as the representation. Narada is the representation. He goes there. Narada goes and says, Bhagawan, we need your Vasuki and the hill of Shiva both for churning the ocean. Vishnu says what is there, please take it and immediately he tells please go. Vasuki goes, one moment, Vasuki.. Adisesha asks, what should I do Baba. Just go, I will take care. Just go, I will take care. He says you go. And then the next side, the Hill, Mandara spindle from Shiva, Narada goes and asks Bhagawan we need your mandana, your hill. Shiva says what is there, please take it. He also gave it away.
After every, all the things have arrived, now they are ready. Now they are ready with the whole thing to start the churning and now fighting starts, the fight you know is also again created by Narada. Narada says Narada goes and slowly tells Devatas.. See Devatas are the leaders, so hold the head side, not the tail side. So now the fight starts, see who will hold the tail Vasuki and who will hold the head of the snake. So all Devatas say, we are superior, we will hold the head. And Asuras say, AHH, then what we are lower or what. We will hold the head. And fight starts. Immediately the fight starts, the drama is they already put the mandara already in ocean, it is getting sink. It is continuously sinking inside and here fighting is going on; still even the churning has not started. But before that itself, fight has started. Fight has started between these two fellows, they saw that left and right, the fight is going on. Suddenly, the Indra was surrounded, arrested by demons. Before even the fight starts, before even the fight starts, Indra is already arrested. Now, Narada runs again to the Vishnu Loka. Oh Lord, what happened, we don’t know! See what has happened. Then, Vishnu laughs, you guys don’t want us; why are you coming here now? Then Narada says, no no no, now it is too serious, please you have to do something, please you have to do something. All the devatas who are remaining all the chota guys, chota chota guys, all of them run and fall at the feet of Vishnu and say please forgive us, it is Indra’s mistake; it’s not that we did. Please do something immediately. Then Krishna says, Vishnu says, Alright, I will do something. Go, I will come and he waits till that fellow exhausts his Karma or his suffering.He doesn’t go immediately. This Indra fellow said no to Vishnu, nah. So how much Karma he has to suffer he is sitting silently. Sirghali is the place where the Vishnu, Indra was prisoned.
See now I am coming and connecting with all the places, sthalas. Alright, first I will finish the story. Then I will step by step open up.
Sirghali story, Sirghali temple story has got a great significance in the enlightenment path.I will come and open. Sirghali is the place where Indra is imprisoned by the demons and Vishnu waits enough.
Aali means ocean. Sirghali means where the sin of ocean got cleaned. Ghali means ocean. Even in Sanskrit I think they have a word. Ghali means ocean, Sirghali means, the sin of the ocean got cleaned.
So, this fellow, finally Vishnu decides to go. And He goes and says, as the devathas are elders, they will only hold the head. But the demons, they try to catch Vishnu also. They say, NO, we will only hold the head. Finally, He says alright we will come to a compromise. You guys will only hold the head.Then if Amrita comes first, devathas will drink.Whoever wants to hold the head, they should give priority to other person for sharing the Amrita. These fellows say, that’s OK. Anyhow afterall, we will have a share, so no problem.
See, losing the wealth for the sake of ego is demon. Gaining the wealth along with ego is devathas. Gaining wealth and enlightenment is rishis, losing wealth also for ego sake is demon, understand. Having only ego, not even wealth is asura, demon. Having ego and wealth is the devathas. No ego, wealth and enlightenment both are there, people who stay in Vaikunta or Kailasa, that is Rishi’s, enlightened beings.
So these guys, they are so crazy, they are so cranky. These guys did not even have the idea they are losing Amrita, Nectar. But anyhow they decided, alright we will let go. Then, Vishnu goes and tells Devathas.
These guys devathas, don’t want to go for the compromise. He told , “Fool, Vasuki will emit poison if she is used as a rope because, AAh, continuosly, Adisesha will be pulled this side and that side and what will happen. He will sweat and his sweat is poison, will you be able to handle.
They say, Oh God, you saved us. You saved us, then come on this side and go that side.
Now the next drama starts, they start churning and the sound which is created, deafens the whole world, deafens the whole world. And left and right, churning is going on and first, the top level things are coming out. Like Animals, the Seahorse what they call, is coming out and all those things started coming out. Then Apsaras. The patala loka whatever was there, Kamadhenu, Kalpavriksha, everything started coming out, One by one, one by one, one by one, The funny thing is someone anything that comes, devathas or demons will go and catch it - shouts it’s mine, it’s mine who finds it keeps it. Who finds it keeps it. Because so many things are coming out, whoever finds things things, they started taking them away. Finally, Lakshmi came and Vishnu said, alright I will have her. He took it away. All the things whatever came out, daga daga daga all these fellows taken it away.
Suddenly, this Adi sesha who became so tired, he says, no no, give a break, I am not able to do anything, because he became tired. But these fellows are so greedy, they say no no break. They are pulling and pushing, he became little longer. Because he became little longer, the spindle started sinking inside. Spindle started sinking inside, and because spindle started sinking inside, the overweight, he emitted poison, he emitted the poison. The moment poison came, all the fellows devatas or asuras everybody, whole group left everything and ran away. Left everything and ran away. And the spindle is going down and down continuously. Immediately Vishnu took the form of a tortoise and went and held the spindle without sinking further, much further.
All these Devathas ran to Shiva. God please save me. Because Vishnu is already in the job of holding spindle. Actually what Shiva gave, Vishnu took care what Vishnu gave, Shiva took care.
Hahahaha…. Vishnu gave Adisesha so Shiva took care of Adisesha’s the poison. What Shiva gave spindle, Vishnu took care of the spindle. Then Shiva says, alright don’t bother, I will take care of the poison. And He took the poison and swallowed it, put it at the neck. Devi just holds the Shiva’s neck and the poison stays there itself. That is another great important thing you need to know. Even if poison is added to the enlightened being, not only he does not die, the quality of poison disappears. Even the quality of the poison disappears, that becomes divine. So he takes the poison It does not work anymore. Then finally, the Vishnu balances the tortoise, Vishnu balances the Meru spindle as a tortoise and churning is done, then finally comes out Amrita. From below, the Amrita kalasa comes out and the moment Amrita kalasa comes out, all their agreement and morality lost. According to agreement, what was the agreement; Devatas will have the first share and these asuras started running to catch the kalasa and finish it off.
And these Devatas are afraid because what will happen if it goes to asuras. They will not get a even the water washed that pot. These asuras will not give the water used to wash that pot to the devatas. And both the fellows are fighting in between, in the gap, Dhanvantari, who is the Lord of Medicine keeps the Amrita kalasa secretly hiding in four places in the Planet Earth - that is Haridwar, Allahabad, Nasik, and Ujjain. See our twelve years is the one Kshana for them. So in one kshana, he kept changed three places, It’s like the Income Tax raid, when it comes, how people chase and put the money, in different places, in the same way, takadaka taka, same way just like that he puts here, there, here there, constantly and these fellows are fighting.
Finally Vishnu takes a mohini incarnation, takes a form of a seducing woman, and says, alright, both of you stop fighting, I will share the Amrita, nectar and give you guys. The moment they see the Mohini, these fellows forgot about Amrita. All the demons forgot about the Amrita, because for them nothing else is required. Ah forget about it, chath, chath, chath, nothing else is required. And these fellows are running behind Mohini, saying yes yes yes, we will obey what you say, you do whatever you feel like. Whatever you want, you feel like. Then Mohini said, alright all of you sit in a straight line. They sat this side and all this side, devatas sat on the other side. All the demons sat on this side. Mohini started serving the nectar to the devatas first but these guys have no guts to ask Mohini, they were not in the mood to ask, question Mohini, they were just sitting. But two fellows, two demons, Rahu and Ketu, even though they are seduced by Mohini, they are little cunning, they are little intelligent. They thought, let us go and sit that side. And get the Amrita. So she was serving. These guys came and sat that side. And the story says, the not only she did not serve them, she knocked both the guys with the same spoon she was carrying, which she was carrying thats why they lost the head. They lost the head and that’s why Rahu and Ketu do not have a head, and they became shadow. They do not have any existence.
Neither Rakshasa group agree them nor devathas keep them. So they are shadows, neither here nor there. They became, Rahu and Ketu. Finally, Amrita is served, by that time devathas finished, Amrita Kalasa became empty and Mohini also disappeared. Mohini also disappeared. The story says because these guys drank the Amrita, the demons were not able to kill them. The fight started and demons were blasted left and right by the devatas new powers. All the demons ran away and hid themselves under the ocean. This is the story, now let us enter into the truth behind the story. (29:03 min). I am seeing, already some people are sleeping. Ehl papa…. Why suddenly all fellows are sleeping,...morning they were alright. What? No, I understand, that sometime, Maya will not allow so much of understanding to happen. Maya will not allow so much of understanding to happen, so be very careful, Maya be cannot allow so much of understanding. May be now you are getting slowly caught by Mohini!! (Laughter).
But if you give one more break, so much time will be wasted, eh, where is the watch. But if you guys are sleeping, I will not talk.
(30:28 min) Understand, first step. Indra getting jealous of Vishnu’s Shamantaka. It always happens, disciples get jealous seeing the status of Master, instead of state of the Master. Understand, instead of trying to achieve the state in which Master resides, Vishnu resides, he wants to have the status of the Vishnu. That is where the problem starts. It can lead to enlightenment or to destruction. If you take the right turn, right place, even being jealous of status of the Master can lead to State of the Master. If you want to have the same status means what you need, state? So jealously can become inspiration or perspiration. See, if you do what he did also, it can become inspiration. If you only see the final achievement and do not create do what he did, then it is perspiration.
So, all you need to understand is jealous towards the Master do not become perspiration. That is where the whole thing starts. Now, Indra is jealous of the jewel and thinks it should belong to him. All the rich fellows think the luxury and joy belong to them, not to the enlightened being. That is a big problem, they think they should only enjoy. that is why they are so angry when they see a enlightened Master joyful . No, really, even conceptually, i know even in Tamil Nadu, very many rich idiots do not come to me because I am joyful. I am smiling all the time even in my photographs, no really. So many fellows have made comments, i myself have heard. Why this fellow is smiling, why Swami’s should laugh. Why is Swami … I have seen, these fellows think. Joy, laughter or Shamantaka is their right, because they worked for it. Indra works, does administration and then gets that as a salary. I only get it as celebration as donation of a devotee. Varuna comes and gives it to me, what can I do. Varuna comes and gives it to me , so what can I do. Anyhow, these people are jealous and they start the drama. Now the problem is they wanted to acquire all the wealth just by themself, so that nothing else goes to anybody else. So, they have the status and state everything all for themself. They start the process, they start the process of churning. Actually, the problem is, when the process starts, suddenly you realize, beyond you something is required for success. Even, when you work to achieve the wealth,beyond you something starts, something is needed for success. That is where you send the prayers, Narada to Vishnu. Narada goes to Vishnu. So now, the story takes a new twist. If you send prayers to the Master, same person, the same jealous can become inspiration. Whoever has never sent prayers, then what happens, it remains as a perspiration. Now the story takes a real shift. Anyhow, knowingly or unknowingly they are surrendered, they are surrendered to the same person of whom they are jealous. Surrender can come even through jealous, its OK, nothing wrong. So surrender is the whole thing needed. Surrender is what is completely needed. Not the jealous.
You see, it’s only under the orders of Indra. Indra is the one who is jealous and Indra is the one who is responsible. I can say Devathas if they stood against Indra, then they are not responsible. But they have not stood against Indra. An individual should stand against even the leader even if he is not completely in tune with the idealogy. This I can say I always tell people. Even if I put somebody in the front on the stage as a leader, as Indra, as long as he executes my words. As long as he creates more devotion in you towards me, only then he is worthy of that seat. Understand, if he does something against, even though he is appointed by me, should be refuted by Devathas. So, every step, you should take care to create and have the company of those who intensify your devotion towards the Master, or executes your Master’s words. Then you are right, or the person between you and Master will become priest. Who is in between you and Master is priest. In Tamil, they say Gurukkal, why they say Gurukkal you know. Gurukaal, Gurukaal, guru naal, Gurukkul. He always goes between you and God, thats why he is called Gurukkal. And he will become priest, he will become just dead priest.
Now the story has to be understood in a totally different way, new dimension. Actually, in Nithyanandam, I started from this part only, earlier part I did not tell. Earlier part is the from the beginning of the story. See, now it’s totally a mystical or esoteric story. All Devathas are the positive thoughts which is raising in you. Joyful thoughts raising in you, which give you joy. All demons are depressive thoughts raising in you, negative thoughts. All demons are depressive thoughts, all Devathas are positive thoughts. Be Unclutched, the technique is the spindle. Technique is the spindle and the Tortoise which is balancing the technique properly, is the Guru, Vishnu. Vishnu’s may be we can say, Guru’s different form one form of the Master. When you Unclutch, decide to Unclutch, both the thoughts will pull you this side and this side. Understand, one more important thing, till you start the technique, the negative thoughts and positive thoughts are opposing each other. The moment you start unclutching, both the forces will join and attack you, because first time you became conscious. Pratyaratma chaitanya, individual consciousness gets awakened. Whenever the individual consciousness gets awakened, neither negative thoughts nor positive thoughts can have their influence over you. It’s like state parties takes care the Center party does not enter into your state. See both of them will be enemies, state parties, two parties. When it comes to Center party, both of them will join. Either you win or I will win, we will not allow the Central party. Central party should not come into the state. Same thing, if the Central party comes in, neither positive nor negative thoughts will be having place there. Individual consciousness if it is awakened, neither positive thoughts nor negative thoughts will have power over you. Then both of them will join suddenly and start churning you left and right. A real left and right. If you went thru the Churning, you know. If you have gone thru the churning you know. A depression which is unimaginable will come out of you. Understand, hormonal building in your body will give life to the memories stored in your muscles. An important thing. Now, you should understand an important truth. (41:25).
Sit straight little. Sit straight everybody. The moment I said hormonal, everybody will sit straight. See, once you finish the physical sex act, the same memory which was so colorful before the act does not have any more power over you and slowly hormonal pressure gets built in your body for the next five days or ten days. But in the west, no need for five, ten days. Five or ten days, every thought which comes related to the sex pleasure, creates a little bit of hormonal pressure. Or your body also gets ready for the next act. If your body is filled with hormones, means ready for the next sexual act, the same visualization will be so colorful or powerful.
The memory of the same person, the imagination will be so attracting, before the physical act. The moment the physical act is done, the hormone is released, hormonal pleasure comes down, the same visualization does not have any more power over you, am I right?
Same thing here also. Just the same thing here also. You will have same ordinary thought which did not have too much power over you which did not create too much depression over you, will be creating too strong depression over you because your hormonal pressure is prone for depression. Understand, during churning, normally for example, if you have a thought. “What will happen if my son dies” it may not have too much depression but during churning, during Nithyanandam, when the pulling and pushing is going on, the same thought will create literally, you will see the visualization in front of you, in the front of you and your body will have so much of pressure of depression. Now, whatever was putting you in depression during Nithyanandam, remember, they will have no power over you. Why, they wont have power over you. At that time, even though I myself tell you, arey this is the truth, you tell now, whatever you say, I know the meaning of the word, I wont, I cant. I have not, I can’t, I know. This Nithyanandam is a very dangerous program. No really, very dangerous program. (44:23) Because Literally, I will be churning.
All those things, at least, earlier, the same thought was not creating too much depression. Now the same thought will be creating so much depression in you. Why, you know, all possible worst experiences and best experiences will happen to you, so that no experience can imbalance you. No experience can imbalance you. See, you have lot of anticipation or expectation of worst experiences in your system than best experiences. If you have hundred memories, ninety of them will be some way related to, your worst memories or your worst anticipations, worst expectations. Only ten of them will be positive expectations, positive thoughts. So understand, ninety percent of them are worst means, so naturally, depression will be the first thing to come out. And not only that, any small which I say will even hurt you. I have sees, during Nithyanandam, I will be very very careful. Because these fellows are waiting to run away, they are waiting to run away. Not only that, when you unclutch, every part of your body will experience tiredness in the initial level, because only that will get released. Depression is tiredness, that will get released. Another one important difficult thing, not only your depression will get released, suddenly, you will have some small small powers. That is what is this Sangha nidhi coming out, baduma nidhi coming out, the kamadhenu coming out, Kalpavriksha coming out. All the Horses coming out, apsaras coming out. Apsaras coming out means fantasies coming out. Kalpavriksha coming out means your Agna coming out. All chakra one one thing will come out.
Each chakra one one thing will come out. The difficulty is because you are already in loneliness of depression you will catch Apsaras and start living with them. Thats why during Nithyanandoham, I am very careful nobody consoles the other. Nobody supports the other. If somebody supports you, you will fall in love with that person thinking that this person is great. That person is not great, your loneliness is . Do not ever decide to marry if you are in loneliness or depression. You will choose Apsara, means what, you are in trouble. Apsara will be beautiful till the child comes out. That is why the Viswamitra story, the moment she comes out with the child, Apsara will be beautiful till you have responsibility, that is what the child is. See, Apsara will be beautiful because both of you have no responsibilities, no commitment. Just run around, only when the commitment comes, you will understand Oh God, the fantasy is not worthy of commitment. Then problem starts, Apsara is fantasy. Then the churning goes left and right. A person who is aware of the number of thoughts happening during the negative side and the positive side he only continues the churning. The snake, Vasuki is your individual consciousness. Understand, your individual consciousness. The individual consciousness is pulled towards one side, the negative thoughts, pulled other side by positive thoughts. And the technique is inserted into you, be Unclutched. Exactly, the technique is there in the Center and if you allow, say yes to positive thoughts, they will just pull you to one side. And Whole life is heaven. If you turn this side and say yes to negative thoughts, they will just pull you the other side, whole life will be hell. You are supposed to be steady with the technique of Be unclutched. You should neither get imbalanced through the positive thoughts nor imbalanced thru negative thoughts, or positive thoughts supposed to get positive thought or negative thought.
The churning will stop; just sit neither being taken away by negative nor being taken away by positive and allow the churning to happen. The immediate result of the churning with awareness is you will get some powers. You will get some powers, small small miracle powers. As I told you, old cell phone, second hand camera, all the garage sale items. items which comes in garage sales, all those items you will get. If you get stuck with garage sale items, you can never get home, moksha, you will never get the truth. You will be stuck there itself. You will be stopped there itself, and one important thing. One big danger which could happen is tiredness of the individual consciousness from being churned. Not having passions to go thru the whole process, that is the worst thing , nobody can save you if that happens. Nobody can save you. If that happens, you vomit your impassions as a hatred towards the Master. That is poison, halahala. That is what is poison. Hatred towards the person who gave you Mandara, Meru giri. Understand, technique is the place where Master is sitting, he gave his own place for you and you throw poison towards the same person who gave you the Mandara. Mandara giri means Manthra giri, technique is the Mantra. Be Unclutched is the Mantra. Is the Mandara giri, Mantra giri. Your hatred towards the Master if you vomit it because of your impassions, your ignorance that is is poison, halahala. One important thing, once you vomit halahala, even your negative and positive thoughts will disappear from you. Suddenly, you will be relieved. Whoever ran away from Nithyanandam felt that feeling for the next one month. For next month, Oh God, I am out. Let all this nonsense be away from me. Let me breathe fresh air. How long, till the poison comes to your mouth; till the poison comes to your mouth. But compassionate Master, he is so compassionate, he does not bother. He takes the poison and swallows. He takes even that poison and swallows. And he is so very…. expression only comes out as a tortoise and balances and continues the technique to happen in you. Understand he is Shiva and he is Vishnu. He only comes as a tortoise, he takes care the technique continues to be working in you, alive and he takes care and the poison is also swallowed and he takes care churning continues, the process continues, understand the technique continues by the proper grace of the Master. Technique continues, and then comes Amrita, enlightenment. Even after Amrita, enlightenment comes out, few negative thoughts just jump and come along with positive thoughts and want to empowered by the Amrita. What are those few negative thoughts which can ome, with the positive thoughts which can come even after enlightenment. What are those thoughts?
I did everything, what did he do? I did everything, what did he do? That is Rahu and Ketu. He does not even have a head but he will be jumping. He does not even have a leg, but he will be dancing. Neither head, nor leg, shadowish thoughts. But Master will see that thoughts does not get empowered, they will not get the Amrita. Understand when Amrita goes inside, your inner space is clean, if at all some thoughts are given life, they are Devathas, good thoughts. That will only be good thoughts and they will also lose its power when you relax completely out of the bodies. Even those will get released when you leave the body. When you leave the body, even those positive thoughts will be released. As long as your body is alive, the positive thoughts will have power, that is called Jeevan Mukti. You will not be touched by any thoughts. If at all there will be few thoughts in your inner space, they will be positive. This is called Jeevan Mukti. When you leave the body, they will not have power over you, it is called Videha Mukti. It is called Videha Mukti.
Jeevanmukti means, you are alive, there will be few thoughts, may be some good thoughts that will have no power over you, just because of your freedom, choice. That is Jeevan Mukthi. Videha Mukthi means even those thoughts will not be there.
A person who allowed this churning, who had the passions to go thru this churning, who had the passion to go thru the whole process, enjoys Amrita. That’s why we say, Tyage Naika, Amritatva Manasu hu.
Understand Thyaga does not mean throwing away whatever you have. Tyaga means, passions to go thru the process of churning in the presence of a Master. Tyaga is more like a sacrifice your time, not the products which you are having. Understand, I am giving a new definition for renunciation. Tyaga means ability to sacrifice your time, not the products or the properties which you are having in your name. That is the truth. Tyage Naika Amritatva Manasu Hu. Without a sacrifice, the Amritatva, enlightenment is not achieved, whoever has got the passions, to go thru churning. I have seen, not only in Nithyanandam, even if you start staying around the Master, the churning happens. Churning starts happening, because, see, by very presence of the Master, you start getting cleaned. You go to the Master to get yourself cleaned. That is why always Even if you don’t feel little connected, feel little disturbed, do not try to be around me so close and all. I always take care why do you think I am so careful and choosy, because if these fellows, they are not in tune and sit in front of me, even a small word will hurt them. I may not be talking to them, it will hurt them.
(59:32) Once, like this I was talking about NSP, completely take care and you will not die alone. That fellow started asking why it did not happen that way for me in NSP? He did not even do NSP, he only did Atma Spoorana. He has not even understood that and he is shouting. The problem is they are waiting to get hurt. Nothing can be done. That is why I am so choosy about what to talk to whom to talk . I always tell If you are not feeling connected, if you have some irritation about my activities or about my talking words, better escape as early as possible. This is not a place for you to be.
Understand, I am so compassionate I let you to be around me in all moods, always. Usually these so called Masters will not allow to be around so close. Why you know, you will find out they are not enlightened. See, 24 hours you can’t act. 24 hours they can’t act 24 hours they can’t act. but a living Master, real master, he wants as much as possible people to.see him in all close calls, close quarters, so that they will imbibe the body language, they will imbibe the body language, they will imbibe the life, they will imbibe the whole thing. So close people say but nobody loses the respect, nobody takes it for granted. Because heart always realizes the truth.
I always tell people, if you are not feeling connected, better escape as early as possible. Because you will not only be finding fault, you will hurt yourself. Understand. I won’t bother at all, I will never be bothered.
Even yesterday, we were all jumping, somebody was bothered. Will you bother, we wont even remember. Get lost, who cares.
We will not even bother, but the person who gets hurt, will constantly hurt himself. You just dont want people to get hurt themself, that’s all. That’s the truth.
People will get hurt.
Tyage naika. Having passions, dedicating little time, sacrificing little time, to go thru the churning is Tyaga. That is Tyaga.
One more important thing, in this whole drama, actually nothing else is required except the passions, because He gives you the Mantra, He himself balances the Mantra, and He himself can let the churning process also happen. Beauty of the tortoise is, it can rotate the spindle so beautifully, you don’t even need some time like the Devathas and Asuras for churning. He himself can rotate the spindle and finish the whole churning.
Understand, he doesnt even need good thoughts or bad thoughts to pull you left and right. He himself can beautifully balance the spindle and just get the Amrita out, get the whole thing out. WHy he took the Tortoise form you know, tortoise can take all his senses into him. During Churning, you need to take all your senses into you. Only then you will have balance to go thru the churning. Otherwise thru someone sense all your energy will go away. Thru some one sense all your energy will go away.
During churning you need to be in seclusion. That’s why the ten days, I want you to be away from society. I want you to be away from all the society, want you to be away from
Blessed are those who have passions to go thru the process. Blessed are those who have have found the Master and passions. They will always enjoy the Nectar, eternal bliss, Nithyanandam. Thank You.
How many time I tell this story, I also don’t get bored. How many times I told this story, I don’t know but people also don’t feel bored, that’s nice. Something new new comes up Na, understand.
….Balance,..... That is only churning, not external stimulus.It’s only churning, just be with the churning. Shall we start, next one ready? Ah, Later on.,
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