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24 March 2007

“Question: I am not sure of the animal I was in.”

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Question: I am not sure of the animal I was in. I thought I did get the monkey and what I got was a very strong sense of being a wounded animal.

Swamiji: Hmmm, it is good. Actually Ma, sometime you will feel an animal which is handicapped or which is not able to do. So even those karmas are good. Just work with this means the… you would have left the body because of some accident. You understand what I am saying? You would have died in that animal body because of some accident or suffering. You are able to understand what I am saying?

Question: Yes, but I don't even know what animal it was.

Swamiji: That is okay, no problem. Just the lump of pain, just the feeling of suffering? Hmmm? Okay.

Question: Swamiji, I was getting so worried I see a lot of animals. All these animals- a lion, tiger, cat, everything.

Swamiji: It is good. No, actually you are opening too many layers at a time immediately. It is good actually. See, you already did Nityanandam na? So lot of… your layers are very porous. It can be just opened easily. That is the reason you opened up so many things. Good. One more thing, somebody came and told Me that, “Swamiji, I felt I need more space. I wanted to drive away all the other animals.” One person was coming and telling Me. No, that is the way real animals feel. See, you can't make animals sit so close. No, you can't. No animal will sit so close continuously and all. They need their space. So it is good, means you are really get into that space.

Question: I want to ask about the wounded animal. During the meditation this morning I saw many many animals but I had three that kept repeating themselves.

Swamiji: That three are…you must be having major samskaras from that three bodies.

Question: And two of them were wounded and the last time before You stopped, I felt myself licking my wounds.

Swamiji: Beautiful. See, actually the animal... the animals heal like that only. They heal themself by licking only. So it means that you really got into that body. Beautiful. Nice. Ma, that…somebody asked what is My role being here? This all is My role means really pushing them, putting the whole logic to a silence and giving a strong instruction: let the whole group fall into that experience. That is the role of the Master. See, morning one hour I was talking. The introduction if you see, the whole introduction is about putting the ego, the logic down so that, that space to trust is created. More and more people can enter into that experience. Master is a possibility. He is a promise to open the door for more and more people.

Question: Swamiji, in this morning session I had the question that is there any relation between the nature of this birth and the animal nature?

Swamiji: Yes, yes, yes. There is a strong connection. Even though you take a human body, you are not completely human being till you work out those samskaras, those karmas.

Question: I have so many times, I feel like I was a cow. So is it conscious or is it possible?

Swamiji: It is possibility. It is a truth, not just a mind. One more thing, before the Gayatri, Gayatri initiation, the vedic tradition.... In the vedic tradition, Gayatri initiation is the first step towards spirituality. Before the Gayatri initiation, you will be made to do this Mriga Sharira Vasa continuously for 30-40 days in those days usually, but nowadays only three minutes you are supposed to do. In three minute what will you do? And it became like a ritual. That’s where the problem and in some initiation, they don't even tell that Mantra. The Mriga sharira vasa is not even done. That is where the ‘Yogo nasta parantapaha’- In course of time, the truth is lost.

Actually if you make these things kids to do, they will have sharper and clear experience because they have not… still they are not conditioned. In Bharat, in our Gurukul and in our Little Anandas program, we have a program called Little Anandas. Fifteen days workshop, intense workshop. Now we made it as a twenty one days workshop for the kids who are below fourteen years, below fourteen. In Bharat, usually the kids get physically measured by fourteen. So before that itself we wanted them to go through this process so that they will be out of everything. By the time they physically get matured, they will be human beings.

See, if the physical maturity happens as a human being, you will not fall too low and you will not be too much lust centred. You see, only animal, only animal which is lust centred throughout the year and twenty four hours the day is human being. See reality. No other animal is filled with lust throughout the year and twenty four hours. Just a small suggestion is enough, the human being is ready but no other animal... because when you live with nature, there is a period, there is a time, there is a mood, there is a mind’s ups and low… body’s ups and lows. Because the mind has interfered in our system, the body getting ready or all those things are just immaterial. Moment mind is ready, body has to be ready. That is the reason that we need to workout those animal engrams before the physical maturity. Then you will be more human being, not the human being as we are now.

As on now, we are not human beings. Maybe living In the human body but not human beings. Just the mind is living. That is why you are twenty four hours ready. You are not natural. Animals are sometime much better. So if you remove those animal engrams, you will not be just lower than animal. Now you are lower than the animal. It will be above, it will be beyond the animal existence. In those days, before they give the Gayatri, you see the… during the Gayatri they will tie a rope in the hip and give a Kaupeen, means the loin cloth. Before that itself they will make you go through all this mriga sharira vasa so that you will live a human existence by the time you are physically mature. You will be more graceful, more feeling fulfilled.

Question: In one of my animals I was a vulture and I was eating something and somebody came close and I had to really fight to not flap that person.

Swamiji: Hmm, hmm, I understand.

Question: And after that I stood up like a man. And the next thing I was another animal again.

Swamiji: That is beautiful means that you are done, Ma. You have moved, you understand? You have moved.

Question: Swamiji, I was so afraid to be there with my eyes closed. I don't know the reality. I felt like never before. And I don’t want to be anymore. I was so scared.

Swamiji: Just go with that fear.

Question: I chanted the mantra

Swamiji: No Mantra will help to get rid of the fear. Only facing the fear will work. Okay, I understand. It is good, okay.

Question: In the process is it okay to interact with other noises?

Swamiji: You can interact with the other noises as long as you don't disturb the other person. Actually some animal will get irritated with the… when somebody else is shouting. Here I saw four-five guys shouting but they did not touch each other. So then I said okay, because it is your territory. Somebody enters your territory, you can't tolerate. In the Ashram also we have some animals. We don't tie them or keep like a pet how these countries they do. We don't tie them. They are just running around but even though they are free, they have their own territories. One guy will not enter into the other side and the other guy cannot come into this side.

And till I leave this territory, only this dog will follow Me, and after I leave this compound, this fellow will stop and that guy will come and start. Then only he will leave and he will not cross that gate. If he crosses, the fight will start. And that guy can't come inside to escort Me. If that guy comes inside, the fight will start. These two will be standing and this guy knows to what extent he can escort Me and he will stop. Then the next guy has to come and pick up. And if that guy doesn't come also, this guy will not cross the boundary.

Anyhow, the space. Alright. Now it is time that we end the session. Tomorrow morning we will start the process. We may spend little more time on discussing about the Pranamaya Sharira or the experiences during Pranamaya tomorrow. The essence of all these things, your experience is, go little more deeply into the meditation, next next process, that's all. If you experience something, beautiful, go into the process now. And it is not that, you will be stopping with this. This is just a good start, good beginning. Now you are supposed to be entering into the deeper level, the deeper process.

Maybe before going and sleeping, you just jump for five minutes. You will really be alive and you will not be tired tomorrow morning. If you go and sleep like this mood, you will be tired tomorrow morning. I always tell people, even in your house, before sleeping, just play some song and jump for five-ten minutes. Dance wildly, not mildly Ooooooo, Oooooo. Not that kind of dance and not even moving the body and just wildly, let your whole body be active. Jump, then if you sleep, you will be fresh next day morning because the second layer energy will be alive, active. Now the first layer energy is over, done. If you jump, second layer energy will become active. Go and sleep. Tomorrow morning you will be fresh.

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