“Delegate: I was traveling in a two wheeler when I met with a road…”

Delegate: I was traveling in a two wheeler when I met with a road accident. So I still now don't have the confidence to travel in a bike. So whenever I go with my husband I feel that I am going to meet with an accident again. So that is the reason for..we always fight because of this.

Swamiji: How many... how many years you traveled in the road last?

Delegate: Yes even after the accident happened..

Swamiji: No, no, how many years you traveled in the road means from your birth?

Delegate: Obviously yes.

Swamiji: But only one incident happened.

Delegate: But that was a very major accident and..

Swamiji: I understand ma I understand. I Am not assuring you it will not happen again. I Am not assuring you that. But what I Am saying just why don't you look. How many times you got into the vehicle see whenever we get into the vehicle not only you everybody has that feeling when you sit in the car or when you sit in the two wheeler, one thought, you have to suppress that thought and sit. If you have the courage to suppress that thought you are called fearless. If you don't have the courage to suppress that thought, you are person filled with fear. Otherwise the courageous person..see the exact incident itself cannot be managed but the inner space can be managed. I tell you when you actually manage the inner space, even the incidents suddenly start changing. It is esoteric. You may, may not believe that part, that is different. But even for your day to day life, when you can manage the inner space why not?

It's a simple fact. See not only you, everybody has that thought. Tell Me who doesn't have that thought? When you get into the vehicle, when you sit in a car or when you sit in the two wheeler, one thought it will always crop. One thought..of an accident or some this kind of incident. One thought will always be there. See, fearlessness is not the absence of fear. It is the courage to handle the fear. There is no such thing as absence of fear. Fear is a basic instinct. As long as you are breathing, you will have fear. If you want to be fearless, only one space: cemetery - where you have nothing to lose. Only there you can be fearless. As long as you have something to lose, the fear is part of it. So fearlessness does not mean absence of fear. We are all striving to have that space of absence of fear. No it is simply impossible, which is not there. There is no inner, nobody's inner space there is nobody who has a inner space where the fear is absent. No. Fearlessness means courage to handle the fear, that's all. Not absence of fear. Just remember this one statement.

Delegate: Self to the outer world and something else to ourselves and one is an overestimation of ourselves and the other is an under estimation of ourselves. So, is there ..is there a via media where we know what we are?

Swamiji: Via media. You see ma..one thing for via media..if you want via media decide for next ten days I will be in confusion about myself. Have the courage. I will not believe what I am presenting to the outer world. I will not believe what I am believing as me in the inner world. I will be in confusion; it’s okay. See we don't have courage to face that confusion. We want to hang on to something constantly. I tell you just ten days, not even eleven days, just ten days decide courageously. It will be little depressing and it will be a little shaking. It's okay, ten days I will be very strong. Let us see. Eleventh day I will not believe this Swami. I will believe what I want only. Ten days try to be in confusion. Suddenly you will settle down, kind of an inner space where you will not be bothered about the Ahamkara which you are projecting or Mamakara which you are believing. This confusion, going through this confusion is what I call Tapas. People are afraid of that ten days ma. People are afraid of that Tapas, that is why they want some pseudo idea about themselves. See you are not courageous enough to go through that confusion. If you just today, if you decide I will not believe what I am projecting to the outer world as me and I will not believe what I am believing as me in the inner world. I will not act based on these two ideas. Ten days my life will be in confusion, it's okay. I will not talk anything from those ideas, I will not do any action from those ideas, I will not move my body out of that two identities just for ten days. Decide.

It will be little shaking. Your day to day routine may be disturbed for ten days. It's okay. I say it is worthy. It's worthy. It's worthy. You will see a kind of a courage. Sometime people may completely feel connected and settled with that confusion. They will not even be bothered that they are confused. That courage is what I call you. Again and again Ramana Maharishi says beautifully, ask who am I, who am I, who am I. We made that as a Mantra. We start chanting who am I? Who am I? Who am I? Who am I? Who am I? It is not a question, it is a quest. Ten days decide: I will not act on the identity which we show which I show to the outer world or identity which I show to the inner world as me. I will not speak I will not act I will not do anything based on that identity. My relationships will have a little problem, my work will have little suffering, my daily routine may have little disturbance, it’s okay. Just ten days. Decide. You will suddenly see a different understanding happening about you, different clarity rising about you. I will not be able to verbalize that because you have to go through that. See I know what I Am, I can't tell you what you are. Just have the courage for that ten days, that's what I say Tapas. See all I can do is I can initiate you into Tapas. I can give you little confidence, courage to do Tapas. I can't give you the truth. It can't be taught but it can be learnt.

(07.02)

Delegate: Pranam Swamiji. I think today in the context of Krishna in Mahabharat, if you observe you know most of the time, He is silent.

Swamiji: He is silent?

Delegate: Other characters are doing some nonsense, because of that only He, I mean is able to do something. This is what I observed throughout the Mahabharat. Even in battlefield also. So do you mean to say that in management day to day in managing the day to day affairs, we should be like that?

Swamiji: Two thing. Your understanding about Krishna, I Am not able to understand or I don't feel that is correct.

Delegate: Maybe partially.

Swamiji: Maybe partially. So second thing, I Am not saying, even if you have understood, what you said about Krishna is the truth, I am not saying imitate Krishna. No. Both. I am not saying both. All I can say..you see I should be responsible for whatever I am talking because I believe or I trust that you are going to practice whatever I am talking. So naturally I should be responsible. I can say only these words very strongly; practice this technique. Try to relax into the choicelessness. What I Am explaining, you will experience Krishna's inner space. This only I can say courageously. I don't have courage to tell what you understood about Krishna is right or even if it is right I don't have the courage to tell you please practice that.

Delegate: Because mostly He played tricks only in the entire episode.

Swamiji: No. I don't know. I don't want to use the word tricks. I can say when you are established in dharma, you may not follow what others or society calls it as dharma. You will have such a spontaneous decision but I can tell you it is out of pure sacrifice and love. I can't... I can't experience more love and sacrifice in anybody else's life than Krishna. Everything He sacrificed. He is able to sacrifice His identity and come and sit as a charioteer. Please understand. So if He has gained something out of the whole drama, whole scene we can say it’s a trick. So, I am not able to use the word trick. I can only use the word established in dharma and he played the whole game spontaneously. It's a pure, pure love and the pure sacrifice. So, I can't.. see we never understood Krishna in that way. We understood Krishna from the Western angle. See whatever we respect, first thing they did the moment they landed, they very clearly saw: these coolies cannot have strong respect about their culture and tradition. First abuse that. That is why Raasaleela was abused. Do you know the historical fact? Whole Raasleela happened within the age of ten? Krishna was not even ten. By ten, he left Vrindavan. Means what? It's a puppy love. Kids playing with each other. But how it is misrepresented and how it is abused? Understand. Just ten years kids and pure romance. See pure romance means just kids growing out of their…. just when the body gets matured, what response they will feel with each other, without any imaginations or fantasies added to their being. Pure romance. But how we understand Raasaleela? How we understand Krishna? It has nothing to do with pure romance. Totally distorted figure. Sameway the word trick or the word Krishna is the politician and all those things. It's an idea put into our head. See the pure sacrifice. Whole thing is sacrifice. It's a pure dharma, He was established in that pure dharmic consciousness. So, I am not able to attest your understanding about Krishna and even if it is right I won't prescribe. Please. I won't prescribe you to imitate.

Devotee: One more thing Swamiji.

Swamiji: I can only say this few words very strongly. I can .See one thing. Now whatever I am telling please add this technique to your life, just try for ten days. You will see the new opening in your brain. For all these words I am responsible. You can practice and I am available anytime. You can catch Me. And I know it is getting recorded. For all these words I am responsible. But I can't be responsible or I can't tell your understanding about Krishna is right or wrong or imitate that.

Delegate: One more thing Swamiji.

Swamiji: I can only say these very few words very strongly. I can .. see one thing now whatever I Am telling please add this technique to your life. Just try for ten days, you will see a new opening in your brain. For all these words I am responsible. You can practice and I am available anytime you can catch Me.

Delegate: Alright.

Swamiji: And I know it is getting recorded.

Delegate: Okay.

Swamiji: For all these words I am responsible. But I can’t be responsible, I can’t tell your idea.. your understanding about Krishna is right or wrong or imitate that.

Delegate: One more thing Swamiji. My personal observation. Once again I may be wrong. Regarding this courage, I have seen in my life umpteen times, umpteen people. Those who are smoking, those who are having liquor, they seem to be more stronger than people who are having vegetarian or simple life. Why so?

Swamiji: No. I am not promoting vegetarianism now and I am neither funded by any breweries to talk, to promote alcohol. So in My humble opinion, the vegetarianism, alcohol all these things doesn't have a direct relationship with your courage and all those things. With your courage or confidence or management skills and all those things. They don't have direct relationship. Usually when you..see..Two kinds of leaders are there. People who achieved the status, people who achieved the state. There are so many people who achieved the status by politicking. They have not achieved the state of the leadership. They are not having the leadership consciousness. They don't stay in the leader consciousness. Here what I am teaching is leader consciousness. When you achieve the leader consciousness, automatically non-veg drops you. You don't drop non-veg, non-veg drops you. Alcohol drops you. So, this kind of leaders are there and there are other kind of leaders who achieved the status but they may not have the state of the leader. They may not have the inner space of a leader. Maybe politicking. Or nobody else is there, just because of that emptiness, vacuum they have got their seat. So that kind of leaders, may have non-veg, may express courage. May have smoking. You cannot compare that scene. You cannot take that as a benchmark and say, “No, no, no, be vegetarians are not that courageous, that successful, not become that leaders.”

So, it is a state and status. See I do not know the science of how to achieve the status of leader, that you have to ask people who achieved that way. I can only teach you how to achieve the state of a leader. I tell you one thing surely state follows the status. The status is followed by the state. I don't think status, after the status, state should come. But sometime after achieving the status, people when they see the depression, they work for the state. That happens but it's not compulsion but usually not only usually I can guarantee if the state is achieved, status follows. Because when the non mechanical parts of your brain is awakened, you just live in a different way. And one more thing: the untapped resource on the planet earth, the most valuable, untapped resources of the planet earth is human resource. Untapped resource. If the… if our inner conscious, inner space is awakened, we call it the Pratyagatma Chaitanya Jagruta, you will do totally different things. And you will look, your understanding will be totally different. So, when the state is achieved, status is inevitable. It has to follow.

Delegate: Transformed many lives. Even in my case also, I learnt a lot from Dale Carnegie's books. How to win friends, inter personal skills and all by reading scriptures, by reading..

Swamiji: But I don't say that is transformation. Please understand. That's not a transformation. That may be make-up..see inter personal skills and all is a makeup. It's a skin deep. That's not a transformation. Please don't use the word transformation. Transformation means your very way of living will be different. Your very way of feeling about you as you, will be different. I can be sure..

Delegate: Positive thinking books, then Dale Carnegie's books.. it's really wonderful books and they transformed me.

Swamiji: See have they..

Delegate: Rather than this scriptures, whatever I read the Vedic scriptures or whatever it may be I read .. those thing did not help me..

Swamiji: 2 things: the way you may not have read the Vedic scriptures with understanding. You might have read in a different language in a different situation. That is one thing. Second thing the.. what the Dale Carnegie books have done, maybe the skin deep make-up. I can't, I can't, surely I can't understand that that can give you transformation. Transformation is, see if Dale Carnegie books makes you feel you different means, you never had an idea about you. You always thought about you as from the opinions of the others. When the others opinions have changed, you start thinking that you have changed. But that is not the ultimate transformation. I tell you transformation exactly, you feeling yourself as different. The transformation is totally different. So maybe if it is your experience, I accept and I respect your experience. But I can say from My experience that is not the case.