“MAYA…The Basic Understanding….”
MAYA…The Basic Understanding….
Let me analyze this question…if I analyze this one question… Whenever we come back to the waking state, it is the same. But when ever we go back to dream state it is not the same…maybe because of this we can say dream is a dream and waking state is a reality…
No! Understand one truth… What you think as time is nothing but projection of your mind, is nothing but projection of your mind. One example, one subtle example…carefully you need to understand… Sometimes in one night’s dream itself you will dream ten-twelve years of your life. You will start with your college and by the time you come out of the next day sleep, you would’ve finished all your marriage, kids and everything! Something like one decade you would’ve lived overnight! Am I right? How many of you have experienced like this sometime?
What does it mean? It means 10 years of your life you have lived in 10 hrs. Am I right? But when you are living in the dream itself, you don’t think, you don’t feel that you are doing fast forward. Do you feel? No! When you are living in the dream state you don’t feel you are doing fast forward, you are very clear that you are living your ten yrs life, but when you wake up suddenly you realize you have spent only 10 hrs! You spent only 10 hrs…you have not wasted 10 yrs. Understand, the same way, any moment you may wake up and feel you have not spent on the planet earth 70 yrs; it was only 7 hrs! One more thing…just 10 hrs dream you lived 10 yrs life. Let me give you a small diagram maybe that will give you more clear understanding. What was yesterday’s date, mm? Yesterday was 10th May? Ok, let us understand that between 9th May and 10th May you dreamed as if you lived one decade, 10 yrs. You dream in this 10 hrs itself as if you are studying in your college, and in that dream itself you fall asleep for a few days and come back. Am I right? Because the whole 10 years you can’t be without falling asleep. You are living a regular life. According to you, in that dream, see, in these 10 years you have lived 10 hours. Many times you go to college and come back, eat , sleep, dream. You have ups and downs in your dreams, right?
Your life goes on. Understand now an important thing…in this 10 years of life, in one continuous dream, from 9th night to 10th morning, you lived 10yrs of your life. Many times you would’ve fallen asleep and come back. Whenever you come back you are with the same identity, am I right? Within this dream, whenever you come back you are with the same identity. Am I right? You are able to understand? You are with the same identity, that is why starting with college, you move to the next step…the next step…the next step. So, within this dream, whenever you come back you are with the same identity. So whenever you come back, you having the same lifestyle or identity cannot say, cannot be the scale to prove it is reality. Within this dream, for example, all through the ten years you cannot be without falling asleep. Am I right? Your ten year dream cannot be a continuous scene. It will be only with breaks. So naturally, in these breaks you fall asleep and come back. So when you fall asleep and come back this same dream only continues. Am I right? It means just falling asleep and coming back and finding the same bank balance, car, house and wife does not mean you are in reality. Any doubt? Are you very clear now? See, this is a very important understanding. We call it kshaniga. In Sanskrit, in our tradition, we call this as kshaniga. It is a very deep understanding. This understanding can lead to such sharp analyses about your life. You will have clarity in so many things. Yes, in so many things you will have a deep clarity. One thing, to tell you honestly, if you understand everything is maya you will not renounce, actually; you will live with everything without being disturbed. That is the truth; yes, that is the truth. All the great enlightened Masters or the great monasteries, the big monasteries which are teaching the great truth maya they all live with so much of wealth. You should know one fact: 72% of Bharat’s gold is sitting inside temples and monasteries. If Bharat has 100 kg gold, 72 % is sitting inside the temples and monasteries! In south Bharat alone there are 700 hundred temples with golden towers…imagine, 700 temples with golden towers! Here I was surprised to see people wearing small, small golden jewellery. Just 1gm, 2gms…when you understand the reality or truth of maya, it is not that you will escape from the wealth and I am not even asking you to escape from the wealth. You will have honest respect for the outer world but you will never be caught, you will never internalize it. You will never suffer for it; you will never suffer because of it. Let’s go back. See, in that 10 hrs of one night you dream 10 yrs. Ten years of life cannot be at a stretch one scene. There will always be a break. You may first have the scene as if you are going to college and studying. Suddenly after one small gap there will one more scene as if you are writing your exams. Sometimes after few seconds of break, you don’t even know whether it is few seconds or few hours because some times you will finish the 70 % of your dreams in the 1st 20 minutes and then 8hrs gap and you will finish the other 30 % of your dream. You won’t even know there was a gap. Then you will come back and decide to get married. Then you come back and go for the next decision of having kids and so on. There is a one liner: for 18 years I and my wife were the happiest people. The other guy asked, ‘then what happened?’ ‘Oh, we both met each other.’
So something like this may happen in your dream life. Understand, every time you fall asleep, give a break and come back, you are having the same identity. You are having the same house, the same car, the same bank balance, same name, and same personality. Am I right? So, coming back and having the same personality or identity or assets does not mean you are in reality. Because in dream state also this happens.
Just like this 10 yr dream is done in 10 hrs, there may be a different calendar where your 70 yrs, for example 1950 to 2020, maybe just 7 hrs for somebody! You understand? Just like the ten years you had in the dream, is 10 hrs in a different state. Every possibility that your 70 yrs maybe 7 hrs if you are in a different state, if you are in different space! In Sanskrit, we call this kshaniga means, if the number of thoughts is more you will feel as if you are living more time. One example…this will completely make you understand. If you are sitting with someone whom you really love, feeling in tune, feeling connected…this dress is not made for materialistic life….it is created for renouncing…even if you want to hold something you cannot hold! Ok. If you are sitting with someone with whom you are completely in tune, you will not even know how many hours passed. Suddenly you will realize, oh, God, three, four hours are over! What happened? If you are sitting with somebody with whom you don’t feel connected, every five minutes what will you do? Not only will you keep seeing the watch you will really suspect whether the watch has stopped or not! I think the watch has stopped. It is not moving, what is going on? If the number of thoughts is more you will feel as if you have had too much of time. That is why in Vedic tradition, the unit of time is not second; it is called kshana. Understand? According to Western understanding, the chronological time is calculated with the unit second. It means that one unit of time is one second. In Vedic tradition time is calculated in kshana. Kshana means the gap between one thought and the other thought. According to Western calendar, understanding, your one second and my one second is one and the same. But according to Vedic calendar your one kshana and my one kshana will be different. Time is not chronological; it is psychological. Gap between one thot and the other thought is kshana In dream state you have too many numbers of thoughts. That is why you feel as if you have lived for long time. If the thoughts per second (TPS) is more, high TPS, that is why, you feel in dream, too much of time has been spent. Here, in the waking state, there is medium TPS; that is why 10 yrs looks like 10 hrs. In the waking state’s 10 hours you finish 10 years of dream state. if you bring your TPS much less, you will realize your 70 yrs is just 70 hrs. That is why we say, for the devatas (celestial beings) for whom the TPS is less, our one year is one day for them. Still, if you know the Vedic calendar, the one year in manushya loka is one day of devaloka. That is why Nataraja, the deity of the devatas, he will have only 6 pooja’s in the whole year. He is not worshipped according to human calendar. He is worshipped according to the divine calendar. Only 6 times in a year He will be worshipped, means, in human temples every day 6 pooja will happen. But as that is considered as the temple of the devatas only 6 pooja’s will happen in one whole year. For us one year is for devatas one day because their TPS is very low. Just because when you get back you see the same car, the same body, the same hairstyle it does not mean you are in reality. This can happen to you even while you are in the dream state. Only when you come to the better state, means, when you bring your TPS down. If your TPS becomes more, even in the waking state, you will have hallucinations and day dreaming TPS becoming more only creates too much of dreaming. If the TPS is less you will be in waking state. If you bring your TPS much lower, you will be in Samadhi state, what we call turiya. Only when you bring your TPS down, you will understand reality. You see, in jagrat, the waking state only you realized that the dream state was not reality. If you are in the dream state will you realize you are not in reality? No! You are going through everything in the same way. You respond to everything; you have nightmare, you have all the problems. Whether you are in greed or fear, you respond to it; it was completely real. A 4-D experience, not even 3-D, its 4-D …in the Universal Studios they rock your chair to give you the 4-D experience. It is so real. Only when you come down, your TPS is brought down in the jagrat state, the waking state, you realize the swapna, the dream state, was an illusion. It was maya. So in the same way to understand this is maya, bring your TPS down. Come down, come to the turiya state; suddenly you will realize that this is also maya! One more thing, this very logical understanding that this too is maya will encourage you to bring your TPS down. Why your TPS is not coming down? Because all these things are occupying your inner space. Whatever you were seeing in the dream state was occupying your mind in the dream. That is why you were never able to experience it as dream. Let’s take an example: In the dream state you may have a thousand or more TPS. In the waking state you can say 100 TPS. In the Samadhi state, it is zero TPS. Only in the waking state you will understand that the dream state is an illusion. In the same way only in the Samadhi state you will understand the waking state is an illusion. As on now your inner space is too much occupied with all that you experience in the waking state. That is why you are never allowed to go into the Samadhi state. One more thing, it is like a vicious circle. As long as you are enjoying the dream you will never get out of it; only when you get out you will realize it is just a dream. As long as you are enjoying the waking state, you will never get out; and unless you get out you will not understand it is an illusion! It is like a vicious circle; you are caught in the vicious circle. Now Shiva comes to help us. Shiva’s technique or method which He is teaching will give us the information, the understanding on how to get out of the waking state. See, a very subtle and important point: whether you are in the dream state or waking state or Samadhi state, the dreamer is the same! Whether you are seeing a 1000TPS dream, or a 100 TPS dream, or a 0 TPS feeling, the dreamer is the same! Whenever your attention is removed from the seen to the seer you come to the next state, you wake up! Whenever your attention is diverted from the seen to the seer, you wake up! In the dream state, you can see in your life, any strong dream, means which you can’t handle. Too much of greed or too much of fear will put you into the seer. If your energy is turned from the seen to the seer you wake up from that state. Same way, in the waking state also, if your energy is turned from the seen to the seer, you will wake up to the Samadhi state.
This is the technique, this is the key: to turn your awareness from the seen to the seer.
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