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topic is the Shiva Sutras, the how to Enlightenment, too little talk, too little subject. First of all you should know, few things about Enlightenment.When I use the word enlightenment I do not mean that you’ll grow a new tooth once, No. Or you will have some extra special powers, No. You will have some siddhis, you will have some new powers. When I say the word Enlightenment, I don't mean you will have Shakti, I mean you will have Buddhi.
There is a beautiful story : “Somebody goes to Sri Maharishi, a great enlightened Master, who lived in South Bharat, Bhagavan Sri Maharishi. He asked Bhagavan, please give me some Shakti, some powers, some Siddhis. Bhagavan just laughs and says: The power that you have already, you are not able to manage, you are not able to be happy. Then he said “no” I don't have any power, how do you say I have some power? Bhagavan said: “What Job are you doing?”. He said I am a Manager! It means you have the power to employ two person, you have power to remove two person from job. You have a power to handle a certain amount of mind. You have power to handle one family. That much of power you have.
Are you happy, totally peaceful, blissful with the powers that you had? He said “No”. Sometimes I am not able to handle about which I have, I am not able to take the responsibility. I am suffering, thats why I come to you. Bhagavan asked, then when you know that you are not able to handle the powers that you have already, why do you want some more power? Ask for Buddhi not for Shakti. There's a clear understanding which you need to know. Shakti to make your dreams into reality, is one, Buddhi to realize whatever your reality is, nothing but your dream, is another one. Understand, these two things. Shakti, to make all your dreams into reality. This is what Siddhis, Shaktis, Energy. Booty means intelligence to understand whatever is your reality is whatever you think as reality is nothing but your dreams.
Making your dreams into reality you need Shakti. Realizing, all whatever you think as reality, is nothing but your dreams. You need Buddhi, when I said the word Enlightenment I mean Buddhi, the intelligence, or the realization. Whatever you are seeing, is nothing but your dreams. Enlightenment means, entering into the consciousness, or awareness, of beyond this dream, and deep sleep state. Achieving the fourth state, what we call Turya. Realizing, whatever you see as reality, is nothing but your dream, is what I call enlightenment. Of course, when somebody becomes enlightenment, he expresses many different divine powers, and Siddhis, that is allowed as an expression of Enlightenment.
But you can't think or understand if somebody has got power he is enlightened. With enlightenment power will express, that is different, but power doesn't mean someone is Enlightened. In our life also we should intensely work for enlightenment. It is enlightenment which really means, and all other powers, whatever power, you get without enlightenment, is nothing but, housekeeping in your dreams. You purchase a beautiful house, let your house and your wife clean, keep everything nicely. Suddenly you wake up, what happens? You realize, the all this is dream, there is nothing.
Same way, all our Shaktis are nothing but housekeeping in dreams. Suddenly you wake up and the whole thing is black night. Look in to your being deeply and work for Buddhi not for Shakti. As long as you want Shakti, again and again you would be cheated because of your greed. See, many people complain I have been cheated by this person, I have been cheated by this person, I have been cheated by that person, why? You never understand! The moment greed enters into your being, it becomes gullible. Simply anybody can cheat us, it is greed for Shakti, which totally destroys you. So greed for Buddhi, anywhere, when you work for Buddhi, simply Shakti follows you, simply Shakti follows you.
Again and again Bhagavan says, Sri Krishna says in the Gita, when you work to reach me, all the Ishwaryas simply did following you. But when you work to reach my Shakti, neither you get that nor you reach me. When I say the word enlightenment, I mean, working for Buddhi, not for Shakti. When you work for Buddhi, simply Shakti will follow you, Shakti will follow you. The how to Enlightenment. Many people come and ask me: “Swamiji first of all why we have bondage? Why this suffering? Why this girl came into existence?” I tell them, see to tell you honestly, I don't know why.
If at all God calls for a round table conference, once more I’ll ask him, I will come and tell you. The why can never be answered, whomsoever try to answer the why, they created only Philosophies. The why is asked from the level of logic, and the existence is beyond of the level of logic. It is beyond reasons, beyond logic. So the why can never be addressed, the why can never be answered, we can’t reduce the existence to our level of logic. People ask me, Swamiji, why don't you prove God's logic? I tell them, “No”, he is God because he can not be proved by logic. The moment you can prove it by logic, the logic will become God. Logically become higher than him. When you ask why, why we are in bondage? Why we are in suffering? Why so much differences in the World? The why can never be answered. The only way is how?
There are two kinds of minds, one is why, who creates philosophy which is intellectual which wants only words, words, words, mere words, nothing else. The next is how, who wants the immediate solution, the people who want a solution, people who are very practical. When you ask how to enlightenment, you just want to liberate yourself, you just want to move towards the goal. You have no time to waste on intellectual theories, intellectual philosophies. In Bharat we use a beautiful word Shastra Jala Maharanya, means a big forest of literature, big forest of literatures. Amazon books, that is why I think Amazon done the website with the right name for books. Now I understand why they name those website as Amazon.com. It is actually amazon Shastra Jala Maharanya, it is just a big forest. When you are lost, neither you reach enlightenment, nor you understand how to go on voltage. You are just lost with words.
I have seen people just wasting their lives, in words, words, words, neither reaching the Enlightenment nor working for it. And one more thing, the danger is, they don't even know, they don't even understand, they don't even feel that they are not working for it. The intellect gives you such deep satisfaction, it almost makes you feel, you are looking for it. Intellect is a poor substitute for intelligence. It is your, almost, just around the corner feeling. It is there, it is there, after all I know. So naturally, without even knowing, we are just wasting our time.
When you ask why, you'll end it up on in philosophies. When you, whomsoever try to answer the question, why this existence is, why this Universe is, they created one more philosophy. Whomsoever try to answer everyone, of the One created one more, philosophy, one more philosophy, and one more thing is very difficult to retain this philosophy. It's very difficult with these professors first of all and philosophers, because the difficulty is, you see, if you understand the word philosophy first. Anything if it is made complicated, anything simple, if you can make it complicated, you will become a philosopher. If you can complicate anything simple with words you can become philosopher. Any simple thing you can make philosophy out of it. You can make philosophy out of on a simple thing just with a little bit of intelligence, how to make it more complicated, how to make things more complicated.
The moment you catch the trick or technique, how to make the things more complicated, you are a philosopher, you are a philosopher and I have my own feeling. The philosopher got something missing in there, that is why he took up the path of philosophy, otherwise, any intelligent man, they straight away start working, to achieve the truth, such a, greater thing. When you want to achieve the truth. Straight away you only start working for it, if you're working for philosophy, somewhere something is missing.
Once some young guy goes to someone and asks, sir should I marry? Society says, sure, you must marry. Then he said, but you are not having a happy married life, yours wife use to beat you, and used to always live outside the house in veranda, and all his philosophies is only for the others. To his wife he will just listened, he just obeyd, he cant speak in front of her. The guy refers to this and says the young guy: After all you are not having a happy married life, then why you asked me to marry? Why do you recommend marriage for me? Society said; “You'll see, only two things can happen, either you'll have good wife, happy married life, then naturally, you'll have a beautiful life, that's ok, otherwise, you may have like mine. Even if that is the case, you'll become a philosopher like me.”
It's good for society, either way is going to be good, either a happy married life, or become a philosopher like me maybe. Either way is going to help you. So I did some way, when you are not enough practical, when you are not enough intelligent, we stop just because of why, the why is not enough, the why is not going to solve. Why is going to only, is like an itching. Any philosophy is like an itching. For a few minutes is ok, but again it's more, and after a half an hour again you itch. You feel nice when you scratch. Philosophy is also, is nothing but intelligence itching, it feels nice, but it's not going to solve the problem. It's not going to end, is not going to give the solution.
“How”, is the right word. When you approach the God or the Master, with the word why, you will never get an answer. You will never get an answer. When you approach the God or the Master with how, he will straight take your hand, not only the answer you will totally solve the problem, not only solve it, resolved, he will dissolve the problem.
Here Shiva was questioned by a great disciple Uma, Devi. Devi is questioning, she was concerned, she was questioning. Shiva all the questions are only based on how not on why. You hould understand an important thing:” When you ask why, you get only philosophies, more and more confusion. Only when you ask how, the solution is given to you. Masters also wait, till the disciple gets mature. You see the Gita, it starts with why. Arjuna is again and again asking only whys, whenever he uses the word why, Master has to speak, only what you want to listen. See with why you are more Intellectually entered, intellectual, you are not ready to go for a solution. It means you have not suffered enough. They will keep you in suffering.
That is why the earning questions of Gita is nothing but answers for why. Only when Arjuna says I am tired, now I'm more confused than when we started. At one point Arjuna says: “Enough, I am tired. Now I am more confused than when you started. Please give me some solutions!” Then Krishna beautifully says: “Drop everything and surrender 22:26 SANSKRIT WORDS, only then he gives the technique. Surrender is the ultimate technique. For how to get Enlightenment, how to reach the Enlightenment? Krishna has to wait till the eighteen Chapter, to tell the ultimate truth, straight away to the disciple, because the disciple is not mature enough.
Again and again this guy is asking, Arjuna is asking: 23:00 SANSKRIT WORDS, again and again he is stuck with why. He never comes straight away to the point how. When you are putting the why at different ways, again and again you get only philosophies, again and again you get only more words. And I tell, no person can be answered by words. This is, people come and ask me, Swamiji, we know, people who continuously follow my programs, they come and ask me, all over the world continually you are given discourses. Speaking, speaking, speaking, every day in some place or other.
You see our Website, you can see, complete, this year calendar is full, not even a single day is free, till 2006 completely the calendar is filled. Somewhere out there, speak, giving public discourse, or meditation camp, some program. People ask me, you continuously speak hours together. Of course then speaking can be done, because people are sitting and listening. That is not a problem. How do you answer the questions? Continuously the people are asking. You are facing a different level of minds, different people, different culture, different persons, how do you continue to manage? You have answers for every question”. I tell you an important secret. You can even take this as a secret. “It is simply a trick to divert your mind from the question, that's all.
No question can be answered, I straighaway honestly tell you, no question can be answered by words, I just add more words, so that you feel tired. You are just tired and can't say enough, enough, enough, I understood. You just get bored, and you say enough I understood, enough. It is nothing answered, it was nothing as a technique, to had, technique to had more words, so that you feel tired, you feel bored. Let me be very open and I am honest, you cannot get the solution to any question by words.
If you feel you are satisfied, by getting some words for any question, be very clear, you are just, either you are cheating yourself, or you don't even know you are cheated, that's all. No question can be answered by words, I can give only a little more words, so that you feel a little tired and stop asking questions. All technology of answering questions is nothing but making you a little tired, or diverting your mind, so that you will stop questioning. It is nothing, there is nothing as answering through words. If at all you do have that solution, it can happen only when you ask how, never by why. The moment you ask how, immediately the technique is delivered. You get a solid clear path, through which you can solve the problems.
You can realize and experience the ultimate, I tell you, if you understand that one you can become a great teacher. Just learn how to make people tired. Whenever they put questions, whenever they put questions use such words, they should feel they have understood. But they should not understand. You should give him an idea that they understood, but they should not understand, then you are a great teacher, then it is over, training is over. You are done.
Is a simple technique, very simple technique, it's nothing but making people a little tired. Intellectually make them tired. See that is what has to be done, no other way. Whenever you ask why, it can never be addressed. No whys can be addressed. Always you can create one more why. Always you can create the next why, no whys can be addressed, only one word can be addressed, “How”. Only “How” can be addressed.
When you ask how, really are also sincere, Master is also sincere, as long as you are stuck with why, you are beating around the bush and Master is helping you, that's all. When Arjuna is stuck with why, Krishna is also playing with the words. You see, after 18 Chapters, Krishna says: 28:29 SANSKRIT WORDS. People don't have to memorize all the 18 Chapters. He said this whole thing na, first Chapter, but let me translate that word: 28:44 SANSKRIT WORDS means drop all the Dharmas, just surrender, I’ll take care of you, take care of everything. I’ll give you the liberation, it's a wonderful technique. Is one of the important techniques, you see, understand, when Krishna says I’ll liberate you, he is not egoistic, the very surrender will liberate you. That is what he means, the very surrender will liberate you.
The very surrender to Krishna, or Christ, or Shiva, or Rama or whomsoever, or just a stone. If you keep a stone and think that stone is a God, and surrender to that stone, that will liberate you. The very power of surrender can liberate you. It is not that, it is not important to whom you surrender. It is important how deeply your surrender is. The simple surrender can liberate you. It is not at all necessary to whom you're surrendering. You need to understand only a thing. The very surrender can liberate you. Actually this Krishna could have told, in the first chapter, we don't have to act, we don't have to memorize all the 18 Chapters. But Arjuna was not ready, is not ready to listen. The word, he is not ready to listen. He is not coming to the question of how, he is continuously stuck with the question why. Here unlike Arjuna, Devi, Uma Devi starts, straightaway she starts with how: “Oh Shiva please guide me, how to reach your state? How to achieve your state? How to realize the ultimate consciousness? Because the question is so straight, and the questioner wants the solution. Shiva straight away started to give the answer, he straight away started with the technique.
According to me, from my experience, this is the ultimate book ever I read. I can call this the book of books. Shiva sutras, is the book of books. If God asks me to choose only one book in the planet Earth, if he asks you have to choose only one book, surely I will choose only this book, the Shiva Sutras, because if this one book is preserved. Again we can create a whole human civilization. Whatever is the root cause of this civilization, whatever when I say whatever, I mean whatever. Whether all the philosophies, all the science, all conscious growth, all possible growth, all the roots I can say, all the seeds, are preserved in this one book. I can say it is unabridge encyclopedia of whatever on the planet earth or in universe. It is unabridge encyclopedia of consciousness.
Straight away Shiva starts this book with the techniques, no wastage of time, no wastage of energy, no wastage of words. See, you can always write a book called Gita Sara, means : The essence of Gita. But you can never write a book call essence of Shiva Sutras because there is no waste. The whole book is essence. In Gita Krishna waste, Arjuna wasted a lot of time, by putting intellectual questions. Krishna has no other choice, he has to answer all the intelligent questions, and one more thing, unless your intellect is convinced you are not ready to listen. Unless your intellect is tired you are not ready to take quantum leaps.
People ask me, in our meditation camps I just tell the people, please stop reading. But in public discourses, I always tell the people: “Please read all spiritual phrases”. I encourage reading. They ask me, what is this Swamiji? In the beginning you tell us , you are encouraging the reading, later on you asking us to stop reading, we can't read. Why? I tell them, I asked you to read, so that you will stop questioning, so that you will start feeling, feel tired. and one more thing, the beauty is when you read more and more literatures, you just so thoroughly confused. You get so thoroughly confused, you are tired of reading, you are tired of reading, and will come to a certain maturity, to enter into that experience. Unless you are tired of reading, unless you are intellectually tired, you will not work for experience. We will not go for experience.
As long as our intellect is not tired he will continuously asking, only for intellectual stuff. Even if you're given techniques, you will create philosophy out of it, you will create theories out of it. First thing, our intellectually should become a little tired. That is what Krishna does in 18 chapters, the 18 chapters. Once the guy is totally tired, Arjuna is tired, with all this intelectual stuff, comes the straight, clear answer, becomes the straight, clear answer. Here there is no need for any intellectual gymnasium. There is no need for any words, you don't have to play with words. There is no need for any brain candy, again and again that's what I say, brain candies. The intellectual play it is a brain candy.
When you ask why, you will get only brain candy, you will not get the truth, only when you ask why, only when you ask how not why, only when you ask how you will get the technique or the truth, straight away the solution. Devi asks straightaway how. How to reach the state of Shiva consciousness? How to reach the Enlightenment? How to realize the Enlightenment? Shiva starts speaking, he goes on, goes on, goes on, beautifully describes 112 Sutras, 112 meditation techniques. These techniques are created for past, present and future of humanity. All the minds can achieve Enlightenment with these techniques. All the locks can be open with these keys. Eere is a setup of 112 master keys, there's no lock which will not be opened by these setup keys.
Such wonderful keys, such wonderful meditation techniques, such wonderful Sutras Shiva delivers. It is, you can say, whatever you name, there's a solution for that problem in that book. Whatever, whatever way, you wanted to reach the ultimate there is a but, there is a clear solution and answer. Of course, I’ll speak one technique of Shiva. I’ll try to describe one technique of Shiva, surely you can't see all the level techniques, in such a short time. We will see today one technique, one Sutra. Will work on that one Sutra, so that we can have a glimpse of Shiva Consciousness. We can have a glimpse of the experience of Shiva. After explaining this technique will have a question answer, because you see, listening to a discourse is like a reading a menu card. Putting some questions and tying your intellect is like eating. I ask you to put some questions, just now I told the secret of how I asked the questions, but again I'm encouraging you to put some questions, why.
Whatever is said and done, unless your intellect is a little tired, you cannot enter into meditation. You see one thing, our mind moves only based on logic. It's like a, for example that are three statements. First statement : all human beings have got one head. The second statement: Society is the human being, now other statement, Society has got one head. First two statements you have to verify, only then you go to believing the third statement. Same way, here, whether my discourse or the question and answer, you must participate intellectually, and your intellect must feel a little tired or bored, and you should start feeling enough, now I am feeling logically convinced. Only then you will start entering into meditation technique.
Now I will give you a very simple, but very powerful, very simple, but very powerful technique of meditating on reaching the fourth state. When I say the fourth state Turiya. Turiya means: “The state beyond, dream, waking, and deep sleep.” Now as from you know only three states. The waking state, the waking state is the state in which you are now. Almost everyone of you are in waking state, its a view. The next thing is the dream state, which you experience at the time of dreaming, the third is the deep sleep state, which is experienced at the time of deep sleep. So when I say the fourth state Turiya I mean which is beyond these three spaces, which is beyond these three states. Turiya is the ultimate state of Enlightenment!
It's a very simple thing, before entering into dream, or before entering into deep sleep, or before entering into conscious state. Actually every day you go through, through all these three states. There are three in every day in your routine you undergo all these three states: waking state,dream state and deep sleep state. Whenever you go from to one state to other state you always go through these fourth state called Turiya. For a moment, just you have a glimpse of this fourth state. You always experience the fourth state, only then you go into other state. There is the, that is the way be launch, transit launch. Unless you enter into that state, you can't go through the other state. Whether it is from conscious to waking, or waking to dream state and dream to conscious. Whatever it may be, you have to go through, only through Turiya the fourth state. Every day, again and again, you are experiencing the fourth state, only thing you don't not know how to experience it.
The conscious how to state, the moment you experienced, the moment you experience it consciously you can start staying in it. Only thing, we do not know how to start staying in it. It is like a fraction of a second, a microsecond. We miss that state, it disappears from you or moves away from you. If you can stay in the same state consciously, you are enlightened, you are enlightened. Let me explain the technique, When you sit with the open eyes you will be seeing what you call as waking state. When you close your eyes naturally you will see your visualizations, your dream state, and if you can sit with closed eyes without visualizations, that is what we call Turiya or the fourth state.
How to do it? See whenever you visualize, you can see in a very subtle way, your tongue will also be moving, because you can’t think, you can’t do the inner chattering. Unless you have a slight movements in your tongues. Whenever you think, there is like, whenever you think then there is slight movements in your tongues. Whenever you visualize that there is a slight movement in your eyeballs. If we can stop both, and relax with our being, straight away you can fall into the fourth state Turya. You don't have to struggle with your mind. People again and again ask me, how to meditate? I’m not able to meditate, my mind is not controlled, what can I do? It’s a straight technique.
Now after explaining the technique and after having the question and answer session, I’ll guide into step by step. We can experience this technique. Stopping the eyeball movement, stopping the movement of your tongue, and just witnessing your energetic. When you witness, it will simply disappear. Just for a few minutes, neither you'll create a thought nor you will sustain a thought or you will try to destroy a thought. See creation is Brahma, sustaining is Vishnu, destroying is Shiva. When you do not do all this three you become Parambrahama, neither creating, nor sustaining or destroying. When you don't do all these three you'll become Parabrahma. So understand, we will enter into this technique. One of the techniques described in the Shiva sutras.
Powerful looks very simple, only when you do it, you’ll understand, it's very powerful. Power will get simple with meditation technique, we will enter into the technique. Before we come through the program, now I’ll go back to questions and answers. Anybody who has got any questions, you are welcome! Speaker: “Swamiji, did Shiva actually lived a physical life on this planet?” Swamiji: Nice question. Yes, Shiva lived on the planet Earth with a physical body, later on we started worshiping him. Actually, God means nothing but enlightened Masters. The inch the world and time. All the enlightenment Masters are only worshipped.
Slowly, slowly by and by, we started worshiping the Masters and making them Gods. So Shiva lived on this planet Earth in flesh and blood with form. Other speaker; “Swamiji, how exactly do you describe the word Surrender, when you say we should surrender what it means?” Swamiji: “Hum, this beautiful question.” How exactly would you describe the word Surrender? And what are we supposed to do? Swamiji: “It's like this. If you're asked to choose only one person on the planet Earth, suddenly God says: “Old bondages will be going to be washed away. You can be alive, only one person can be alive with you, whom you will choose? Tell me whom you will choose?” Speaker; “My Ishta Devta, my Guru!” Swamiji: “It means your surrender to him that's all. Whom you will choose? You will surrender to him. If you’ll choose, If you’ll honestly decide, give a thought to yourself, If you’ll choose your husband, be very clear, you’ll surrender to him. If you choose your child, be very clear you will surrender to him. It is like a whom you will choose you have surrendered to that person.
A deep positive attachment of feeling connected completely to that person is what I call surrender. Surrender does not mean given away all your properties or given away all your time or given away all your energy, All those things does not mean by word Surrender. I have seen many people, it is very easy to give away their properties. It is very easy to give away, but feeling totally connected is what I call surrender. You see, you can easily give the outwardly things, that's not a big deal. I have seen many people giving the outwardly things, and offering all their properties to some Temple, to some church, to some spiritual institution, to some organization . That's not a big deal, and easily can be done. One more thing they're write only, after their death it will go. After your death it is not going to help you.
It's like it is useless for you, when it is useless, naturally “Oh why not to give to some spiritual institution?” But I don't think that is surrender. Surrender means feeling deeply connected, with the Master or with the God whomsoever you trust is the moment you remember that, your whole being will feel the flowerish consciousness, feel electric. The moment you remember that person, you just feel something is happening in you. You just start smiling and people will ask what is happening why you are smiling. You just feel like flowering, it means you have surrendered to that person, that's all. The moment you remember him, if you are lifted to his consciousness, you are surrendered, you are surrendered to him. That's what I mean by the word surrender. Surrender does not mean giving away your time, giving away your property or giving away the energy, giving away anything else, it Is just feeling totally, deeply connected to that Guru or to that God and one more thing you don't even have to bother at to whom you are surrendering, if you just feeling surrender, connected, feeling connected, that's enough.
Many times there's one more difficulty, in the modern mind, in the modern mind, in the modern day. You surrender to the some Guru, you feel connected, suddenly, you heard some rumor about him, your whole faith is shaken, you are in great difficulty, your trust is tested but I tell you, the first thing: You don't have to bother about the rumor.” Next thing: Even if it is true, you don't have to bother, because your very surrender will transform you. You don't have to bother to whom you're surrendering, you don't have to worry to whom your surrendering. Your very surrender will transform you. The very surrender has got a capacity for potential energy to transform your being. You don't have to bother to whom you are surrendering. You do not have to continuously keep watching. The very power of surrender can transform you. The very power of surrender can liberate you.
Speaker: “Swamiji if we use the word Quantum Leap. Do we have that actually from our Vedas and Puranas. Do we have a concept of Quantum Leap?” Yes. Krishna is here, at the same time. Is it possible? Not only it is possible. Vedas and Upanishads are based on the concept of Quantum. See the first Upanishad is, the first Veda is Rig Veda, the first Upanishad, the first Mantra is
“Om Poornamadhah Poornamidham Poornaath Poornam Udhachyathey | Poornasya Poornamaadhaaya Poornamevaavasishyathey || || Om Shanti Shanti Shantih ||.”
All Quantum physics is over, this one Sutra is complete quantum physics. See here they say the hole remains is a hole when the hole is removed from the hole. You can't understand, explain this based on Mathematics, “No”. You can explain this only based on quantum. You see the last word of science is Quantum, the first word of Vedas is Quantum. First word of the first Veda of the first Upanishad is Quantum.
“Om Poornamadhah Poornamidham Poornaath Poornam Udhachyathey | Poornasya Poornamaadhaaya Poornamevaavasishyathey || || Om Shanti Shanti Shantih ||.”
Sorry I dont have the right word to translate about it, the word whole is not equal to the word for Purna, Purna, cannot be translated, is only a concept.
There are few concepts which can not be translated, the whole quantum physics explains in this one Sloka, very clearly this Sloka says the sephorism says the hole remains as hole when the hole is removed from the hole. When the hole is removed from the hole, the hole remains as hole. A clear Bigbang and a Black hole theory. See, in the Black hole, everything goes and merges and the Black hole also disappears. Logically you can't explain, and the same way Bigbang. Simply out of nothing, the whole thing is created. But the hole remains just a hole. When the hole is taken in this hole, the hole remains us as hole is pure Quantum physics, is pure Quantum and is, one more thing. I tell you, a Yogi or a Vedanti is more practical more straight than a modern day Quantum physicist. Because, he knows not only the why, he knows the how also.
The Quantum physics, they are stuck only with the why, they do not want to go to the step how. The other day, I had the opportunity to meet one of the great scientist, a wonderful person. He discovered a laser, and his name is doctor Charles Towns, and I have a nice time with him. I have an opportunity to have lunch with him. I was talking to him: “Sir, how did you come up with this discovery? How it happened?” He told me, Swamiji it is just a revelation, it is just a revelation. I do not know how this happens. I was just sitting at a Park in Washington DC, on a bench earlier morning. I was tired, my intellect was totally tired. I was thinking, thinking, thinking about this problem. I was supposed to address a meeting, on the Discovery. They are going to ask me about updates, but I don't have anything to speak. I was continuously worrying, worrying. Finally I was tired, when I was tired I drop, stopped the thinking. I just sat, I just sat, on the bench, in Washington DC Park, in a Park in Washington DC, a bench, a morning, Saturday earlier morning. I was just sitting, suddenly something came out of my being, I know for sure without any doubt this formula will work and I simply pen it down. I wrote down.
That day the meeting was there, but I was not able to speak about this in the meeting. Because I don't know the logical steps, I know only the conclusion. I dont have the logical steps. So I went and took few days to do the logical steps, after that, I presented to the group, or I presented to the Community which I am suppose to address. He says Swamiji is a straight thing. In Science we always speak steps, then conclusion, but when I had the conclusion, it was just delivered to me as a conclusion, as revelation. I don't know the steps, later I had to work to search it again. I was not only able to give a logical conclusion. That's what I told them it is called. Shruti, Shruti means just heard. You experienced, you don't know the logical conclusion, you don't know the logical steps, it is just revealed to you.
It is just revealed to you. The first Sutra of the Upanishad, the first Upanishad is Quantum Physics, the Quantum concept. And one more thing, at least physics people, they are only stuck with why. Once in a while, they get a glimpse, but the Masters, the Mystics, they know the how also, how to get in tune with the revelations, how to get in tune with the revelations, they are one step ahead. The Mystics are a little deeper in the Quantum area, in the Quantum Science. Speaker: “What does it mean when you wear the white powder on your eyebrow? Swamiji: “The white? Oh I did apply it properly. That is the meaning. It is exactly a reminder for you, again and again that the whole world, whatever you see, is nothing but ashes. So again and again remember the ultimate.
Don't be just stuck with what you are seeing, see beyond what you can't see. When a person sees beyond what he can see, he becomes seer. Rishi is a man who sees beyond what you can see. It is just to remind you that you are supposed to see beyond what you can see. Speaker: “What is the snake wrapped around Lord Shiva's neck?” Swamiji: “Oh, I think you should ask him one day. I don't know. Snake is used as a representative of Kundalini Shakti in Sanatana Dharma. I don't know why it is wrapped around his neck.” Speaker: “Is there any significance of three knots around the snake?” Swamiji; “No, I have no idea, I can give some significance, some connection but I don't want to give unless I feel convinced about it. I can convince you but I will not be convinced. So let me be very clear, I don't have an idea.” About why the three knot or why he stands like this, why Shiva having the hand like this. All those things I don't know. Maybe as they felt it at that time, maybe it was like that at that time, that's all.
Speaker: “How can a Mystics be in relationship to the rest of the world which is not Mystic?” Oh, you see one thing, with intellect in the philosopher, you always have this problem. He can't relate to the world. After sometime, he can't relate with the world. He is a, he becomes eccentric or he starts having a pride, that he is something more than others. With the Mystic, always there is something called compassion happen to him. If you have only intelligence, without compassion you are a philosopher. If you have compassion also, you become a Mystic. In sanskrit they say three words beautiful words: If we have only physical strength without spiritual strength, we become a Gunda, a ganster, criminal. If we have only intellectual strength, without spiritual strength we become a philosopher or cunning politician. If we have spiritual strength only then we can become as Mystic. Spiritual strength means compassion.
When a Mystic happens, when someone becomes a Mystic, the compassion starts radiating around him. He can simply relive with the world. The compassion just oozes out. We can't relate with the people only when we don't have compassion, the pride and the ego, stops us from relating with the world. When we have the compassion, you become such an authentic being. You’ll start radiating love, and you start relating with the whole crowd, you can start radiating with the mass. And from my experience I can tell you, only a Mystic is a person authorized to relate to the world. Nobody else can relate, everybody else only can pretend, they can't relate. Only a Mystic can relate with the mass, with the humanity, with the rest of the world.
You don't have to get because you have, if you don't have only then you need to get, you have so you don't have to get, all you need is just start expressing. Next thing, if somebody decides how long it is going to take, with the right conscious decision, with your clear cut choice, simply this moment there is no need for time. The moment you think it is going to take time, you know only how to postpone. You will only, postpone, postpone, postpone.
There is a beautiful story, somebody took some loan. The guy who gave him money came to his house to take the money back. He puts a boat, come tomorrow. Every day he comes and sees the boat, come tomorrow and go back, come tomorrow, come tomorrow. The moment you know how to postpone, you will postpone forever. Either now here or nowhere. I tell you, let your struggle, let your decision be so strong, so intense, simply you can release it now and with this sharp techniques specially these techniques from Shiva Sutra. You can straight away start working in your being. You do not even need some particular time. I cannot say 1 year course or 2 year course, nothing like that. It's just your intensity, so with intensity now here, without intensity nowhere, it is just the quality of your attention. It is just the quality which is needed, not the quantity.
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Speaker: “It says that the Vedas had come from God, and it has been passed along through generations, and there's no written record, similarly is that the same with the Shiva sutras or just haven't they recorded?” Swamiji speaks: “No, the Vedas are recorded, written down just a few years ago, same way in the Shiva sutras are written down a few hundred years ago. These are as also, it is part of Shruti. Just heard, heard, heard, and uttered, repeated.”
Why they are not written no, there is no, you cannot write them. So much of Slokas, it is very difficult to write them, that's why they are not written down. Speaker: “So I’m continuing my requestings, what is the authenticity of the original Mantra?” Swamiji: “Be respected so much, nobody is allowed to add, even one letter, not only letters, even the modulations cannot be altered. If you know the mantras, then you will know there's a thing called Swaras, even the Swaras can’t be changed. Because of the sanctity associated with the mantra, even the Swaras can’t be changed We preserve even including the Swaras including tune it was preserved.”
So according to my experience you see I have read enough of scriptures and enough of books, I can say thousands of books I’ve read. These Vedas are only scriptures, true to the original because of the sanctity associated to it, and the techniques to preserve. A separate group of people dedicated their life, just to preserve it, just to preserve this literature, a big group of people dedicated their life. So this is never happen in the humanity.
No book, you see, no book was preserved by a special group of people like Vedas. Just to preserve the Vedas, a big group took the responsibility, and nothing but just continuously, repeating, repeating, repeating, repeating, repeating and preserving. So you can be sure of the authenticity of words, and one more thing. See when the formula works you know it is true. Same way, this has worked in my life, so I can be sure, it is true and authentic because the technique worked, and it has given me the result. We can be sure, I can be sure at least. If you also try, you can be sure.
Speaker: “As people experience Higher Concsciousness, do you expect.” Swamiji speaks: “Can you use the mic so then everyone can hear.” Speaker: “As people experience higher consciousness will it be possible to expande language or new words that come forth from God possibly to share the experience or to help this to see a new language or more expansive expression.” Swamiji: “Yes, there are possible answers and these, there is disturbance, can you come forward?” Speaker: “Do you see new words, new language, new words come as we have more expanded Consciousness?
Oh, that's a nice question! She’s asking if with an expanded consciousness, do you see any new words or a new language or new words appearing. No, I am not able to see at least in my experience. I am not seeing any words, or any language. I just see only the ideas and when I translate ideas into the words. It gets translated into words, but otherwise it is just a pure inspiration or energy. Just a lump of energy, when I translate and try to verbalize it, then it gets translated into the words.
All Shiva Consciousness to the Divine energy to the existence of God, let him shower blessings on us and let us understand his ideas and reach the eternal bliss, Nithyananda, Thank you.
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- 30 March 2005
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