“Now I can speak anything because after all chaos!”
Now I can speak anything because after all chaos! Chaos is chaos. A wonderful subject; ‘chaos is order, order is chaos’.
The first word, when I speak about chaos is order, I speak about the macrocosm, the Brahmaanda or the universe. When I say the word, order is chaos, I mean microcosm, Pindaanda or the body in which you are living.
Order is chaos and chaos is order, we can say it in any way, because after all it is chaos. There is no need to express the chaos in a clear way. Chaos is chaos is chaos. Whatever the way you express, it is that.
Now, first let us try to understand the first statement; Chaos is Order. It is about the macrocosm or the cosmos, the ultimate expression of energy.
Today somebody presented me a beautiful book on Quantum Physics. Very clearly again and again, they emphasize whether it is the energy in the atom or the energy in the cosmos, it is totally chaotic. In that chaos, there is some order. Whether it is the whole universe or it is one atom, there is some big chaos. In that chaos there is some order which you cannot even imagine.
See, when chaos moves in an order, it creates something called consciousness or intelligence. Anything in chaos will be wild and energetic. Anything which has got order will be dull. In our life, we can see – anything in chaos, anything wild will radiate energy. We can see when the kids are let free or when they are wild, they radiate so much of energy. Why to go for kids, in our own lives, if we are allowed to break some rule; even if it is a small rule, we feel so much of joy and we radiate so much of energy.
If some order is broken, immediately we radiate so much of energy. The moment we are allowed to be in chaos, immediately we start radiating energy. Chaos is directly related to energy, the wilderness.
I request parents with kids to leave the hall! Because now we have enough of chaos. I told yesterday itself to not bring kids below seven to discourses, they do not need it as they are already happy, blissful. They do not need it, only you need it. Only you need to learn, they don’t need to learn anything.
Whenever we break some law or rules or some regulation, we feel so much of joy. Why do we think people feel so much of joy when they dance, because they do not have to be in order. And I tell you if you are dancing orderly, you will lose the joy of it. If you want to lose the joy of Bharathnatyam, learn bharathnatyam with all rules and regulations. The moment you learn any dance with rules and regulations you lose the joy of it. The moment rules are brought the joy is taken away.
That is why they say the real dance is just the expression of our being, not a form of some exercise. If we learn something and repeat it or do it, then we will be a professional dancer. Others may enjoy, but not ourselves. If we have to enjoy means it should be rules-less. It should be chaos.
When we are expressing the chaos, we will be radiating energy. That is why if we want to make somebody dull, we have to just put some rules, that is enough. Make some rules, the person will be dull. Really, I tell you, it is not that we need to make big big rules, just make simple rules, that is enough to make anybody dull!
The moment we know we are bound, we will be dull. The dullness will automatically enter in us even if it does not affect us directly physically. For example, if we are sitting in the hall and know that the hall is open and anytime you can leave, your energy will be totally different. You will be alive, fresh and joyful. Suddenly there is the information that the hall is locked and you cannot leave. You will be here, but will you be able to sit?
The same hall, the moment you get the idea that you cannot leave, you cannot be comfortable. Your total energy will change. Your whole mentality, your whole idea will change.
Any rule reduces the energy. Any regulation brings your energy down. Even in your house, if somebody says, ‘do not sit in a particular place’, always you will feel like sitting in that place. Till they make that rule, you will never even bother to sit there.
I tell you, if something has to be done regularly or if you want to do something regularly, just start preaching that it is wrong! If you want somebody to do something, if it is smoking or drinking, just do one thing. Start preaching it is wrong, it is bad and simply people will do.
And I tell you, I have seen in Bharat, the people who run the breweries (liquor industries), tobacco industries, all these guys they go and pour their money on these priests and the so-called moral preachers. I was surprised as to why they pour their wealth here and I asked one guy – ‘See, you make money only by selling liquor. If you spend on advertising, it is okay. But why do you give money to somebody who preaches against liquor or smoking?’ The guy said – ‘You do not know the human mind, Swamiji. The more you say it is wrong, the more they will do’. And in Bharat, legally you cannot advertise for liquors and the law prohibits us from advertising for liquors. So who else will remind people again and again about liquor and smoking! So we just fund the people who go around preaching against liquor and smoking. That is the best way to remind people about these great things.
And one thing, whenever you listen to something that it is wrong, unconsciously simply you get the idea – why not try. And it really works, I have seen so many times. Actually you feel you have become a being, a conscious being only when you say ‘No’ to others. Again and again, people bring their kids and complain to me about their kids – ‘Swamiji, he is not listening to me, she is not obeying me’. I tell them – ‘Kids feel they have become male or a female, that they have become mature, they have become adults only when they say No to parents. They feel that they have become adults only when they say ‘no’ to parents, anything, whatever it may be. They do not bother what you say what you say, all they want to say is ‘no’. Because they feel the moment they say ‘no’, they have become grown-ups, or they have become adults, or they have become somebody.
And the psychology continues to exist till you die. Even in your case, the moment you have a chance to say ‘no’, you feel you are energetic, you are alive. You feel the life only when you can say ‘no’. If you can and if you have the power, you will say ‘no’ to the whole world. Because every time when you say ‘no’, you feel you are great, you are something more than others. If you can, you always try to say only ‘no’, because that is the only word that is easy and comfortable.
A small story:
One person was considered as a fool in the whole village. The whole village thinks that he is a great fool and nobody respects him. Continuously they again and again they say – you are a fool, you are a fool…And once somebody listens to that again and again, naturally he will become a fool.
Anyhow, one enlightened master was passing by that village. This guy went to that master and asked him – ‘See, the whole village again and again says I am a fool, please help me, why don’t you do something so that I will become intelligent. Teach me some technique or mantra so that the whole village will accept me as an intelligent man’.
The master said – ‘Don’t do anything, just one small thing, a very small thing. From tomorrow onwards, start criticizing everything. If somebody comes and stands in front of you with the traditional clothes, start criticizing; “Eh, what are you wearing, still like old fool, nonsense”. If somebody comes in front of you with a modern dress, say; “what are you doing, disrespecting your tradition? What type of clothes are you wearing?”. If somebody comes and says; “what a nice moon!” say; “Eh, what is there, what do you know?”. If somebody comes and says; “O! there is nothing today is amaavasya, new moon day, no moon. Say; “what is there? Why do you want to see, what is there?”
You just start criticizing. Do not do anything, it is a simple thing. Anything anybody says, just criticize. Don’t bother about what they say, simply say ‘no’ and start criticizing. The guy said, ‘No, no, no I don’t have so much of courage, I cannot criticize like this, anybody and everybody.
Master said ‘Do you want to become intelligent or not?, do you want to become wise man or not?’. The guy said ‘yes, yes, I want to become a wise man, I want to become intelligent’ ‘Then do this one thing’, the Master said, ‘I will come back after a month and then talk to you again’.
This guy started, started simply criticizing everything, whatever comes in front of him, whomsoever comes in front of him. If somebody says ‘O! What a beautiful rose’. He starts criticizing ‘What do you know about it, what is there? After all tomorrow it will not be there, what is there in that beauty’. He started criticizing. If somebody says ‘what is this, this rose is not at all beautiful, tomorrow it will go away’. This guy starts speaking, what do you know, today why don’t you enjoy, why are you bothering about tomorrow. He started just criticizing anything said. He has got something against it. After one month, the same enlightened Master came back to that village and he was shocked because that the fool is now surrendered by so many disciples!
Now the fool is sitting under a big tree and so many disciples are sitting at his feet. When this enlightened master came, this guy started addressing him, ‘what is this, what type of cloth you are wearing, why are you wandering from every city to city? Why do not you stay in a village? Why do you walk here and there. For your age, you can keep quiet. The master was shocked seeing the power of confidence in him, the way in which his body language has turned. The way in which his expression has changed. So many disciples sitting in front of him with all the obedience.
And slowly the master called him out of the disciples. After all He can’t talk to him in front of his disciples. He asked him if he could spend some few minutes with Him alone. He asked, ‘what is there to speak with me alone, ask now itself anything you want’. The master said, ‘Do you remember the technique which I gave you last time’. The guy replied ‘Yes, what is there now?’. The master said ‘I understood now that you have become a wise man. Have you not become a wise man or not?’. The guy suddenly remembered the whole thing and he said, ‘Yes, the technique which you taught really works.
Actually this is the way of the world. Whenever you say ‘No’, you feel you are great. The ‘no’ makes you more solid. ‘Yes’ makes you very liquid. You have to assert. Whenever you break the rules, actually there is no such a thing which makes you happy, except breaking rules. All your happiness has got only one rule, that is; breaking the rules! And actually when you do it, you will not even feel happy.
When you smoke, just be conscious, you do not feel happy. You are just sending the smoke, forcing the smoke inside your system. Straightaway you don’t feel happy. Happiness is just by breaking the rule, just by becoming wild. It is not that the happiness is derived by physical activity, but by the mental satisfaction that you are wild, you are not bound. You are something more. Almost all your happiness if you scan consciously, you can understand, it comes only when you break the rules.
So the joy or bliss is always in wilderness. The energy is in chaos. The whole existence is chaos, but there is something more to it. It is not just chaos, there is an order in that chaos. If the universe is just chaos without any order, it will be towards destruction. All our chaos is just going towards destruction. You can see very clearly, anything which destroys yourself, you start thinking it is a great thing. You start enjoying or till it destroys you, you go to the extreme. Anything whatever you call as enjoyment, you don’t enjoy it until you go to the extreme. Only with extremism , you enjoy.
If it is just a chaos, it will only lead to destruction. Universe is not only chaos, there is an order. Apart from chaos, there is an order. Chaos in order is what I call ‘Cosmic Intelligence’. See, so many planets are moving. There is no traffic sign or there is no cop or there is no sign-board. Just they are all moving. And this Quantum physics book says beautifully, the planet Earth on which we are living, even if a single thing is missing, whether it is temperature or water, ice or fire or any one thing, we have thousands of things. Even if a single thing is missing, we will not be able to live on this planet earth. So this is not just an accident. The whole chaos has got some order. Science is still not able to prove that there is some order in that chaos because it goes beyond the intellect.
But the Upanishads or the mystics are very clear that there is some order in that chaos, which is what they call ‘Cosmic Intelligence ‘.
Yesterday, I was telling you that I met a Nobel Laureate, a Nobel prize winner, Dr. Tones. He was telling me, Swamiji, I feel the whole universe is something special, the whole universe is a spiritual being. It has got its own intelligence. Even though I am not able to specifically prove it with few more words, but I feel it is an intelligence and spiritual being. That is what I mean when I say, chaos is order. In that ultimate chaos, there is order. And please understand, the whole universe has got its own intelligence. It is not just power, it is energy.
There is a difference between the power and the energy. Power plus the intelligence is energy. The energy without intelligence is power. Power is just like a force. Cosmos is not just a force. It is force from intelligence or I can say; ‘Force plus intelligence’. It responds to your thoughts. It responds to your being. It responds to your prayers. It responds to your requests, because it is intelligence.
Somebody goes to Buddha and he asks ‘Who is the creator of the universe?’. Buddha says, ‘The universe itself is the creator’. There is no two persons. Creator and created, if there are two persons means the creator is only intelligent and created is not intelligent. It is a product, matter. And He says beautifully, the creation itself is the creator. The cosmos itself is the creator because it has got its own intelligence. It is a living energy. You are sitting inside a living energy.
And I tell you, that is what the Taittiriopanishad (one of the wonderful Upanishads) says, Aatmaat Aakaashaha. From the Atma comes the Aakasha. Aakashaat Vaayuhu; Vaayor Agnihi; Agnaer Aapaha; Aapahprithvihi; Prithivyor Annam. Let me translate this aphorism, this sutra. From the consciousness or the Aatman or God, whatever you call, from the ultimate consciousness came the ether. From the ether came the air. From the air came the fire. From the fire came the water. From the water came the earth. From the earth, came the food or the fuel for the living beings. This is the way the existence has happened.
And logically if you see, we are able to relate more with this than the evolution theory. Mystics always emphasize that we have come down! The biologists are speaking we have grown up. Mystics say we have come down from God. God is the origin. Scientists say, monkey is the origin, chimpanzee is the origin.
And see the throne, who is offered the throne. Who is sitting in the throne. Mystics are ptting the God on the throne, scientists are putting the monkey on the throne. And ofcourse the modern-day people who are able to think without any prejudice, they agree that we are not from monkeys. Surely we are not from monkeys, because the breakthrough looks too big. If we are from monkeys, then all monkeys should have become human-beings. It has not happened. Or the human-beings should have become super-humans by now! Because for too long we are just in the human level.
See, thousands of years ago, I can say even millions of years ago, we became human-beings. Now for millions of years, no change. We are just vegetating. All we did is we invented a few cars and a few bungalows, that is all. Why it is not happening? If it is an evolution, it should have been continued. So today, lots of people are questioning the evolution theory. And mystics again and again emphasize that we are from consciousness or God. Buddha says; the whole existence itself is living energy. It is living energy. It is intelligence. It has got its own intelligence. It is self-created. There is no created, creator and creation.
If these three things are there, naturally the creation does not have intelligence. Only the creator will have. Creator is the owner of intelligence. He handle the whole thing, but world does not seem. And I can be sure that a single man cannot sit and control the whole thing. Whatever the size of the laptop or the computer he has got, I don’t think he will be able to manage the whole thing.
It is not that creator is separate from creation. The creation itself is creator or the creator is creation. It is intelligence expressing itself.
And we can ask, yes it’s ok, but what are we going to do learning all those ideas. Now, let us come to the practical aspect. As long as you believe that what you see as universe is material, mechanical without any intelligence, you have nothing else to achieve in life. If you believe it is material, it is mechanical, it has no intelligence, then naturally ‘might is right’ is the ultimate law. There is no justice. There is no need for anything. Just all of us can fight wars and the person who owns will be the leader of the planet earth. That will become the ultimate law.
Believing the world is only a matter is the basic mistake or the basic wrong thing. That is the basic root for all terrorism and violence on the planet earth. That is going to create more and more confusion. As long as you believe the universe is just a matter, just a dead thing, be very clear, it is going to create only more and more power thirst. People are going to become more and more violent, terrorists. They are only going to more and more jump on others, because might is right.
Always the people who say they own, they are the owners, no justice, no clarity. Everyone will start living in their own way. Only when you realize the universe has got its own intelligence, it is a spiritual being; the seed for peace, the basic idea which supports peace is created or encouraged.
Only when you understand that your thoughts are responded, your way of life is rewarded, your prayers are answered, there is a living entity, there is a living intelligent force, there is a cosmic intelligent force and only when you understand that there is an order in that chaos, you can realize and work for peace, bliss, spirituality or whatever you call as a good thing on the planet earth.
You see, in the whole world, there are only two minds, two mental set-up. The people who work for peace, who work for bliss, who care for others, who try to spread love; the saatvik people, we can call the spiritual people in one mental set-up. The other one, the politicians; people who just want to own, own and own; people who just want to rule, rule and rule. The whole world you can categorize as two parts. Only these two, be very clear; there is no third category.
Either you want to own and rule, or you want to spread love and peace and bliss, only these two categories. There is no other category. You can see in your Being; search, you can understand. When you believe the world is just a chaos, world is just a matter without any intelligence; naturally you will become a terrorist, politician; a person who wants to own and who wants to rule everybody, who wants to control, who wants to possess, who wants to expand his kingdom.
The moment you realize, you experience that there is an order in the chaos, the cosmos is intelligent, the universe is a living being, it is a spiritual entity or a spiritual being and that it has got its own intelligence, it responds to your thoughts, it responds to your prayers, it responds to your mental set-up, only when you realize it, you start working towards spreading peace, bliss and joy.
There are thousands of ways; again and again and again, the cosmic intelligence is proving that it responds to your thoughts. There are hundreds of experiments done; not only the plants and the animals, even the stones, rivers, the fire; all these things respond to your thoughts. There are so many records that stones respond to your thoughts and water responds to your thoughts.
The other day, I was reading a beautiful book. The book is called ‘Messages from Water’, a wonderful book. In that book, the person has done a research. He took water in so many bottles and every bottle he writes a word. On one bottle, he writes; ‘Love and Peace’. On another bottle, he writes; ‘Terrorism and Violence’. On the third bottle, he writes the word; ‘Anger’. In another bottle, he writes; ‘God, Consciousness and Awareness’.
Something like this he creates so many bottles of water and he takes the bottle of ‘love and peace’, sits in front of it and chants the words ‘love and peace’ for sometime, creating that emotion. And then he crystallizes that water and looks at that water through a microscope and the result is something.
Next, he sits in front of the bottle ‘anger’ and creates that same emotion. Then he crystallizes that bottle’s water and looks at this water through the microscope.
And the third, he takes a bottle of water and chants the Quran, then he crystallizes that water and studies it. And you will be shocked to see the results. Not only did I read that book I saw the results. With my own eyes when I saw those pictures, I was shocked.
The ‘love and peace’ bottle’s water when was looked through the microscope, it was just like gems and diamonds. It looked so nice, shining and not only that, it had a very clear-cut view.
When it comes to the bottle of ‘anger and violence’, it looks almost like a ghost. Not a clear picture and it looks vague. Even if you see the picture, you feel disturbed.
When it comes to the word ‘Quran’, the complete picture of Mecca is appearing. How the Mecca temple is built, just like that, the plan of the Mecca temple is there on that water.
Ofcourse I was also not able to believe just like you all, but I went through completely. Not one or two, he has done thousands of researches; again and again it proves that the water responds to your thoughts. Water just responds to your thoughts.
You cannot imagine just a tumbler of water or a glass of water which is in front of you responds to your thoughts and you cannot believe this. And now it has become a solid truth. These researches are proving that it has become a reality. You can sit in front of a glass of water and speak, it responds to you! It responds to you, you are not speaking alone; you are speaking to a glass of water. And do not think a glass of water is a dead thing. It is not a dead thing, it can relate with you. It can respond to you.
That is why in Bharat, they always stand in the rivers and pray, because the whole river is getting energized. Actually, long ago I read a story ‘Reminiscence of British soldiers’. I was not able to understand that story. Only when I read this research I was able to understand. Let me tell that story, you will be able to relate.
Whenever they come from England to Bharat, they bring water from England when they come by ship. Maybe it takes a month or two. When they come, they will bring water from England. That will always get spoilt. They say, they write that it will always get spoilt. After ten or fifteen days, they cannot drink water. They will have to go for some other thing. they will have to find something else. But whenever they go from Bharat, the water which they take from Bharat, it never gets spoilt. It will always be there till they reach England. Not only till they reach England, even after that, it will be there.
And they were not able to find out why. Then they understood that they are taking the Ganga water, because they always go from Calcutta. Calcutta water supply is from the Ganga river. Form that Ganga river only, they are carrying the water. Then they understood that the water of Ganga is not only holy by faith or belief, it has got a power to clean itself. Automatically it cleanses itself. It rejuvenates itself. It kills all the bacteria and rejuvenates itself.
They did a research on Ganga water and they come out with a report that it cleanses itself automatically. How can this happen? Now after reading this research I understand. If one person sitting in front of a glass of water and chants for ten minutes some good words can change the energy of the water; millions of people standing 24 hours in that river and chanting the holy mantras, and the prayers offering their devotion, what will happen to that river? The whole river has become living energy.
That is why in Bharat, they do not call the Ganga as just a river, they call Ganga Maatha (Mother Ganga). They worship that river just like a living being. When I read that research in the book ‘Messages from Water’, I was shocked. I was able to correlate with what would ave happened to that river Ganga.
Everything in the universe responds to your thoughts. When you understand that, instead of trying to own or expand your boundaries and borders, you will try to expand your consciousness. If you feel the whole world is chaos, then naturally you will think ‘What is there? When everything is chaos; how much I can, let me catch and live’. All you will get is you will be just inspired to live with the idea ‘might is right’.
Only when you understand; ‘No, there is an order in the chaos, it is intelligent’, only then you will start working and start moving I the direction of peace and bliss. When you realize the whole universe is ‘intelligence’, the moment you even start believing or trusting that the universe is intelligence, that it has got its own intelligence, you can simply relax trusting it.
The surrender can simply happen to you the moment you realize the truth that cosmos is intelligent, the universe is intelligent. As long as you do not realize that universe is intelligent, you will always try to hold on to your seat. You will always try for your seat. Not only in politics level, even if you go to the spiritual Masters. I have not seen any other institution suffering so much with politics like the spiritual institutions.
I tell you, all spiritual institutions, the so-called spiritual institutions are filled with so much of politics. These so-called spiritual people are the real atheists!, I tell you. If you want to see an atheist, go to Bharatn temples and see the people who do the worship, you can see. Everyday they touch the idols, the Gods’ and Goddesses’ statues, so slowly by and by they take it for granted and they lose the idea that it is Divine.
And a person who goes once in a while, he feels so much of ecstasy and devotion in front of that God. And the people who stay there forget it is God. They always think it is only stone.
And I tell you the so-called religious people or the so-called spiritual people, only in their institutions, you can see the peak of politics, because they do not have a clear trust that universe is intelligence, the existence is intelligence. It responds to your quality. It responds to your state of being. When you do not understand that, you try to do politics. You think you can catch hold of some seat by your cunning games.
I tell you, it is the state which has to bring status. It is the state of your mind which is supposed to precede the status of your life. If just the status is achieved when the status is not achieved
Two things understand; the state and the status. State of the mind, means the maturity; the status of your life, means the external comforts. If the status is achieved without achieving the state of the mind, you will always have a problem. I have seen so many poor guys living in big bungalows, they will have status, they will have wealth; but they will not be rich.
Richness is something more than wealth. When you have the state and the status both, only then you are rich. If you trust the existence is intelligence, there is an order in the chaos, you will work to achieve the state of the mind; then automatically status will follow. I assure you; if you achieve the state of the mind, if you are worthy, simply things follow you. We always blame the God.
We always say; ‘I think for my qualification, I think I should have achieved a lot more Swamiji, but God was partial, He didn’t give me enough chance’. If we ask everybody, his will be the introduction of their biography. ‘For my capacity, I should have achieved a lot more Swamiji; I should have been somewhere else. I am sitting here because God did not give many chances to me and God was partial’.
And actually for us, God is a dust-bin. Anything achieved, we take the credit. Anything which did not happen or not achieved, the blame goes to God. You try to find somebody to put the blame. When you cannot find anybody, you put the blame on Him because nobody sees Him and after all He will not go to court. You know for sure He will not go to defamation case! So you can always blame Him and be comfortable. So you just say, ‘He did not give me enough chance’.
We do not understand that universe is intelligence. How much you can handle, that much only is granted. Many people come to me and they ask me, ‘Swamiji, please bless me to have more wealth’. Not only that, they also tell me, ‘please recommend in your meditation class to God to grant my boons’. Recommendation through me. ‘Please tell Swamiji because you are the begotten Son of God. You are close to Him, you have heart-line. When you discuss with Him all the matters, please put a word about me also and tell Him to do something’.
I always tell people, ‘He is so compassionate’. You see, if you feel that He has fulfilled your boons, He is great. If you feel that He has not answered your prayers, He is much more great, understand!
He is not answering your prayers just because of compassion. I always tell people, ‘If He answers all your prayers, long before you would have killed yourself, you would have destroyed yourself, because we ask all possible nonsensical things’. We ask things without even knowing what all the side-effects that are going to happen because of them, because of those things.
It is like in the early morning, when we try to feed the kids. Some kid saw the sun rising and it started shouting, ‘Mom, I want that, get me that fruit’, only then he would eat. He saw the sun rising and he thought it is some fruit and he started demanding for that fruit. ‘Can you bring that sun and give him?’ No, first of all you cannot and even if you try, you will be burnt. You cannot even go near, you will be burnt.
Same way only you continuously ask things without even knowing the after-effect or side-effect.
Today morning one devotee was telling me, ‘Swamiji, I chant this sutra, this shloka, it gives me the Ishtapraaptiyan (it gives me whatever I want)’. And I tell you God blesses you by not giving whatever you want. He is so compassionate, that is why He never answers your prayers. Sometimes, He answers and sometimes He never answers. Majority of the times He never answers, because He is compassionate. Many times, we do not even know what you are asking.
And out of His compassion, He never answers, He never replies, He never grants. So be very clear, we being given our status is directly related to the state of our mind. I have seen so many people dying because of wealth. I tell you, if you have not achieved what you want to achieve, be very clear God is compassionate. Because the moment you achieve what you want to achieve, you will understand what FOR you wanted to achieve has not happened.
Understand this simple thing, a very deep secret. If you achieve what you want to achieve, you will end up in depression of success. Atleast till you achieve, you will have a hope. You can pull your life with that hope. The moment you achieve what you want to achieve, you enter into a phase what is called as depression of success. Many people when they are not able to handle the depression of success, they commit suicide. Around the age of forty to forty-five, almost everybody faces this phase of depression of success.
Why do you think all successful countries are facing so much of depression. When you are successful, when you achieve the status without the state of mind, you enter into depression. Depression is the result. You cannot handle the wealth which you are having. You cannot handle the power which you are having. Without working for buddhi, when you work for shakti you end up in depression. Please be very clear, two things: shakti and buddhi. Shakti means the power and buddhi means the intelligence. Shakti is status, buddhi is the state of mind.
Without working for the state of mind, if you achieve the status, be very clear that you are on the path of suicide. It is suicidal. If the child gets a knife, what will happen? It will kill others and hurt himself. Same way, without achieving the state of mind, if you achieve the status, be very clear that it is suicidal. Only when you trust that there is an order in the chaos, the existence is intelligent, there is a spiritual being, what you call as God or Holy Ghost or Brahman or Shiva, Vishnu; whatever name we may give, only when you experience that there is a spiritual being, there is an intelligence running this universe, only then we will work for the state of mind.
I have always seen the people who have achieved the status without achieving the state, they start hurting others and hurting themselves. All the violence on the planet Earth is just because we achieve the status without achieving the state. You can achieve the state only when you believe, when you trust, when you understand that cosmos is intelligence, there is an order in the chaos. If you just understand everything is chaos, we will become cunning politicians or we will start expanding your boundaries. Only when you understand that there is an order in the chaos, you will stat turning inside.
Next statement, wonderful statement: ‘Order is Chaos’. The first statement is ‘chaos is order’, the next statement is ‘order is chaos’.
There is a beautiful Zen story: a disciple goes to Master and asks; ‘Master, please explain to me how you started, how you traveled, how you attained the ultimate experience’. The Master says; ‘When I started, mountain is a mountain, river is a river and tree is a tree. When I was traveling; mountain is not a mountain, river is not a river and tree is not a tree. Again when I attained; mountain is a mountain, river is a river and tree is a tree’.
Very difficult to grasp, but with little bit of intelligence you can understand. After achieving, you became very ordinary; before achieving, even though you think you are extraordinary, you are ordinary. After achieving, even though you are extraordinary, you understand you are ordinary. Before achieving even though you are ordinary, you think you are extraordinary. After achieving, even though you are extraordinary, you just feel you are ordinary.
After achieving, you just see things in an ordinary way, in a very simple way, in a normal way, without any complexity. But in between the gap, you undergo a transit period. Same way, once you achieve the experience of what I call the ‘cosmic intelligence’ or ‘the intelligence of the universe’; onceyou experience that the universal force is not just a force, it is intelligence also, that it has intelligence also.
River is not a totality of drops of water; it is something more than drops of water. That is what I call; understanding it has intelligence. And you should understand one more thing; Nile river is the river worshipped by Egyptians. They have recorded the water-level of that river everyday for the last four thousand years. Nile nadi is the only river which has a history of four thousand years. Everyday the water-level is recorded, because they worship that river. And if you read that four thousand years of history of that river, you will shocked to know that every earthquake is informed, every flood is informed, every major fire accident is informed, every famine is informed by that river to the people.
Because they know the language of relating with that river. They know for this water-level; if the water is too restless, means something wrong. The river is giving some message to us! For this water-level if the water is calm, then there is something wrong. It is giving some message. For this water-level, it has to be this much restless and turbulent. For this water-level, it has to be this much calm and peaceful. They know how to relate with the river. And they related with the river, you will be surprised. If you get a chance, try to read some books on Nile river.
You will be shocked; every single earthquake on the planet earth in any part of the world, every single natural calamity is informed by the river to the people who worship the river. When you understand it is intelligence; cosmos is intelligence; universe is not just the totality of these five elements, it is something more than that. It consciously decides; it consciously responds to your thoughts, to your deeds, to your prayers, to your mind, ultimately to your Being.
Only when you experience it, then you understand a new dimension of your Being. What you call as ‘order’; your body, mind and Being; there is a wonderful chaos in it, the energy or the wilderness in it. When you experience that there is an order in that chaos, the cosmos, macrocosm (brahmaanda); you realize there is a chaos in the order, in the microcosm, our body (pindaanda). When you realize there is an order in the chaos of the macrocosm; you realize there is a chaos in the order of the microcosm.
You experience there is an ultimate chaotic energy inside your Being. You are not just a simple body. You are not just a microcosm. You are a macrocosm in miniature form. You are the miniature of macrocosm. You realize you are the ultimate, endless ocean of potential energy in you just like the universe. When you experience there is order in the chaos, you experience there is a chaos in your order. You experience you are something beyond. You are something more than what you think.
As on now, you think you know everything about yourself. That is why you think you are very orderly. If you have just combed your hair, brushed your teeth and washed your clothes, taken bath; you feel you are very orderly, you are in order. You think everything of you is under your control, you are integrated, you are okay, you are just in order, you know your boundary. Always we feel we know our boundary, we know our limits, we know what we can do and what we cannot do, who we are and we are very orderly!
There are a lot of perfectionists. I call the perfectionists as neurotic people. Perfectionism is the straightway to madness. If you do not like somebody, if you have some enemies; just give them some books about perfectionism and inspire them indirectly to become perfectionists. That is enough to put them into hell! See, nothing else is necessary. With the concept of perfectionism, wherever you go, you will carry your hell. A person who is a perfectionist cannot be happy anywhere. Wherever he goes, he will find some fault. There will be some problem, even if he is here, he will start, ‘why Swami has not combed His hair, why one side it is in back-side and the other side is front, and His clothes are like that.’ I should tell him when I go near him, and why His cloth is like this, one side is low and one side it is high’. He will come up with something. I should tell him when I go near him,
And if you want to put somebody into hell, somehow with a little difficulty teach some perfectionism, that is enough. You think you are perfect, because you think you know your boundary, you are in order. When you experience the cosmic intelligence, the order in the chaos you will realize that there is something more than what you think as yourself. You will realize the chaos in the so-called your order.
The more mind you have, the more you will be perfectionists, please be very clear. The more the ego, the more you will be orderly. I tell you, now I understand why they use, in English, for orderly and order; for both they use the same word, because both are related to ego. If you are egoistic, you will be continuously passing orders and you will be orderly. Both have got the same route. That is why for both they use the same word. You will be very orderly and be continuously passing orders.
And it is very difficult to live with these professors! If your wife or husband is a professor or a teacher, be sure you will not go to hell after death, because nothing else will be left. Even if you go, you will feel very homely. Because they will continuously try to teach; I do not know about America, about Bharat I know; they won’t try to come out of the teachership when they come home also. In the house also, they will continuously go around with their long stick. Very difficult to live with them, especially if your wife is a teacher, and especially philosophy professors; ordinary is okay; philosophy professors.
And ofcourse, in Bharat I am telling, I do not know about the western structure. In Bharat, the students are treated like slaves. I am telling the truth. Ofcourse, you see, I have all my respects for Bharat, I praise whatever good things they have done. In the ancient education system, it is not like that. See, in the ancient education system, the Rishi system, the old system; they start with a mantra: ‘Let both of us help each other’
Om Sahanaabhavatu Sahanoubhunnattu Sahaveeryam Karavaavahai Tejasvinaavadheetamastu Ma Vidvishaavahai Om shanti shanti shantihi
Let me translate this aphorism. The Master says to the disciples and to the existence or to the God, ‘Let both of us help each other, let both of us help each other to grow and complete this education and let both of us not have any anger towards each other till we complete this education. O God, please help us to maintain and grow together.
See the mantra, you will be shocked and there is a beautiful explanation. You may ask, ‘how can a Master grow?, how can a teacher grow by disciples?’ Disciples grow by the teacher, that you can understand, but how can Masters grow by disciples. There is a beautiful explanation: only when you give birth to a child, you become mother. Till you give birth to a child, you are only a woman, you are not a mother. When you give birth to a child, only then you become a mother. It is not that only the child takes birth, mother also takes birth. Till that time, you are not a mother, you are only a woman. Only when you give birth you are a mother. So not only a child, mother also takes birth.
Same way, when you teach, not only the disciple understands, Master also understands the new dimensions of teaching. And I tell you honestly, I grow whenever I teach. Again and again I teach not for the sake of the students as I know how much they will understand. For my sake, I teach. I can be sure that everyone of you contribute to my growth if you feel I contribute for your growth. How much I contribute for your growth, the same way you contribute for my growth. It is always mutual, never one-sided. Any thing has to be mutual. I tell you honestly I grow. It is a straight truth. Even if I am egoistic, even if I do not agree, I grow. I agree, that is different.
There are some teachers, so-called masters who do not agree, but I tell you, whenever they teach you, they grow; you are guinea-pigs. And I tell you very clearly, every time when I express, I grow.
The old education system is totally different, but in this modern education system, they cannot come out of that teacher mould, professor mould. Being a teacher itself is enough to spoil somebody and being a philosophy teacher, that is all!, you cannot live. The orderliness and the order…you see, you maintain order because you think you know all your boundaries. You keep your house so orderly, why? Because you know the boundary.
If you have thousands of acres, what can you do? You cannot do anything, you cannot keep things in an orderly way. Now you think you are in an order, because you think your boundary is very small. The moment you experience the cosmic consciousness, the order in the chaos, you will realize the chaos inside your order. you will realize the Atman or the energy, consciousness inside your body. Then you will never bother about how to keep yourself in order, and simply it will happen.
You will not work for discipline; discipline will happen. Only when you realize the order in the chaos, you will realize the chaos in the order. Only when you realize the chaos in the order, you will realize the order in the chaos.
Let me put it in the other way: only when you realize the cosmic consciousness in your body, macrocosm in your microcosm, then you will really become orderly. You will really learn how to be orderly without reducing your energy. As long as you try to become orderly, you will only suppress your energy. All our disciplines are only suppression. That is why, the people who are egoistic; people who control or suppress themselves, they do not satisfy just by controlling themselves. They go around suppressing everybody.
You can see, if you are suppressing yourself, you will not stop with that. You will suppress everybody whomsoever comes inside your boundary. If somebody is happy, you cannot tolerate. If you are unhappy, if you are suppressive, you cannot tolerate somebody’s happiness. It is too much. That is why we cannot bear the kids’ joy. When kids enjoy, laugh and jump around, whirl; you say, ‘shut up, keep quiet, sit in a corner.’ ‘Why do you think you say that?’ you cannot bear, you are too jealous. I tell you the truth; unconsciously we are jealous. Once they become dull and dead just like us, then we are very happy. Then we understand, ‘O, now we have our heir, our person!’
Anything when you are suppressive, you suppress others also. If you are orderly without realizing the chaos in your Being, not only you will be suppressive, you will be suppressing everyone. So, realize the order in the chaos, the macrocosm; you will become a spiritual being. Realize the chaos inside the order, you will start expressing the compassion. When you realize the chaos inside your order, you will accept yourself and others as they are. Till then, you can neither accept others nor accept yourself. You will be continuously condemning others with anger, condemning yourself with guilt.
Guilt and anger are just because you are not realizing the chaos in your order. Whatever you think as order, your boundary; it has got chaos in it. Your Being, the ultimate Being is a deep chaos; energy, pure energy! When you realize that, you accept yourself as you are, and you will accept others as they are.
First, when you realize the order in the chaos, you will become a spiritual being. When you realize the chaos in the order, you will become a compassionate being, you will start expressing. So, the bliss and the compassion will happen to you. First the bliss has to happen, only then the compassion will happen. First it has to happen in you, only then you will express it.
If the love happens to you, in your Being, it will be bliss. If it starts expressing through you, it will become compassion. The experience part of love is bliss; expression part of love is compassion. When you realize the order in the chaos, you will experience the experience part of love, bliss. If you realize the chaos in the order, you will express the expression part of love, compassion.
So, bliss and compassion will simply happen to you, when you understand the order in the chaos, and realize the chaos in the order.
So, may you all realize this ultimate truth; I pray to that ultimate intelligence, divine consciousness, cosmic intelligence; the energy, the intelligent energy, which moves this whole universe to give this cosmic awareness and cosmic consciousness to all of us and make us realize the chaos in the order and the order in the chaos. And may us all experience the compassion and bliss; and reach the ultimate eternal bliss; Nithyaananda!
Thank you.
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- 24 March 2005
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