“Participant: I have one question Swamiji.”
Participant: I have one question Swamiji. For example we put so many gods in our house, gods and goddesses, so how about that angle
SPH: Ah, You see, when you have real respect that they are gods and goddesses, when you have the real feeling, your mind acts like a bridge to bring the Mahakasha. See the faith and the trust, trust acts like a drill bit which can bring the Mahakasha into the Katakasha. The faith and the trust, you see the faith and the trust makes you beyond this body, makes you go beyond this body, makes you the feeling of expanded, expandedness so that Murthis become alive.
Faith and trust makes the Murthis alive. If you don't have the faith and trust they are no more than a small piece of paper. Otherwise they are no more than a small piece of paper. And some of us got the faith... what type of faith you know if you pass in the exam, everything goes well. If one exam fail immediately Ganapati only will go to the road 😃 Immediately the Ganesha photo will go to the, that type of faith will not do. If you have a real feeling that gods and god, the photographs and the statues are alive, they are the embodiment of energy, they are representative of lord, then you will see, really that helps and cleanses the whole space. That surely helps and cleanses the whole space. Mmh. Because the faith and the trust has got the unique power to expand your Chidakasha. Mmh. See just that aah, faith of the Ramakrishna gave life to Kali, Dakshinamurth, Dakshineshwar Kali. Any of you had been to the Dakshineshwar Kali? Calcutta.
There’s a beautiful temple you should go and, you should go and see. You know, I, I tell you the fact, a real fact. In ahh Calcutta they put, they use the ahhh conch bangles, bangles made out of conch. Any of you are wearing?
Participants: Glass bangles
SPH: No, no, no, not glass, conch, conch shell.
Participant: “Shankh, shankh, shankh”
SPH: Shankha. You see, like this type of shankhas they cut in the crosswise and from that they make a bangles. It’ll be one piece. It’ll be one piece. It’ll not be, it cannot be broken. It’ll be one piece. Once it is broken, broken, you cannot use it... one piece. The ahhh conch shell bangles, women, they use. Somebody brought 4 bangles to be offered into the Kali, Kali’s hand, that ahhh Devi’s hand. That Devi is having one Abhaya Abhaya hastha, one Varada hastha. In another one hand the sword and one ah that Asura’s head, the cut head.
You see in this 3 hand it is easy to insert that bangle because the hands are free, empty. This hand you can remove the sword and put the bangle. This hand is having the big skull. It is, it is not possible to put the bangle inside. So the priest came and told ahhh Ramakrishna. “You see this ahh fourth hand we are not able to insert the bangle, we will put it at Her feet.” Ramakrishna came: “Why? Why? What is there?” He came directly and ahhh he went inside the ah Puja room, Garbha Mandir. When he came out the bangle was on the hand of the Kali. The Pujari asked, “Did you break it and paste it?” Ramakrishna says: “What is the need? I went and told her, “Please let the head down for few minutes. I wanted to insert the bangle.” She let the head down. I inserted it. I told her to hold it again. She is holding again. Over.” !!! You see, still now you can go and see. Ahh in North Bharat they allow you to go and touch the Deity. In Kashi you can touch Vishvananatha directly. In North Bharat you are allowed. You can actually see the conch bangle without any broken ah thing. It is there in the hand. That hand is also not broken. That hand is not broken. The head is not broken. The conch shell is there. The bangle is there. Still now you can see.
He said, “What is it there? I went and told her: “Let the ahhh ‘open your hand’. She opened it, I inserted the bangle. I told her again ‘hold the head’. She started holding. Over.” Very simple. When you feel in that, in that way that they are alive, then they become real forms, they become real energy centers. Energy ahh the way to communicate or what I can say that ahh they are bridge, they have become bridge to the universe. And he says ahh “When it is too cold I’ll put that ahh shawl for her and feel ahh her breath her breathing whether it is hot or cold.” He says that “I will keep that small thread near ahh her nose and see whether the breath is hot or cold.” He lived with her, just lived. No question of faith or the trust, nothing; just lived. It’s verily possible. Still now you don’t know. Still now the mystery is... you see, there is no ahhh way to cut or paste and there is no mark. The conch shell, conch shell is, there is no mark, it is there and there is no mark that statue is broken, no. Things are there but ahhh bangle is there. If you have the chance to go to Calcutta, you must go and see at least that bangle and the hand. Then you can understand: Vigrahas are not Vigrahas.
In Vaishnavism there is a concept, they call it Archavatara. You see, you know the ten Avataras; these are the 10 avataras. There is a 11th avatara, archavatara, if you worship with a lot ahh real faith, lord takes the avatara of that Murthi. Whatever Murthi, whatever Murthi you worship, whether Shiva, Krishna, Rama, that's different. That Murthi, lord takes the avatara of that Murthi. It is called archavatara. Of course no logic can explain. How will you explain the conch shell entering into the hand? You cannot explain. No way. No explanation. There is a one more thing in the Madurai, Madurai Temple. In all the temple Nataraja will be lifting only the left leg and dancing. In Madurai temple you can see the right leg, right leg dancing. It is not that statue is made that way because there are early records the statue is made only with the left hand; the records are there. But suddenly overnight the leg has changed. There’s a story behind the ahh that incident. One day the ahh king of that uh place is a very devoted to the Shiva. He came and ahhh, he was giving his prayers. He was telling: “Oh Lord, only few days ago I started learning the Baratha. I know how difficult this posture is in which you are standing. For two three minutes itself it was so difficult for me. How are you standing like this in the same posture for so many years? Why don’t you at least change your legs? 😃 Why don’t you change your legs at least for our sake? Will you, don’t you feel pain?” Then immediately the response, it says that Lord has started dancing with the other leg. Of course no logic can explain. Where's the logic? And at least this incident happened long before but the Ramakrishna incident not even not 30, 40 years, some little more than that, but just in the last century so many things happened; because the trust has got the tremendous capacity to create a bridge between you and the existence, you and the universe. And never think something is a dead matter. Everything is alive energy. Everything is alive energy.
Participant: “Swami, Vastu has become such a commercial, irrational thing? You know a geometrical..., is there any, I mean it is, seems like it is more... ”
SPH: The problem is you see, anything when original things comes up, the original things became popular because of duplicate things only. No duplicate things only make original things popular, more popular. So naturally the rules and the people to confuse will arise. Only thing it is up to us to decide. I can give you one tips, the basic rules regarding Nairuti and Ishanya. If that two is followed that is enough. Nothing else is necessary. Nairuti means the western and ahh west, south-west, south-west and the Ishanya means north-east. These 2 corners if it is followed that is enough. That is enough. That takes care of the whole energy because that 2 only is the mainly energy areas. And you can do a, try a small example, a small experiment.
Make pickle. The same, I think some uh particular quantity you make, that same pickle, you make it as a 3 share. Put it in 3 different jars. Keep one jar in the north-east. Keep another one in the south-east, the Agni, 3rd one in the Nairuti, ahh Nairuti the south-west. What is kept in the Ishanya will be spoiled in one week. What is kept in the Agni will stay for 2 weeks. What is kept in the Nairuti will stay for 3, 4 weeks. In the same room temperature you can keep. In the same room you keep it. You can see directly. In one room keep it in this 3 corners. You will see that this happen. Of course there is something in these energy things.
Participant: “Swamiji if you have bhajans on all the time in your house, all the time in everybody… does that helps for good vibrations
SPH: Ah yes, you see, surely, surely. You see Bhajans, Bhajans means you re...the very word it’s an energy. The major problem is we don't understand the word emotion. That's why I don't speak much on this bhakti and this prayer; because prayer cannot happen unless you understand, you have the glimpse of meditation. Unless you have the glimpse of energy or ecstasy you cannot have prayer. Still then whatever you do is nothing but putting applications. It is nothing to do with prayer; it's putting applications. All applications, if it is not with the proper rubber stamp, proper stamp, it goes to dustbin. The stamp is meditation. When it is, when you have not experienced something on your own, in your own field, in your own ahh being, all your prayers are nothing but the applications and few words.
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- 23 January 2004
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