“For example when you come and ask, 'I should win a lottery one crore!',…”
For example when you come and ask, 'I should win a lottery one crore!', you are very clear, you will come next time and tell me that it has not happened. So with that mental setup if he comes, what he really is asking? ‘What I am asking should not happen!’ So I say ‘Tathasthu !’ 'Let it be!’, and it will not happen! Understand sometimes you use; these are all very subtle points. This is one of the important catching point. Many fellows they use their seeking to constantly prove to themself the system is wrong! Audience: ‘By system is wrong, what does it mean?’ Means, ‘I did what Swamiji said, it did not work out! I did what scriptures say, it did not work out!’ So we start using our passion for that ! Audience: ‘What does it mean?’ So naturally, It means the passion is not complete! Use, understand use your passion to align your actions, towards the passion and you will just see the things are happening. If it is not happening, question your passion! Not anything else! That is why I say patience! The mind set questioning all other things needs patience. The mind set which is aligning your actions need passion. You have two mind sets. Usually we always do the opposite. We use the passion to question everything else; use patience to align your action into the passion. All of you understand what I am saying. Exactly the point. I think I got that thread! Do you understand what I am saying? I think this point even in the discourse I didn't express! Usually whenever people come and ask me, 'I am really passionate, but the thing is not happening!’, means they are using their passion to question the system, not to align their actions. Which is supposed to be the opposite! Use the passion to align your actions, towards that passion. And the mind which constantly questions the system, have patience for that part. You have two part. So one part needs patience, which is constantly questioning everything else. One part needs passion which is aligning all your actions and the whole process towards the system. And we do usually opposite. Chalo, come on. Audience: ‘Your Satsangh on Vitark, Kutarka, Vitarka and Tarka..’ TARKA, KUTARKA, VITARKA ! Audience '.. that helped quite a bit, because I could find that ..' Let me tell you, actually when a man has a Vitarka, I see very clearly between me and him like a tunnel of energy! When he comes near me, I know that like a tunnel of energy will be there between him and me. Like a bridge ! So when I give, 'Let it happen in you!', like a, just like a ball! the energy flows into him! Whenever a person with Vitarka comes around me, it was such a joy to be around that person! It was just joy to be around the person!
See in my whole drama, in my whole lila, you all enjoy my Shakti! I enjoy your Bhakti! That is the whole lila! And that is the way the whole lila happens. Whenever the person with... See Vitarka means having the breadth, broad logic which accomodates and ready to accept even the things which are not taught to you in the school. You understand? That is the clear definition. The school is not the place of perfect education. Do not think you know about some subject if you have a post doctrate degree. There is something.. Audience: 'School is actually not a place of education I would say.' So, that is the definition of Vitarka. School and the society is not the place to give you the complete education. The Vitarka is like opening a new channel. Understand, it is like a, you have a TV, you have only seven channel, and if suddenly some new connection is given, and you have hundred channel. Vitarka is like that. When I say, the Devataas, the celestial beings are here, I am not lying. You understand? Just I am seeing, they are all here. With the same excitement which you guys are all having. ‘When what will happen, who is going to achieve what!’ They are also just hanging around! No, really ! But what to do? Guys with the Vitarka can straight away catch. 'Yes! He is right!' When she said, 'Its like Kailash!' It is not like she is praising! Please be very clear, innocent faith is not right thing. Intelligent faith! Innocent faith, please be very clear! Ignorance cannot be forgiven just because you give the title innocence, to it. Many time, our ignorance, we label it. If somebody else is innocent, he is ignorant. If we are ignorant, it is innocence. Audience: 'But faith should be blind or? Uh? Audience: 'The faith is always blind isn't it?' Faith is INTELLIGENCE! Gopis had such a STRONG faith on Krishna, because of their intelligence! Their Vitarka! So faith based on Tarka is not complete! It can be broken at any time. If it can be broken it is faith based on Tarka, not Vitarka. And Kutarka faith never grows. And faith based on Tarka only can be broken. It must be ignorant faith. Not innocent faith. Ignorant faith is always dangerous not only for you, for me also. I don't accept that ignorant faith guys around me. All the people whom I pick up and keep around me, they are intelligent faith. Audience: ‘From one of your discoure you mentioned that if you have a doubt surrender it to me, if you have faith surrender it to me.’ Then the Vitarka faith will happen. Audience: 'Thank You, Swamiji!' You internalize that and start putting questions, many of the pins can be removed. Many pins can be removed, just with that one Vitarka. I can say that was one of the important breakthrough message from me. Nowhere you will find that definition. Understand, when Narada curses, it happens! when Brahma gives boon, it happens! In our tradition we read thousands of stories, even a chaste wife, when she gives a boon it happens! When she curses it happens! Savitri! she can just stop sun! Ordinary girl ! 'She says, 'Ay, don't raise !' It is not raising! How come, why all those things are not lifestyle now ? Today morning, somebody was asking, when the Vedic lifestyle was taken away from the masses. Today I was answering the question. When the Vitarka was disconnected. That was the time when the Vedic lifestyle is not part of mass. Even when you guys go and tell outside. There is a small boy, we are sitting, thirty two year old and we were sitting at his feet for three months. They will laugh at you! Because many of you guys are ten times more educated than me and surely, many are, if you are elders, not only elders, many of you are my grandfather's age and almost ninety percent of you are my father's age and if you guys go out and tell, three months you were sitting at his feet and this fellow whatever he was telling, you guys were doing. What's going on? So the Vitarka channel opened. So the Vedic tradition was taken away from mass, when Vitarka channel was closed. When that Vitarka transmission was broken, it was very systematically broken, few thousand years ago. Understand when we started thinking, I think Ramayana is not exactly as it happened. I think Mahabharata is only a mythological story, Vitarka was lost. Please be very clear, everything, Ramayana, Mahabharata, Bhagavatha, literally true! There was a war with atomic weapon. Now understand, now all the scientific, atomic weapon, flight, everything is based on light waves. Everything is electricity. Light waves. The Vedic tradition was using all these things, same way based on sound waves - MANTRA ! The whole Cosmos is sound waves and light waves. The science is light wave based. They were able to reproduce it without the help of the mind. The Light wave based things does not need the cooperation of the mind. But the sound wave based things need the cooperation of your mind. So, that is why this was lost. Otherwise we had flight, atomic weapons, train, whatever you call as the gift of the science we had! But the whole thing was based on the sound wave technology. That was based on.. Now the whole thing whatever science is, is all based on light wave technology; means electronics. Electrical electronics. The whole thing is light wave based technology. You are able to relate with what I am saying? This whole thing is sound wave based technology. That is why, see this sound wave based technology, needs the person's mind also to be in tune. See, when Ravana had the Pushpaka Vimana, it was the sound wave based technology. He sits and utters few words and it lifts; creates some sound and it flies. Now, if a pilot sits and sends electronic signals, the electrical energy, the light wave energy to some parts, it picks up and it flies. Same way when Ravana sits, maybe he has to put his hand on some part and create the sound wave, ‘Om Shanno mitra shamvarunaha Shannobhavat varayama. ShannoindroBruhaspatihi!' Flight will pick up ! That waves reaches through the system and it picks up and he maintains some sound. 'Hreem, Hreem, Hreem , Hreem’ that wave, it moves! The whole thing was sound wave based technology. For this to be constantly reproduced, and to operate that knowledge needs the cooperation of the mind. So these guys took care very clearly. The next generation mind does not cooperate with the technology. So the whole infrastructure is waste! The whole infrastructure is waste! That is what happened exactly. Now suddenly if the science of sending electrical signals, the light wave into the flight if it is lost, The whole infrastructure, all the airports all over the world; all the aircrafts built is waste. And you say, 'No, no, no, no, no. People are telling lies. There was a time when the aircraft was flying.' Suddenly they say, 'No, no, no, no, no. There was never a time when the aircrafts were flying. That is what now, these guys are telling. There was never a time when Pushpaka Vimana was flying. It was! It was! I know experientially. I know experientially. See the Brahmastra, which Arjuna had, sound wave based. He takes it and utters those sound waves, charges it and leaves. It just goes and explodes as atomic bomb. The atom bomb sound wave based, not Uranium based. Uranium based means electrical, the light wave based. These are sound wave based. The whole thing is that's all. The light wave based does not need your cooperation. But the sound wave; I can say in this way, 'Light wave based, your logic cooperation is enough.' So the whole civilization of light wave based is logic based. Developing logic. Pilot needs to be taught how to move, this that, this that, everything. Logic based. Reproduceable without the development of the heart or the being. But our system was reproduceable only with the developed beings. Because Developed Beings was lifestyle for us! Any being born, brought up in the tradition, by the age of fourteen is a developed being. So we don't have to have separate structure to create developed beings. So it was systematically broken. First the developed being system. How to create the developed beings. Stop that. Eradicate that. Then stop the technology. Then the whole infrastructure is waste. Otherwise why do you think, such HUGE temples all over the country? Do you know in this country we have one CRORE temples and ashrams! Our whole population is only 1.2 billion, means one hundred and twenty crore. It means, each one hundred and twenty person has one temple or the ashram. And the Swamis and the preachers who dedicated their whole lives to protect this, to live this Dharma, one crore people! I am not talking about the people who don't have address, the Swamis who are wandering in the streets and begging and eating. Sleeping under the trees. No! Addressed, who has address, track record, back, the backing documentation, who he is. That kind of Swamis. One CRORE! Of course, when I say Swamis, Swamis, priests and everything put together. One CRORE! Means, the technology was true. And it is taken away from the mass. That's all! Otherwise Brahmastra was there, everything was there. It was all clear technology. And one more thing, if the Mahabharata can be imagined by some brain, so systematically, one LAKH slokas, couplets! Any one of you have read that books, in original? ONE LAKH couplet! still now that is the largest poem written on the planet earth! ONE LAKH, couplet and it is very clear from first to last scene one guy wrote. Because of the language, the language flow. The slang which he is using. Only one guy wrote. If one fellow can write ONE LAKH couplet in his life by imagining he must be God! Or little more than God! Try to write, try to see one movie script and how these fellows are struggling, and cheating and stealing from everywhere. One movie script! ONE LAKH couplet, when the brain was one third as per the scientists, few thousand years ago! That's what they say, ‘It was one third!’ When the brain was one third as per the scientists, one hundred thousand couplets, a single guy can imagine! Such a thriller story! Still it is a thriller for me! Understand, still it is a thriller for me! When I look at Mahabharata and Ramayana, still tears are in my eyes. My eyes are watery. Still it is a thriller! The other day I was travelling in Chennai, maybe three months before. When Ramayana is being played in one of the major channels, so much of publicity! Now! After so many...! I don't know still, who doesn't know Ramayana in Bharat. But still its a thriller. So, if somebody can compose, it can, its never a, its not a lie. It happened. Maybe I can say poetically described. Audience: ‘So, I was told that the Mahabharata rule was started between a clan of 5 brothers and 100 ..?’ Sorry, can you be a little loud..? by..? Audience: ‘Between 5 brothers and.’ Yes, yes, yes. between 5 brothers and 100 brothers. It was a fight for the land and the pride. Audience: 'But what created this strife if they were living, following the Vedic tradition.’ No, no, no. You see, Understand. Vedic tradition does not mean everybody is enlightened! It gives the option for enlightenment. in the 100, it is not that all these guys are enlightened. They were developed beings! All pilots are not enlightened. Same way all the fellows who are able to handle the sound wave energy is not enlightened. Developed beings! but not enlightened Beings. Ramayana was war between, war for women. Ramayana, is a war for women. You know Ramayana, you have heard Ramayana? No ? It is a Rama story. When a Master initiates disciples, he makes the commitment, promise; you would have heard that, ‘Till you become me, the superconscious, the ultimate highest experience I will continue to help you and guide you, be with you whether you leave the body or I leave the body.’ When I make this commitment to, for example; two lakh people I make this commitment. So in that two lakh, all two lakh may not have become enlightened in the next one hundred years. So some buffalos will be there. So what to do. Even if I leave the body, I should be available, for their call. So that kind of Masters only will be in Shambala with that form, retaining. Others will just disappear into the Cosmos.
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