“I will express a few truths on this subject: woman as a gender, woman…”
I will express a few truths on this subject: woman as a gender, woman as a quality and woman as a possibility of the consciousness; possibility of the consciousness and possibility for the consciousness. Oh, god! Actually the 11 dimensions of consciousness will be a lot easier. One guy, as usual rubbed the gold bottle and the genie came out. Genie asked, ‘what do you want?’ the guy said, ‘please make my wife listen to whatever I say. Genie said, ‘no, no, can you ask for some other boon? This guy said, then make a bridge from across the world. He is demanding something impossible. The genie sits and thinks. After a while the guy asks, ‘what, you decided to change my wife’s mind?’ the genie says, ‘no, no, you want four lane or six lane?
So I am thinking, 11th dimension of consciousness or…( laughs) so much to throw light on…I have to speak from Devi consciousness…alright, I have to start somewhere…
Feminine energy is enlightenment. Please understand – awakening the feminine energy inside you is enlightenment. i will first describe the feminine energy , then woman gender. See, woman has more possibility for feminine energy; otherwise feminine energy is not confined only to women. So understand the depth. In each one of us there is an energy, which constantly gives birth, expresses itself. Expression is feminine energy. All the adjustments need to be made for the expression is masculine energy.
Please understand the place needed should be created, means naturally the old has to be removed; the destruction. All that work is masculine energy’s work but the very expression is feminine energy’s work.
You see our deities, they will have two wives; almost all deities. Please don’t think its two women, two aspects of feminine energy. one the aspect which gives the fulfillment…fulfillment, physical pleasure. The other aspect gives fulfillment emotionally as the mother. one aspect which gives fulfillment physically as the beloved the other aspect which gives fulfillment emotionally as the mother.
The base, the very being, the very basic thing of the human consciousness; it can play both the roles. When you awaken the feminine consciousness in you, you will see that you are radiating physical fulfillment and emotional fulfillment which is enlightenment, practically which is enlightenment
I will describe the arunachala story, the story of arunachala. the whole arunachala story is the story of women, the story of feminine energy. The story says the Devi was meditating and inside her being the feminine energy got awakened. Please understand not masculine, feminine energy got awakened; she became ‘ardhanareshwara’. The description exactly it says,’ in Devi, the feminine energy is awakened and she becomes ardhanareshwatra, means half male, half female.
You will be surprised. See, in male, if the female energy is awakened and the description says he became half male and half female; perfectly alright, you can understand. But the story says, in Devi, the feminine energy, the feminine shakti is awakened and she became ardhanareshwara. Means when a woman experiences fulfillment she experiences her beloved aspect and mother aspect completely, the beloved aspect and the mother aspect. Please understand if you are just beloved you will be materialistic, outgoing. If you are just mother you will be introvert, caring, compassionate. But both the aspects awaken a new consciousness in you; you can say complete fulfillment.
I think with this one example you will understand, all of you can understand, with this one example all of you will be able to understand the mother and beloved dimension. If you are missing the mother dimension naturally just the beloved dimension cannot fulfill you. If you are missing the beloved dimension just the mother dimension cannot fulfill you. The body and emotion both will have fulfillment only when you experience both the dimensions. A person who can experience and express both dimensions is ardhanareshwara. Please understand ardhanareshwara does not mean just half male and half female. Ardhanareshwara is a person who has experienced both dimensions of feminine qualities, both dimensions of feminine qualities.
When a man becomes enlightened he becomes a leader; when a woman becomes enlightened she becomes a mother and beloved, the ability to radiate both the dimensions. The arunachala story describes Devi she expresses both her dimensions that is why she became ardhanareshwara; she experiences and radiates ardhanareshwara consciousness.
Each one of you are carrying the feminine energy. Awakening the feminine energy is enlightenment. Please understand the first introduction to Tantra, I will get the sutras and read the sutras to you guys. You will be surprised the first introduction to tantra, Shiva has spoken 64 tantras, 64 tantras and around 60,000 sutras. Please understand I commented only on 112 sutras but Shiva has spoken 60,000 sutras!
The first introduction he makes, he tells, ‘whoever listens, let you all become Devi; only then you can understand this sutra, this techniques. He says very beautifully, he gives us a meditation technique, even the brain set up even the thinking, the body, the physical body language, the mental setup, whatever you know as feminine consciousness or women, meditate on that. Please understand you can’t actually completely understand woman consciousness even if you are woman, even if you think you are women.
So the feminine consciousness, I have to use two different words: feminine consciousness and woman body. Woman body has more possibility for feminine consciousness. That does not mean that just because you are in a woman’s body you will experience or express feminine consciousness. When Shiva starts the Tantra, first thing he says; intensely meditate on the feminine consciousness; whatever idea you have about the feminine consciousness, live. And Ramakrishna he practiced this technique…if you have read ramakrishna’s biography any of you have read Ramakrishna’s biography will understand, he says nine months he practiced the technique; he really became woman. Not only feminine consciousness, he became woman…he says the complete circle of energy, the complete circle of energy happened in me in the nine months. He says the completion of energy happened in me in these nine months. The whole Taoism, the whole Taoism is nothing but awakening the feminine consciousness in you.
In the whole world there are only two religions, one, the religion based on socio-political rules, the other one on sacred feminine worship; that’s all. Understand, there is only two religions on planet earth; one is the organization based, male based socio political laws. All religions created by males are socio political laws. All traditions created by women are sacred feminine consciousness. Everything; I have made the whole thing very clear.
Understand, any religion which has female component has the sacred, the feminine consciousness, means spiritual strength. Any tradition which has a male component is a socio-political law; that’s all.
So anything spiritual or inner world or super conscious, that segment belongs to feminine energy. The whole Taoism is nothing but waking the feminine consciousness, feminine energy in your being. Understand, any pleasure you feel inside, any pleasure which you feel inside through your nerves, through your system, through your consciousness without any external need is feminine energy. It is feminine energy.
I think there is so much to tell; even when I spoke about avatar I did not feel this much of files. The subject says, ‘woman-high possibility of enlightenment’, I can say enlightenment, high possibility of becoming woman. I have to change the subject…enlightenment-high possibility of being woman. It is not woman is the high possibility for enlightenment. Enlightenment is the high possibility for a woman. Our traditions describe…Vedic tradition is, I think only tradition which describes the whole cosmos itself as the brahmanda yoni. Please understand it is not saying brahmanda linga; no! The original upanishadic description does not say brahmanda linga, means not the cosmic masculine energy, it’s the cosmic feminine energy.
I can say feminine energy is the space in which the whole thing happens. As Shiva says before starting the Tantra, very clearly he says: awaken the feminine energy in you, meditate on the feminine energy in you. Only then you can receive the sutras. See the originally the sutras are delivered to Devi after she became enlightened; please understand, not before that. It was a conversation between an enlightened being and enlightened being. After she became enlightened it was delivered. That is why I am saying…I am not saying woman is a high possibility of enlightenment; enlightenment is the high possibility of being woman.
After enlightenment, Siva is teaching all these truths and he says meditate on feminine qualities, become feminine, only then you can receive these great truths, you can experience these great truths.
The subject is too broad, that is why… too much, too much needs to be expressed. Even when I spoke about avatara I did not struggle this much. I finished within few minutes. Anything conscious is feminine, all other adjustments happens in Existence for this consciousness to exist is masculine.
Understand anything exists is feminine consciousness. All the adjustments needed, all the other movements needed for this to exist, those adjustments and all can be called as masculine. That’s all!
The center is feminine consciousness. Like the queen and all the workers can be called as masculine energy, that’s all! That is why our rishis described very clearly the cosmos as the Deviloka, means Devi as the center, feminine energy and all the masculine energy, including Brahma, Vishnu, rudra, eshana, sadashiva, all. All masculine energy are just servants. You will be surprised how the Devi is described. The brahma, creation, Vishnu, maintenance, rudra, destruction, eshana, putting people into illusion and sadashiva , liberating people. All fiveenergies are the 4 pillars of the Devi;s cot and platform of the cot.
Four guys are sitting as the four pillars and the fifth one is the cot base and on that Devi is sitting. The description says when she is not sitting it is called pancha pretasana, means the five dead bodies; when she sits it is called pancha brahmasana means five consciousness. Understand this one example then you will understand the feminine energy, the role of the feminine energy or the understanding of the feminine energy. See these are the five activities…why don’t you stop writing and drop all your pen and paper. No more notes when I am talking throughout the program. Many times I told, listen, internalize. I am not giving you technical knowledge. I am trying to…see I am using every subject to make one more door open in you. I am not giving you just technical knowledge. Actually if you take this technical knowledge separately it won’t have any meaning. Creation, maintenance, destruction, putting people into illusions and liberation, these are the five activities of Brahma, Vishnu, Rudra, Ishana and Sadashiva. So the Devi’s throne is made of these five energies. All are sitting as four pillars and Sadashiva is lying as the base. You see all my thrones, that is how it will be designed. And the description says when she is not there she is pancha pretasana; preta means dead bodies, five dead bodies. When she sits it is called pancha brahmasana, means five consciousness or five cosmic energies.
So the whole thing, what exists is feminine. See, if you dig, dig, dig, whatever is masculine in you, kill it; you are enlightened. Whatever is not feminine, just kill it. You are enlightened. Whatever is feminine can’t be killed because that is life source, source of life. There are many things that is not source of life, you think as life, is jada, matter. Please understand, whether it is your mental attachment, corruption, pollution in your consciousness or inner space, anything, anything, anything which is not feminine if you renounce, you are enlightened.
Please understand, you have two parts, one is the life, life which pulsates with you, which is living energy in you, which is shining as light in your eyes, which is giving you the feeling of the ‘I am’. That is what is called consciousness. And there something else is added, your mind, your body for the sake of movements, to do what you want; that part is added is masculine. That is why the masculine part is always aggressive, restless, rajasic. Anything that is restless in you is masculine part. Anything which is alive is passive. Please understand, anything which is alive will be passive. Anything which is alive will be passive. It will not interfere, it will not be restless, it will not be moving.
‘Chala’ means moving; achala means life. Anything which is life will be passive because it does not need anything from outside. Only if you need something you will be restless. If you need something from outside you are not feminine, you are not feminine. Please understand when you purify yourself, that is why I said woman has more possibility for feminine consciousness. Just because you are woman don’t think you are already female, you are already experiencing feminine consciousness; no. if you are restless for something of the outer world you are, you carry masculine energy. Carry the pure passivity. Passiveness is life. Carrying that pure life is feminine quality.
When I utter the word passiveness you have some idea, maybe a little bit of a mixture of laziness, that is okay, no problem. Feel that passiveness is like a patch you are carrying it in this area. Carry that passiveness, that feminine mood in this area, today, the whole day. You will understand what I am talking. From now, whatever you visualize as a feminine consciousness…see, the moment you listen to the word ‘feminine consciousness’, or passive life energy, you have some idea. Carry that mood, that idea, in your heart, today, the whole day. You can even visu, nothing wrong, you can visualize you are the woman body. Just remove the male body, you can visualize yourself as a Devi. Even if you are carrying a woman body, visualize yourself as a Devi, means pure, feminine consciousness…pure, feminine consciousness…passive, life.
Understand, society is male minded, restlessness. That is why life is always described as restlessness. Especially the western mind based society. Life means restlessness. If you are more active, oh, lot of life is happening here. I don’t know how these fellows are saying that New York is the place where life is happening. So much of restlessness; nobody knows why people are running but that is the symbol of life. You call it Big Apple, na? Big Apple, Big Apple, symbol of life. Understand because of that you also imbibe the idea life means masculine, restlessness; no! life means deeply passive and feminine.
I can say one of the biggest calamity happened to the human civilization is women are asked to work and make a living like men, for which they are not created. Please understand that is one of the worst calamity because the role they need to play, the contribution they need to do did not happen because they were made to, they were used to create infrastructure.
Manu says very clearly anywhere women are used to create infrastructure that place will be ruled by ghosts. Now I think all of you can understand the meaning of the word Manu smriti. Manu is not degrading women; he is giving them the right place. Which the west does not understand; which West does not understand. Understand, he says if women are used to create infrastructure that country will be ruled by ghosts, means people who are depressed, people who are demons.
That is what is happening. That is what I am seeing because women have better role to play on human consciousness. They are living models of examples of intense, passive life energy. They need to remind planet earth again and again about living enlightenment, the feminine consciousness, by their life. But when they are made to use, made to create, when they are used to create infrastructure, that priority of awakening feminine consciousness, radiating feminine consciousness, has lost. When that is lost, I can say when the model is lost, the lifestyle is lost.
Again Manu says very clearly, unless the depression of women is removed the society cannot evolve. If women, see, the feminine consciousness, if the restlessness is planted, the goal orientation is planted by the society, naturally she will suffer with depression; because her consciousness is not hard wired for that. Feminine consciousness, woman body is not hardwired for infrastructure, for civilization. Please understand, any goals related to civilization infrastructure implanted in woman consciousness is will directly lead her to depression and it will impact on the civilization as, you can say, all possible dangers.
There are so many files, so much to tell because I myself am basically a Devi worshipper. The first mantra I got initiated into is Devi mantra and the first experience which I had is feminine consciousness and I can say the person who gave me sannyas first…I received two three initiations, different things from different people. First one was from female guru and my first disciple, mantra diksha, female and first my sanyasini, woman. And, if you see the whole thing …
If you exist as you are you are in feminine consciousness. If you want anything and move physically or mentally you are in masculine consciousness. So that anything you want, physically or mentally and moving, if that movement is stopped, you are done. Nothing else; that’s all. If you just remain in the feminine consciousness you are done. I can go on and on and on and explain, express so much about…if men are asked to create infrastructure and women are asked to radiate feminine consciousness the whole civilization would’ve been different.
All the religions based on sacred feminine energy are peacemaking religions; accepts everybody, everything. All the religions based on masculine are all terrorist based religions, cannot tolerate others’ existence. See, I am giving you the very clear base definitions. All the mother based religions, the sacred feminine based religions not only they will be passive, accepting everything. Anything which cannot tolerate others will be masculine.
All right, I‘ll connect each file which is coming out of me with your questions. I think then I will be able to tell more things because I am …too much is there. When I connect with your questions you will be able to relate and these truths can work on you. I think before starting the questions few minutes just sit as Devi with a deep passive life. Sit as Devi. Don’t bother whether you are carrying a male body or female body; just sit as Devi, pure feminine consciousness which is beyond male or female body. Be Devi; see very clearly your body is not there, in your place is Devi as you……..you can open your eyes, relax.
I will answer your questions. Swamiji, will you please explain about the science of Chandra namaskar and how it awakens the feminine energy? I can say Chandra namskar is the posture, physical movements to awaken the feminine consciousness. It really awakens, balances…it’s a physical level help, but we will go into the deeper levels. Today I am really in mood and the right subject. Only these guys, many guys are sleeping. I don’t know why. Come on what happened, no rest or what? You guys should be rested. By 11 class was over, 11 I left but by the time I slept it was one o clock because I was sitting in the ashramite’s meeting. Morning what time they came? Six? Six only? So five they would’ve got up, six they will be here. They had enough of rest then, 11 to 5 is 6 hrs. both the sisters are sleeping on each other.
How many of you feel less sleepy today? Because ,from today, every day I am going to come at 7o’clock. One side you guys are clapping the other side sleeping. All right I will see, I will come every day but if I see that you guys are not able to handle then I will reduce the time.
1. What is male /female part of Maya? Maya does not have female part. Because male created the spiritual literatures, they projected Maya as female. Maya does not have female part. Feminine part is life.
2. How do we see female part in Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva w/o their wives? Actually, the description I gave, that throne, w/o the female part they are all shava, preta. With Devi sitting, only then they are Brahma…
3. When we say nirvikalpa Samadhi, sahaja Samadhi are they expressions of feminine energy? Mmm, nirvikalpa Samadhi, sahaja Samadhi is nothing but the expression of pure feminine consciousness.
4. Daivi…Swamiji, please explain working on infrastructure. Means the career consciousness is put inside you. In the vedic civilization women never had to be career oriented. Now, you also carry the stress of finding a job, maintaining a career and making whatever is needed for life and creating infrastructure, you understand? Foolish way, this is what is taken as equal rights. It is not. Right to be what you are is equal right. Right to be what you are is equal right. The male chauvinistic society is so cunning it just started exploiting you …you doing…if you do this you are equal to us. That’s where the whole problem is. So the career based mental set up is what I call being used for infrastructure.
5. Feminine energy is creation then why not use feminine women for creating infrastructure? Please understand feminine energy is life, passive life. The passive life creates intelligence for work to happen. But they are made as workers. That’s a big difference. So the source of intelligence is not used. People ask me many times, especially the Press why don’t you go and do social services in every village Swamiji instead of sitting and taking classes. These fools don’t know that by sitting and taking classes I am creating thousands of social workers. I am creativity, creation, if I go and do social services in some village every day , I can, I will be able to manage two village, three village but if I am sitting and radiating this energy I can ceate thousands of social workers. You understand the difference? Set thing…originally in all evolved civilizations, the high class, the Brahmin community,evolved civilizations, in those days I am saying, not now, Brahmins and Chettiars, all those communities, women are the consultants. They held the wealth and the financial decisions. They are decision makers. They were decision makers.
6. Could you please give us clarity on feminine qualities that fosters and grows Devi consciousness? Deep passive life; even compassion, motherliness, all these things are smell of feminine consciousness, not feminine consciousness itself. Feminine consciousness is a deep passive life. That is the description that I can give.
7. Given the social set up today what can you do to start awakening the feminine energy in women? I will answer this question elaborately; after the breakfast I will attend that. This gives complete light on Sankhya philosophy prakriti-purush. Purush is seed, is infrastructure. Yes, Babubhaiji? It’s a …this is actuallyone of the biggest philosophical problems I have solved in this morning’s discussion. You guys are not earlier educated in the philosophy cannot understand; only people who are educated in the philosophy can relate to what I was saying..
I think this is the biggest complication in the Sankhya system I solved it just in half an hour. Prakriti is base.
9. I felt the meditation opening up the anahata and merging with the ananda gandha, slowly my vishuddhi started opening up and then the sahasrara, it eventually ended in the anahata opening up radiant lotus flower in it. Does this make sense? It makes sense; it’s working ma. Alright, wonderful questions … Sadashiva’s question..i think you guys can go for your breakfast and come back, I will answer every question. Every question I can connect one file that downloaded in me and it will be useful for you guys. Not only that for posterity. I decided all these things will get edited and come out as books.
11. Swaroopa- I did not understand deep passive, could you please explain. That’s the most sad thing happened to women, understand, the most sad thing that can happen to women is unable to understand the word ‘being passive’; passiveness in the very depth of your being. Please understand, even inside that deep space without restlessness. See, if you try to be passive superficially you can be passive, inside you will be boiling, when the session will end, I can get out. Even inside complete passiveness. Just life; just life without any outgoing extravertness … center of creation. See, anything, first thought comes, then it is created…even without the thought coming…just being there.
14. Swamiji, earlier you had mentioned that no one is 100% male or female, one is either 49 % male or 49%female and 51% of the other gender, balancing both leads to enlightenment. This morning you mentioned awakening the feminine consciousness is enlightenment.
When you are awakening the female conscious only then you become balanced, the very balancing is female consciousness. Male consciousness will never be balancing, it will always be aggressive, it will be taking over; always the male mind will be taking over. But the female consciousness will be always balancing.
15.I am wondering about the two aspects of female physical , beloved, extravert, materialistic, emotional, mother, introvert, caregiver. The materialistic piece which goes with the physical, extravert aspect of the female was not fit with the concept of ultimate passivity. Could it be the physical extravert aspect of the creative force was born out of the passivity?
Yes, one more thing, ma, even the completely when you are the beloved, extravert you will not be restless; you understand? At one center, beloved and mother will be one and the same and will be radiating pure romance like radha. Radha is not extravert, even though she is beloved. So you will radiate a kind of a … always a beloved need not be an extravert. The initial level you will be an extravert, not after that. q…inaudible… After a certain level, even if you radiate the beloved energy like radha you will not be extravert. A mature…its actually a step by step…in the initial level, even in the mother attitude, you will be extravert. After certain mature, even in the beloved attitude you will not be extravert, you will be introvert. Just for casual connection I connected the extravert word with the beloved attitude. But that does not…extravert is not a complete quality of belovedness. You understand what I am saying? You see the beloved aspect and the mother aspect so to give you more clarity on the word beloved I said extravert and intravert. That does not mean the extravert, introvert word is always connected to the beloved and mother. I only used few more words to it to give you more clarity, definition; that’s all. Otherwise even in the belovedness if you get riped the extravert will disappear. Radha is beloved energy, but she is never extravert. Now you are catching it?
(Some Q from participant…inaudible) No, Radha is Krishna’s wife, Krishna’s beloved. Mmm? Radha means success you are saying? Oh, the name radha, I don’t know what. I don’t think it has a separate Sanskrit meaning, exactly it means…babubhai, any meaning for radha? I never bothered to know the meaning of the word because she was never considered the success of the outer world. (Inaudible question from participant) Maybe you can give that meaning, but beloved word does not mean extravert always. That’s all.
Gnanatmananda … since expression of feminine consciousness is irrespective of gender, why in manu smriti men are expeted to build infra structure It’s like why are you, why your legs are expected to be used for walking, not hands. Made for that, you understand; that’s all. Legs are made for walking, not hands. Same way men are made for creating infrastructure; that’s all. By its nature; but when it comes to consciousness its not a natural process, it’s a strong tapas. See, expressing feminine consciousness means enlightenment, it is not natural ,you are potentially carrying the feminine consciousness. But working at creating infrastructure, by nature you are built for that. If a man works he can become enlightened, if a women works she can become enlightened but as natural body she is created to radiate the feminine consciousness and support men; men are created to create infrastructure and support women. By nature this is the way but both can work and achieve either enlightenment or the opposite side. They can get into depression or enlightenment. They have the freedom. The music we woke up to this morning was as beautiful as the meditation. Susan, was it the suprabath? Oh, that is actually the greeting, good morning song for me. Suprabhatam means the good morning song; deities will have a song to wake up, the song is ‘good morning’ for me. Its called, ‘bhubhala raga’, that’s a special raga. The early morning how the sun rises in the same tone they will sing. You can get the CD it is available. Its I think ‘morning greetings’, that’s the name of the song, name of the CD.
What’s the difference between passiveness and acceptance? Even acceptance has some negative connotation, something will come and you will accept. But in passiveness nothing will come, nothing will come.
When you speak of women and deep passiveness I feel myself crumble inward to my center and I cry. I solely raised my 3 children and they were all under 5 yrs of age. It was very difficult to be a mother and hold a high position in the medical world. I have deep guilt for not fulfilling my deepest desire, which is to be always present and compassionate to my children. It was such a relief to hear you say my deepest desire, that my true centre was/ is my true self. Great! Swami, Swami, mmm, yes? Radha means rasaya kosa, rasaya kosa, embodiment of rasa, rasaya kosa So all the rasayi…rasaya kosa…kosa radha… Rasaya kosa radha… So embodiment of the juice in everything, ma. In everything there is some juice, so she is the embodiment of that juice. See, whatever you may be doing at the end of the day you will have, you will know what the juice of your life is. You will want her. So she is the juice of the whole thing. Very beautiful…rasaya yoga, rasaya kosa…rasaya kosaha radhah. This satisamas and all is…God! If somebody learns Sanskrit with sincerity you will become enlightened, because all the concept will lead you to enlightenment. Alison you will become completely alright by today. How can learning happen with passiveness? Does that mean analytical side is not important?
Understand, if you are completely passive anything that needs to be learned comes in front of you , the lesson needs to be learnt will be raised; that’s all. You will learn the lesson without doing the post mortem. Learning by doing postmortem is active learning which will always be half knowledge. Understand after you kill the body whatever knowledge you get is not complete. That is why ayurveda does not have side effect; because these medicines are created for the living body. But all allopathic medicines are created for dead bodies. You understand, the analysis of the whole thing goes on the dead body… but ayurvedic masters, they are intelligent enough to handle the whole thing, diagnose the whole thing when the person is alive. So the whole Rand D goes on in the living person. So with a deep, passive consciousness anything that comes in front of you without getting killed or postmortem done, you will learn the lessons. With deep passiveness you will learn more lessons strongly than being active.
Some inaudible question. Yesterday’s and today’s you are trying to connect, see today’s , this lesson which I am saying, that deep passiveness, the space that you experience, which you experience is the same you will experience if you had done yesterday’s ironing. From outside when you start it looks too different but when you send it will be the same.
(Inaudible question) That’s ok, leave it. (Again inaudible sharing continues…) Yes deep passiveness, yes…that’s what I mean. I can say that… there is no need for actively fighting, doing postmortem,if lessons are learned, over.
Why women started going with the idea of trying to be equal to men? Because man used women by putting this idea into their head. See its like a this …so called developed civilization which has media under its control it goes on promoting that man should live like this, that is life, that is life, that is life, hiding a deep depression…66% psychiatric patients, huge cancer is inside their system. They are covering it and promoting all over the world… $600 billion are used by the western civilization to promote their civilization and their civilisational products to the products to the Third World countries. $600 billion are used through media, through all other ways to promote their lifestyle, the Big Apple, every year to the Third World countries. Why? Only then, see, if they promote that lifestyle is ultimate they can never be equated by these guys. These guys will never be their equal. How much ever these guys struggle and go up and go up and down. They will always be 10 steps slow. So that is why $600 billion are used to promote that lifestyle. Bharat is bombarded by MTV…just bombarded, $600 billion every year is used to promote that life style which is resulting in 66% of depression… 66% of people in Europe and USA, the developed countries, all developed countries take some form of psychiatric drug. Please understand, all developed countries put together takes some form of psychiatric drugs every day once in 24 hours. S o that life style is left and right promoted using $600 billion. So naturally all others, what to do? See unless you promote your life style is best how will you justify your depression. You need to now justify your depression…come on! 66% of your population is depressed; why? So promote and have the feeling that this is the right lifestyle. Or in a way it is business also… jeans, clothes, food, coke, everything, its business also. So finally, people who are not leading that life style they are trained, trained ,trained ,trained for depression, nothing else. Same thing, men are very intelligent, to hide their depression they promote their lifestyle left and right. The whole media is under their control, aggressive. And women are made to feel that they are equal with men that’s all. Otherwise what right this poor fellow has, nothing. But this fellow goes on bragging…see I can do this, I can do this then they think, ah, let me also do. Fight starts, that’s why the whole fight starts. But finally, in this fight men only is going to win, because he started the fight. Whoever starts the fight will always be intelligent and he will take care few weapons are reserved with him. Understand, any world war, any war, who starts will always win because he will prepare enough weapons and he will reserve few which others don’t have, which others will never get. Naturally he is only going to win. Same way this women trying to become equal to men, the problem is created by men. These guys they have their own some reserved weapons; if the fight goes on, these guys are going to win. Dropping out is the best way for you guys to win…drop out, just drop out and say we declare our independence. Then they ( women) will win. yes…
Swamiji isn’t it a problem because both of them are….it looks like some intelligent scheming is going on...
S:No, not intelligent; I can say cunning, yes…
So there is no consciousness actually; if they are conscious this will never happen… (Incomprehensible question…)
S: They need to justify something…
So that again comes from insecurity also…
S: swetha and ram…ram? Where is ram? why? Taking care of the child? Oh, God! I wanted him also to be here…alright…talk to my secretary today…before leaving ma and I will answer…actually I called you guys to have a feel of what we all do, what we are doing, all these things …for that only. Talk to him today.
Hearing and internalizing deep passivity the picture that comes in my mind’s eye is respect for my mother. Thank you for all those who serve you, through you.
Great, sadashiva…ha ha ha
Now I am having trouble understanding what my role should be. I always imagined myself working in the future that is the reason I am currently studying to be a lawyer. I know you said women can work and still be enlightened. Henna…where is she? Alright I will answer 1st line… all these guys are making fun of you…. Being a lawyer, nothing wrong ma…
I feel society is having too much influence on an individual’s gender being. Have you heard of the western term ‘top dog’?
I don’t understand…
Its used for girls who behave boyish… society also keeps insisting girls go to school, study hard, go to college, get a job…teaches true female roles spreading female consciousness…I am also wondering what if I were to stay wholly as an ananda samaji…many thoughts are flowing, please share your insights.
Satprakashini…just for that you don’t have to work ma…if you take up mission work you will reach more people na? see, if you want, if you are feeling insecure you need to work. Just to be an ananda samaji you don’t need to work. If you take up mission work you will reach more people.
Ever since last year I feel I don’t want to do public life , all I want to do is mission work but if we do something like, like…
Yes, no, no, no… please understand….when you are not being pressured by fear or greed, your inspiration is realized then it is not working for society. Sometimes in the sangha I use fear and greed just to push you into the inspiration, not to keep that as a fuel forever. In society inspiration is used to push you to fear and greed…
But during the yogam tour I did want to drop everything and work for the mission…
You will have answer soon…
Yesterday’s meditation, especially the ironing part led finally to surrender. Today’s deep passivity also seems to be surrender. Is this right? Anuradha, right! Many people are deep passivity,but few are very sleepy! Many have touched the great passivity but few are sleeping…what to do?!
During the break I was in a feminine energy mood like you asked us to be in. I noticed something: I was very giving and forgiving. That is wonderful…smell of feminine energy, feminine consciousness!
I gave what someone asked for without even thinking; is very unusual for me as I think many times before giving something. I also felt a little vulnerable, a little understanding or click that I could give anything and it was scary…
What you are feeling scary, you are talking about…I was in feminine mood, such a deep feminine mood, somebody came and asked for kumbabhishekam, I was thinking, yesterday I was thinking I will give 1 lakh, today I gave 5 lakh and came out, just now! yesterday I was thinking I will give a lakh of rupee, these guys are coming and I sont know what happened, I was in some mood. They came and asked me and asked what is the budget, they said 5 lakhs we need swamiji; I said have it, ayya give5 lakhs and came away. Actually in the feminine mood you will never be…see…in the feminine mood you are life, you don’t need anything else. You just don’t need anything else. Fortunately they said 5 lakhs budget, otherwise I don’t know what budget they said I don’t know what I would’ve told or anything…just they said and I did not even think twice…I just looked at ayya eyes and said see everthing is given and I just came out…so, feminine energy is like that. You are life…
I also felt a little vulnerable… no, no, no, don’t feel vulnerable; don’t feel…you see, now I am not feeling I am cheated; they did not cheat…the joy…see, for the 5 lakh giving, for the 5 lakh I may have to work for a few more hours…or few days or few months…that is worthy of that beautiful feeling I am going through… you understand, that beautiful, that feminine consciousness which I am radiating…that is worthy of the few lakhs…nothing wrong… what did I do …after all…for that money I will work a few more days, few more months…that’s all…so its ok… so don’t feel vulnerable… if you feel vulnerable you will avoid the female consciousness… you will start putting boundary for this feminine consciousness… when ever the mother energy comes besides you , you will say, no, no, no, I will be vulnerable, I will stop giving people, I will be cheated…no! trust, be vulnerable…even if you are exploited…nothing wrong. You think that I will be losing something? Nothing! It will go and it will come…its already happening… but the consciousness which I enjoy, that feminine consciousness that is something really solid…that is worthy of everything, that is worthy of everything…
A little click or understanding that I could give anything was a little scary… Don’t be scared, its ok. What is there? Even a person like me feels this…I can relate with what you said in Madura bhava…mathru bhava…not Madura bhava, mathru bhava, you will grant anything people will want… You understand morning I was not even, I was…sat for two minutes ans said,’let all these guys feel like Devi, that’s all…when you sat…can you understand…for two, three seconds I felt like Devi.. I went out and 5 lakh…just that 2…3 secs of Devi bhava..mmm…its ok, nothing wrong…but I don’t feel I am cheated or anything… I feel that consciousness…arrey, whatever expresses through this body that is responsible for all this wealth… so if some consciousness expresses and gives all this away, let it happen that’s all! See, whatever wealth you have is the mood which expressed through you is responsible; am I right? The mood to work, the mood to think…all those things are responsible. If some mood comes and gives it away… who gave, who got, he gave…over! You understand…who got, he gave…see, I got all this wealth because of the feminine consciousness expressing. So today the same consciousness is expressing and it is giving; over! What? There is no such thing as everyday this should not happen …I tell you everyday if it happens also because of the power of feminine consciousness, it will bring whatever it needs. And even if it doesn’t bring, its ok…I am not bothered. If it brings, I will enjoy; if it does not bring I will enjoy. Over! See, that last final break of acceptance has to happen; till that happens you will continue to suffer…at one point the ice has to break…I am breaking it with hundred ideas; at one point, it has to break…till it breaks, nothing can be done…what I am telling now I am breaking everyday through so many angles… one day I throw a stone at you…one day I throw bottles,…some glasses, sometimes flowers, sometimes an arrow, sometimes some weapons, sometimes stones, sometimes sticks…sometimes knife…something I am throwing…but, something has to hit you… and it has to break; no other way, something has to break. Yes…?
If women are an expression of living enlightenment cant they lead as examples in every walk of life? I am not saying women are example…feminine consciousness is example. So live that feminine consciousness then you will live enlightenment…
It is not possible for women to be passive and career oriented… There are careers, passive-based careers…you can be…I can say it will not be career based actually career orientation…it will be like a living…it will be like a living…
Nurturing choicelessness acceptance seems very feminine passively; at some point intelligence through intuition rather than influences the course of events. Is is like the snake story, hiss but don’t bite? If necessary feminine energy is very strong, almost a shock absorber, active but… Is this understanding right? Sadashiva, right, actually…you are right. Actually, women when you are strong are not hurting. Even the hissing hurts, you see, frightens. But you will not even do that . you will be strong but…they will know boundary is cut; now nothing can be done.
If one is an apparent, assertive, bubbly, verbal, outward personality as a woman what is the place for this in the way you describe the feminine? Understand these qualities are not against women, the feminine . femine consciousness is totally different form the qualities expressed. Sometime you will be bubbling, sometimes you will be passive. The problem is when you re bubbling you think you are restless, when you are passive you are depressed; remove that idea. When you are passive be passive, when you are bubbling, be bubbling; over! There will be a space both will touch, that is what is feminine consciousness. But you always put a wrong label for your lives. When you are active and bubling you think, oh, I am restless, when you are really passive, no, no, no, I am depressed. That is when the problem starts. I think I answered all the three questions.
When you said passive life equivalent to feminine consciousness I can understand passive part but is life not equal to energy… Energy is passiveness…understand. Intense passiveness is energy… But energy keeps moving, right? It doesn’t stand still…(Q) If it keeps moving something is empty, something is lacking, that is why it has the space to move, that itself shows it is not full…if there is a space to move how can it be full? Is passivity sahaj shakti?(Q) Mm? sahaj shakti…yes. Passive LIFE! See, it is full…packed life. See the moment you have the imagination moving, it is not complete. So you have the idea of energy like (?)… You understand? But the energy which I am talking is Intelligence…just shining, no moving.
So you are equating energy with consciousness? What? Energy is equated with consciousness? Same word, different meaning, that’s why…that’s the problem
Does expressing feminine energy include the form of nurturing, having husband, kids? I can say…in the Vedic marriage there is a mantra: let your husband become your 11th kid. By the 11th year you are supposed to become mother for him. Then, you are, I can say that, fulfilling.
In Vedic culture how were women treated when they were married versus when they were single? Married women were also highly, they were the head, ma, practically in the vedic tradition to run the family. They were the centre pin and power center. And when they were single naturally sanyasinis, highly respected, regarded.
How will it work in today’s culture when making women carry the orientalist way of life when there is no support system? Woman is not married and not educated for a career. Tcha! I will create monasteries, I will create monasteries…that is the only way…
Is being shy a passive feminine quality? No! Being shy is egoistic and arrogant. Who put the question? Being shy is not a feminine quality, ma… LIFE!
Sriram, you are asking do you mean by feminine energy as shakti? Whatever exists is energy? Yes. That is what I mean.
Swapna is asking, because I am in a male body she feels her love for me as mother should not get divided or confused. Don’t bother; I may …I have to carry one body that is why I am carrying the male body. Otherwise, in consciousness I don’t feel either male or female. I am only feeling I am beyond both. I will not have a problem, don’t worry. You can continue to relate with me as a mother. When we say the manasa puja…I don’t feel awkward when someone addresses me as amother because everyday kalpataru half crowd addresses me as mother. I don’t feel awkward, mm. first of all I don’t feel that strong identification with the gender. Just you guys also decide. Who are people to decide, force any gender on you? If you feel like being a male or female just decide: I will be female or I will be male; that’s all! Have freedom to live the gender of you, what you wanted. Maybe the outside society’s, for the society’s reason, sake you wear the dress what the society wants and all. But in the consciousness you can change as you want, what is there? Have full freedom.
When we say the manasa puja, the qualities that we describe amoham araham, all the fifteen, do they awaken the feminine energy? No! After feminine energy is awakened those things come as prasadam. Only the feminine consciousness awakening is the first, then the 15 qualities comes as the next.
Should females engage in nurturing professions, teaching, nursing, medical? Yes! Rather than corporate and finance? Yes! Teaching, nursing, medical…all these things are the best thing…art, dance, all those things. In Bharat we had a huge tradition of Devadaasi tradition. Women are trained and only this is the only life they were doing. And they only used to teach the kids the Kama Sutra. Slowly it got degraded and tcha! somehow, somehow, it got degraded to the level they have been used and become a prostitution. That is why that tradition was now banned. Otherwise they were the tradition to teach all the art, this is the tradition that came to the West and got named as witches and got killed by the Vatican. These people, they were the tantric masters, ma. From the beginning they learned tantra and they learned meditation, they learned dancing, all the rangoli, painting, everything; all the art. The whole thing was under their control. The intellectual dimension of Lakshmi, Saraswathi was under their control. So they were managing the all these things. They were, what to say that,umm,…among them they had classification. People who were intellect based, they were called saraswathi, brahmanas. People who were the art based, they were called lakshmi, vaishyas; people who are shakti, energy based they were called vaishyas, shaktikas, sorry; shaktikas, devi. They had three different groups, they were working all over the world, keeping the sacred feminine alive. The thing is in course of time, they got degraded in the East and got killed in the West. There are records, you see, we all think that the holocaust caused the largest crime that happened against humanity…no! ten times more people have been killed being named as witches by the organized religions. Ten times more women have been killed. The sacred feminine…any of you saw the Da Vinci Code? (ya, response from participants). Mary Magdalena was from this tradition. Whatever Jesus took from Bharat he taught to her. He taught…vhat to do?! After any Master dies, the female devotees and male devotees, always there used to be fight. If the male group wins it will become a sanyas organization, socio-political organization. If female group wins it will be a silent society, carrying the spiritual truth, living stream but not a huge organization. This what always happens. Always, this what happens. So I am taking care this time there is no fight and two separate branches are being maintained…(applause) unfortunately, even in Swaminarayan male part won. See, the Swaminarayan swamis don’t see women but the funny thing is Swaminarayan himself lived with seventeen women! Center is guru, this side 17 women, this side sanyasis. He lived in a kind of L-shaped building; the center room, this side all his lady disciples stayed, this side all his male sanyasis stayed. Even with Ramakrishna, unfortunately, the male took over.
Is being compassionate to feminine? I can say, smell of feminine quality.
How can we be compassionate and not be exploited? Forget about the boundary of exploitation. See, what did you bring? There is nothing. Just drop the idea of exploitation. What can be exploited…let it be; its ok! That’s what…before they exploit you, you yourself declare, throw away the sweet. Don’t even donate, you will have a subtle expectation he should respect me back, he should reciprocate to my donation. Throw away the sweet, then who can exploit you? Just mentally decide I have thrown away everyrhing to the street, then no exploitation. Sridevi is laughing because she knows I am answering to you only. (laughs) there is no such thing as exploitation.
If maya is masculine are women less inclined to fantasy? No, women, women in the modern day are no more women. I can say that is the difference between feminine consciousness and women. So now, women are also in the equal distance to feminine consciousness as men. Maybe a little possibilities are there because of the body structure, a little, the natural maybe I can say 2% allowance or 3% allowance is there. Other than that…tcha…( makes a sad sound)
Debbie is asking can we have srividhya pooja today? Yes, we’ll have, we will have ( applause). Just half an hour of it, in the night we will have. Before food…first I will chant chandi for you guys then we will have sri vidhya.
Neel is asking: Swamiji you said males continue on infrastructure and females on consciousness. Then life would be better. Do you see that happening any time soon? At least in our civilization, civilization which we are starting; we will do it. We will make it happen.
Somebody is asking…they don’t want the name to be read but the question can be read… Please don’t read my name but you can read the question if you want. My question is if you are male and feel over emotional more times than before does that mean you have a strong female part in you? Yes, one thing. Second, the female part was suppressed all this time; third thing, now it is reclaiming its space, its right over you. This are the third, three things. Does that have to do only with depression? It will jump only on depression because that is the weak point for you. It will reclaim its space. Allow the depression to happen, don’t bother. You will see that in joy also you will be expanded.
Give more light on chakras and feminine consciousness. I told you know; I explained.
Swamiji, the consumerist male attitude of our society is exploiting natural resources so fast, Amazon forest, mining, oiling,how long can this be sustained according to your vision? As per my vision long before it would have disappeared. Even, still see the planet earth is running is a miracle, .because the amount of damage we cause…and the abusal we do to planet earth…still the planet earth isrunning; its really a miracle, so…lets see how long it goes…that’s all.
These are already answered…these are some of, same questions…
Is it not true that any career that one has passion for can be passive? For example, if a lawyer is working out of passion for a cause such as ending child labour and not for the money. He/she is passive and not career oriented.
Diwakar, that is possible. Can you explain feminine passiveness further. How does one act or think? Intensity without greed is intensity with passiveness. Doing what you need to do, not bothered about the result.
Nisha, nurse profession is perfectly alright.
Swapna, she is asking what will the dropping out look like for me? I think you only have to create how it should look like.
Yoga nidra waking, Vishnu to kill madhukaitaba, durga’s manifestation…to kill mahishasur, shumbh, nishumbh, …whatever I spoke it explains the whole thing. Actually the guys who have a sashtra background can see everything falling into place. Madhukaitaba is nothing but tamas; sleeping, continuously sleeping.
When you don’t feel the desire to take care of man as your child does it mean you are running from true responsibility you should be carrying? I don’t want to say it is running away from responsibility. If you are not feeling that is perfectly alright; nothing wrong.
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