“Now, let us start how to clean state, how to remove the clutching with…”
Now, let us start how to clean state, how to remove the clutching with your thought patterns, how to remove the identification with your thought patterns. He is talking in the second 33, in the next language. Now starts all the theories, philosophies or different, different ideas. Sutra five:
Vritta Yah panchatayyah klista aklistah
It is a wonderful Sutra. Vritta Yah panchatayya tayyah klista aklistah. Let Me translate. The modifications of the mind are five. They can be either a source of anguish or of non-anguish. They can be source of suffering or joy. He says… now He is coming to theories. He says the mental pattern is fivefold. The modifications of the mind are five. The fivefold thought patterns result in the alteration of anguish or of non-anguish, suffering or peace. He is coming down. He is expressing a little different theory, little different theory. He says mind is…. mind consists of fivefold thought patterns. Now He is agreeing to your level. When you say, “No, no, no. This is there, that is there, that is there. Clean it.”
Many time people come to Me and say, “Swamiji, I have all these problem. Which meditation I should practice?” I tell them, “You yourself have diagnosed or you want Me to diagnose you?” Very rarely people surrendering. “No, no Swamiji. You diagnose and tell me what should I do.” Then I tell them, “You are on the right track.” If you yourself have diagnosed, then nothing can be done. Even if I say, “This problem doesn't exist, please just come out. This simple technique is enough,” you say, “No, no, no. You don't know. Only I know. Only I know.” Big problem and they have a set of ideas. They have set of ideas. They say, “No, I have this problem, I have that problem, I have that problem I have that problem. You don’t know. Few years ago, I used to have outbursts. Now it is not there regularly but once in a while I get.” How they developed theories and very difficult.
The most difficult thing in the path of enlightenment is making the person trust that he is qualified for Enlightenment. Nothing else is so difficult. Making him renounce the world, renounce the name and fame, renounce the power, prestige, all these things are not big job at all because that gives so much of torture. Naturally people renounce. Naturally people throw that. That is not a big problem at all. All you need is making them understand. They renounce, they throw it away. Anything is very easy, but very difficult thing is, making them understand they are qualified for experience. They are qualified for truth. That is the worst thing. Somehow, you get into the mood, “No way. At least not in this life, at least not in this life.”
We have an idea of... weird ideas about sin, karma, wounds, engrams, very weird ideas, very primitive ideas about all these things. So with all that ideas, we continue to suffer. We create constant struggle. We create constant struggle. Now Patanjali says, “All right, at least let me try to balance. Let me take care that feeling connection doesn't get disturbed, dropped. So if the feeling connection is there at least I can lift that guy tomorrow. At least tomorrow or day after tomorrow he can be lifted. If the feeling connection is also missing he can never be lifted.” It is like a… you throw a rope. If you don't come up, at least I come down holding on, waiting the rope… holding the rope, waiting for you. So, Patanjali is doing that job. He agrees, “Yes, the fivefold thought patterns result in the the alteration of suffering or joy.”
Please understand, just because He is uttering these words, don't think it is truth. He is just compromising. He is compromising. Even now, if I am given a choice, if I am allowed to say, I will say He is compromising. He is just telling you, “Okay, what can be done? At least listen to this. At least listen to this.” I can say, the second level teaching. The second level teaching. See, the mass is always mediocre. They can't straightaway catch the truth. They need more words, words, words, words words, beating around the bush. Then they think, “Oh! yes yes yes.”
People, I have seen always, if the book is too big, they think, “This is very valuable. It is very valuable.” Even in our own gallery I have seen, the big book sells. The small books, straight away I give you simple truths. People, “No no no no. This book, yes, looks like message of Swamiji. I can read, read, read read, re-read forever!”.... When you have lot of material, their ego feels satisfied and you feel you have achieved something. You achieved something and you have got something worthy for your money. No really, that is what you feel. That is what here Patanjali is trying to do. The five fold thought patterns, the modifications of the mind are five. They can be either a source of anguish or of non-anguish.
There is a beautiful incident. Bernard Shaw, he wrote a book of hundred page. Somebody asked him, “What happened? Just a hundred page?” He says, “I don't have time. If I had time, I would have reduced it. I would have written only forty page or thirty page. I don't have time.” Please understand the paradox. He says, “I don't have time. That is why I wrote hundred page. If I had time, I would have written only forty page. I would have reduced, reduced, reduced, refined.” Only when you don't have that much of patience, time or energy, you go on elaborating. Go on elaborating.
I know, Patanjali had intelligence, no doubt but the disciples did not have intelligence. The disciples, I know what would have been the scene when Patanjali says, “Mind is not a thing. It is an action. Just stop it.” He would have been about to get up and disciples said, “No, no, no. No, no, that is not the thing. I have tried many years. I had been with some other gurus, some other teachers, some other masters. I had been to this class, that class, this, that.” Then Patanjali says, “Alright.” He would have sat back, started the next session, “The fivefold thought patterns result in the alteration of suffering or joy.” Then people, “Ha yes, now he talks. See, now we are able to connect.” Five different fold, five different things happening inside. The result in the alteration of… which results in the alteration of suffering or joy. He is trying to give you more words.
Let Me tell you an honest truth. All the answers are only diverting you from the question, never attending the question including the answers I give. It’s only diverting you from the question because no question can be answered. There is no question which can be answered. For example, you ask, “What is worry?” I say, “The continuous thoughts which goes on inside you, the inner chatter is worry.” What have you understood? At least I have not understood. When you have more words, now you are tired to think further. He act, “Yes, yes, I understood, I understood. Relax, relax. Let us go to the next subject.” Otherwise what do you know about that? Continuous thoughts or inner chattering which is disturbing. All these are different, different, different words.
When familiar words are uttered to explain unfamiliar words, you understand that as an answer. That's all. When I utter some familiar words which you think you know already, as a response to the question of the unfamiliar words which you think you don't know, you think I have answered your question. That's all. Otherwise, there is no question which can be answered. There is no question, no answer. Both are game. You act as if you are asking. I am acting as if I am answering. Just both of us are enjoying our company, that's all, each other's company. Nothing else! Then directly we can enjoy. Why this game? That is the truth. That is the real truth.
Without knowing this truth, we are continuously playing the game. We are going on playing. When you know this game, you realise you don't need this game and start sitting in silence just in the presence. Till then, the game has to happen, happen, happen continuously. It has to go on and on and on: asking questions, answers and different questions. Actually any answer will create further ten questions. Answering is a technique of creating a continuous job. See understand, whenever I answer questions, I am creating continuous questions so that I will have job security. That’s what is happening. Any answer will create more questions in you. Nothing can be done. Nothing can be done. That is the nature of words. Whenever words are used, this is the way it will happen, it will be happening.
So, Patanjali starts the next level teaching: The fivefold thought patterns result in the alteration of suffering and joy. Then immediately you accept, “Yes see, I have suffering and joy. He also agrees. I think I can listen to him. He is a intelligent guy.” Now a bridge is created. A kind of bridge, feeling connection is created. He knows about my suffering. If he straight away tells, “Mind is not a thing. It is an action. Stop it.” you think, “No, no, no, no, no. He doesn't know about me.” He doesn’t know about you. You think he is not sympathizing with you. You are not… see, we don't want best things. We want things with which we can relate, that's all.
Please Understand, actually in our life, we don't want best things, whether it is a relationship or things or anything. Don't think we have desire for best thing. No. You have desire only to things with which you can relate. That's all. You want to be very comfortable with your mental setup. It is not that you want only best things. If you want only best things, naturally the moment you see the Master, you will drop everything and go behind him. One side you have the desire. Then you understand, “No, no, no. Let me have the things with which I can relate, I can fight or I can resist, I can love, I can fight, I can play. Master is too big thing. I know it is ultimate thing to have in the life but I cannot play with it. I cannot relate with it. I cannot fight with it. I cannot have it. So, when I cannot possess it, why to go behind it?”
With the truth also you have the same game. With the first three statements of Patanjali, if you had the connection, you know you are a seeker. I know you are a seeker. You want truth but when the click does not happen, when you are resisting, when you are not interested to have the connection, now we want the things with which we can play the game, we can continue to manipulate, we can continue to play with, we can continue to have entertainment. We don't want solution. We want support. Here Patanjali is trying to give support. It’s like diluting the medicine.
He says the young age I have seen the villages. In Bharatn villages, the mothers will give neem leaf. They will nicely grind the neem leaf and give as a ball. When these kids don't want to take that, they will put a sugar coat on it. They will feed. So Patanjali is trying to do that. “Alright, at least let me put sugar coat on the truth and share with it. Let's see whether people are taking it or not.” The fivefold thought patterns result in the alteration of suffering and joy. He is just using different words to give an idea as if what you feel also is true so that you feel he is sympathizing you, you can connect with him, this master can help you, this master can help you. He can take you beyond now so that you continue to hold onto him, continue to be connected to him, continue to have that feeling connection.
Let’s go to the next Sutra. Here, the next Sutra, sixth Sutra, Patanjali is explaining that five modifications of the mind: pramana, viparyaya, vikalpa, nidra, smrutayah. The translation is: Right knowledge, wrong knowledge, imagination, sleep and memory. These are the five modifications which may lead to suffering or joy, anguish or non-anguish. Please understand, five modifications: Right knowledge, wrong knowledge, imagination, sleep and memory. Let us understand one by one. He is a real master. He is a real master even in the second level teaching, he is not using his truth. He might have put the sugar coat but he is not reducing the strength of the medicine. That is the mastery you need.
How much ever you compromise and try to relate with the disciple, the undercurrent what needs to be transmitted should continue to happen, should continue to happen. So here, Patanjali is doing that job very beautifully. He says, right knowledge. First thing he says which can lead to suffering or joy, first thing is right knowledge. You may think…. Right knowledge is also a binding, He says. Yes, it is binding. Many time, even though it is right knowledge, even then it’s a mind. Even though it is right knowledge it is a mind. Going beyond right knowledge and wrong knowledge, that is Enlightenment. Even the right knowledge is bondage.
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