“I am confused about context hmm in which we can apply this truth about…”

I am confused about context hmm in which we can apply this truth about illusions that you mentioned. For example: are all physical health problems illusion of the mind? If I wake up with a neck pain, sprain, is the pain illusion? Who put the question? YOUR WAKING UP FROM THE BED IS ILLUSION. See you waking up with a neck pain or sprain that is illusion is secondary. You waking up from bed itself is illusion. In the sleep itself there is a level. If it is a 10 frequency sleep you call it deep sleep. If it is a 15 frequency you can it as a dream. If it 20 you call it as a waking state. One more thing, if is 70, only then you call it as a awakened state or something like that. One important thing even in this waking state, between 20 and 70, you are all in different frequency. Understand you are all in different frequency. Don’t think all of you here are waking state of same waking state. No. Some are in the waking state of 20, margin waking state any moment you will slip to dream.

10 frequency... 20 ...... 5, this is what you call as a deep sleep.... dream.... this is a... below - deep sleep, this is dream, this is waking state. And this 70 is awakened. One more thing, be very clear, just for understanding I am creating. This doesn’t have any meter. Some fool I heard he is having a meter to measure the Enlightenment. I don’t think it is possible. Just to make you understand I am creating this column....not clear 2:25. In the waking state itself it’s not that all are in the same 20. Some may be in 50, some may be in 60, some may be in 40, some may be in 30, some may be between the 19 and ½ or 10 and ½. Any moment they will fall into dream. Now so many are there in that state. Any moment you will fall, slip into it.

So be very clear even your waking... and one more thing, every day you don’t wake up in the same frequency. Whenever you wake up and have the body pain the frequency is very low. When you wake up and the whole body is just fresh and alive the frequency is high. So do not connect yesterdays waking up and day before yesterdays waking up and 10 days before waking up and create a shaft about your waking up. Again it’s a one more illusion; it’s a one more illusion. Your pain is an illusion first thing; whenever you have some pain you will be connecting that pain with earlier experience. Ten years ago you would have had the same feeling in that spot, 11 years ago you would have had the same feeling in that spot, 9 years ago you would have had the same feeling in that spot, now you are having the same feeling; but each feeling is independent. When you create the idea it is the same feeling you name that as pain. And then you start thinking I have pain now here.

Whatever happens inside body just look into it as it is. Do not name that as pain. See, it is unconnected some things are going on. Let me see what is going on. Simply you will see the pain will not be there. Don’t come and tell Me, “Pain disappeared Swamiji; You gave this meditation technique, pain got healed.” It is not technique to heal the pain. I am telling the truth. Don’t give this as a technique. Again you will get one more illusion -‘this technique heals the pain’. Cut the very root of the pain... where you experience the painless Being. Don’t use this as a technique for pain. That’s what we did pain to miss technique..........4:56....... Don’t use this as a technique.

Understand the moment you penetrate one pain with a clarity of unconnected mind, with the clarity of your thoughtless or unconnected Being, you will never have any pains any more. Because you know you are just unclutched Being there is nothing to connect and see. Naturally you will really wake up. Yesterday your waking up and day before yesterday your waking up and today your waking up is not same. It is not same. But you connect and see it is same. That creates trouble, creates an idea.

Question: In the case of young children with genetic disorders how is the illusion of disorder created?

From the birth they create, they bring their karmas. They create that idea and bring it; express it through their body.

One more thing... if you strongly understand this moment and break it, your body will become new body. But till you understand completely that you are unclutched, the same shaft will be... its like a you switch off the fan, two three minutes it will be taking it to stop. That process... so the kids, they bring the karma. Even if they realise, it takes few days to transform.

Is kundalini raising a symptom of dropping beyond mind or a symptom of connected thoughts, fantasy and maya?

As long as you are experiencing something away from you it is a fantasy and maya. If it is above the experience, it is not fantasy and maya; it is pure. You should not have three things experiencer, experience and experienced. If the three things are there it is fantasy and maya. Be very clear if there is no experience, experiencer, experienced, then what is going on is a kundalini rising, Enlightenment. If there is an experiencer, experience and experienced its illusion and fantasy - maya. That is why I never give importance to the experiences.

When you said it is not you who healed that heal, that is an illusion. Thoughts creates illusion I understand that it is Truth for human beings. But what happens on the animals on the planet earth.... plants, animal or plants when you heal them? They have no same system of thoughts as us. Ananda Parama...

Never think you are more intelligent than animals and plants. They also have the same setup which you are having. They do collect information from other plants... connect and see. They do spread news; they do spread and receive informations. They too have news papers. They may not treat human being as (8:35) newspapers out of our skin... just like we do. We kill them - trees and make newspapers out of their skin. They may not treat human being and make our skin as news paper, but they do have news paper, they do have relaying system, they do have satellite, they do spread information among themself in their language.

If everything is illusion then what is life?

What you don’t know what is beyond illusion is life. Understand everything is illusion you will realize what is life.

Pain and bliss are one if we do not connect

They are not even one... because the idea of one you will create one more connection. They are neither two nor one. Non dualistic... they are not monistic. The word monistic means one. Even the idea of one can exist as long as there is two. When there is no two how can you even call it as one? See there is a big river. One stick is floating. As long as that stick is there you can say two rivers; two side of the rivers. When that stick is lifted can you say one side of the river? NO. You can’t even say one side. There is no side. There is no side.

Astrology, fate, miracle all are them not true. Is it only concepts?

Your very life is a concept. What are you talking about astrology? What is there in astrology? They say when will you get married. Your very marriage is foolishness. People come and ask me, “Swamiji, bless me to get married.” I tell them, “Fellow if I bless now you will be constantly running behind My blessings for next, next problems. At least if I don’t bless you now, you will have less problem, less you will come to me for blessings.” Now with one blessing I will create a big potential customer for me; who will be constantly behind me for blessings. What to do? Anyhow these fellows don’t understand. I tell them whatever God wants let Him do. I never bless for marriage because it’s a trust. I can’t trust people. After all I am enlightened person I can’t trust, I never trust .......11:05........ Whenever they come, inside mind I tell, “All right whatever good let it happen.”

If we are accustomed to connect the thoughts, then at least from this moment onwards how to practice not to connect thoughts?

Idiot, who is the questioner? Oh God! Why should you practice? You are already not connecting! Only ‘connecting’ you are practicing; just drop. And understand “I will not connect” over. If mind again connects don’t even bother you are connecting and seeing. Even your idea I am connecting and seeing is because you connected and seeing; that’s a one more connecting and seeing. Don’t do that. Ten times you connected and saw now you are eleventh time connecting and seeing. That’s why you are saying I am connecting and seeing. Don’t even bother you are connecting and seeing. If the connection happens let it happen. Do not bother about connecting the seen

If nothing is in control, then why are we struggling, fighting in our life?

Because you think still things are in control, you can change it. Because you think you can change it, you struggle and suffer, fight. Try to convince one single idea to your wife then you will understand ☺ If you are intelligent, from the beginning you know that you can’t convince and drop and relax. And if you are fool you will struggle, struggle, struggle, suffer finally at the end of the day you will understand; that’s all.

If nothing is in our hand what is the purpose of born and living in this world?

There is no purpose. The whole thing is just happening. Understand ....when (12:58)...then you will understand suddenly the real book. See, there is no purpose in the life but there is a meaning of this life. You will understand the meaning when you understand there is no purpose. Purpose is goal, meaning is path. Purpose is future meaning is present. When you understand there is no purpose you will understand the meaning.

Whether thoughts be stopped and start or permanently stopped?

It can neither be stopped nor be started or permanently stopping or permanently running nothing can be done by you. Nothing can be done by you. You can do only one thing - you can understand you are not thinking, thinking is just few connection. By very nature you are renouncing and liberate yourself or continue suffer.

I am waiting for thoughts to act. How to overcome it? When I force and stop the thoughts I am going blank. I can’t be able to act why?

Neither force on thoughts stop nor wait for thoughts to become act both are see if is a painful thoughts you try to stop, if it is blissful thought you wanted that to become act ....both are just connecting and seeing. Relax from both

In what way thoughts are useful to us?

No way it is useful to you. And your idea of use and useful is just one more thought. Who is the questioner? Yes.

......maintain the bliss requires constant renouncing and staying in the now. ......... during the following 9 months after enlightenment

Be very clear, as long as you understand you have to maintain the bliss you can never be enlightened. The moment you drop, you are not even bothered to maintain the bliss; the bliss maintains you. As long as you wanted to maintain the bliss you will be in suffering. Choicelessness only bliss happens to you. If you choose the bliss, again you will choose only suffering. All choice is suffering. When you don’t even bother about bliss it just happens to you.

What happened in 9 months?

9 months nothing happened. I was just there without talking about the bliss. The initial level when you don’t bother about mind, body will not function. After sometime, body will settle down. Even without bothering about the mind, body will just flow like a air, hollow bamboo. For that period only it took 9 months for me. I stopped bothering about mind. So body stopped working. Because for last 21 years my mind was trained, my body was trained to work with the mind. Suddenly when I stopped one mechanism.... I did not bother about one mechanism, body has to stop working. It lost. That after 9 months the body has to learn the new technique, technology of working without the mind. Then body started flowing by itself. That’s what has happened in that 9 months. That’s what I am trying to do in these 15 days for all of you.

Swamiji, you are part of my Being. Is that independent thought or connecting thought?

As long as you think I am part of your being I am not part of your being... be very clear. Your concept about Me only is part of your Being. If you are thinking I am loving you, I am caring for you, I am hating you or I am ignoring you - all these things are just purely your illusions. You will not see anybody in this chair. If you just see emptiness in this chair you have seen me. If you just see nothing, not even nothing, just nothing of nothing, then you have seen me. Everything else is a pure illusion.

How do we drop to the core beyond mind? Who is the questioner?

Again you missed. There is no how... Just understand whatever is going on is from your source.

Participant: Swami it’s very hard to .......... chose to be here. Choosing is suffering. I chose and choosing Enlightenment.

Swamiji: Be very clear that is what is the suffering. Now, be very clear, you can’t have Enlightenment by your struggling... let you be very clear, by your struggles. Be very clear I cannot give you. If I can give you long before I would have started a shop... long before I would have started a shop. I would have made a store: “Here at ....................... quickly enlightenment will be given. In other shops they sell it for higher price. I will give in discount price.” I would have started a shop. I can’t give you, be very clear. Nobody can give you. Anybody who says they can give you, they are doing the holy business; that’s all. Pure business!

Choosing Enlightenment is ultimate suffering. You are already Enlightened. Be very clear, already your thoughts are just completely unconnected. What you think as Enlightenment... Enlightenment means no mind state. Already you can’t have mind because every thought automatically leaves you. No thought can stay with you; even if you wanted to hold them. You see, you wanted to hold the thoughts of bliss. Are they staying with you? They just kick you. They run away from you. They are not staying with you. By your nature you are renouncing thoughts. And if you try to stay with suffering for a long time can you stay? No. Automatically it will come down and settle down and relax. They are also kicking you ....19:35...... whether pain or bliss constantly you renounce. You are just flowing this way and that way. When you understand that suddenly you drop from this drama. Suddenly you understand “All right this is what is happening let it happen. If it is a pain let it be pain, if it is bliss let it be bliss.” Whatever is happening let it happen. The mind is connecting and seeing, let it connect and see, if it doesn’t connect and see, let it not connect and see, over. Just be ....just be. It is not even meditation. I am not giving you one more technique. Just be; nothing needs to be done.

Next... long questions... from a professional seeker Ma Nithya Anupama. ☺ How can I drop the idea “I am connecting thoughts” when it is not in my control?

Who asked you to drop the idea you have connecting thoughts. Just have thoughts okay. If you are connecting thoughts - its okay, if you are not connecting thoughts - it’s okay; over. Do not think you are connecting and connecting. Only thing, “oh I am constantly connecting thoughts and seeing.”- That’s one more connection which creates problem to you. Sometimes you connect and see sometimes you don’t connect and see.

Who is creating thoughts?

That you cannot know, only you can experience.

What are thoughts – words, language?

It is words, language, everything.

When you say “understand this”, is it really up to me to understand or not?

Yes, that is up to you.

Both these ideas are also illusions like all ness?

Yes. They are illusion; but because you are carrying the illusion that you have not understood, you can catch the illusion that you have understood and both will drop by itself. The illusion that you understood will just leave you by itself.

And if I do not exist in reality then who is to understand?

When you understand only, you will understand that you do not exist in reality. Till then you will be thinking that you are existent. Only when you understand, you will understand you do not exist.

What’s the source and if the source already knows this Truth where did the complication begin?

There is no complication. Complications never begin. Your connecting and seeing that complication has begun - is only beginning. There was no beginning. Just now understand there is no complication. What is there? Nothing to be done. Earlier I used to connect and see. Now I know I am connecting and seeing. So naturally I am not connected and seeing. If I want, sometime if I want to connect and see let me connect and see; nothing wrong. If I don’t want to connect and see let me not connect and see; that’s all, over. Even you are connecting and seeing unconsciously because you want at that time; otherwise you won’t connect and see. All your connecting and seeing or unconnecting and seeing is because you want at that moment. This moment if you want to connect and see, you connect and see. Next moment if you don’t want to connect and see, you forget about connecting and seeing. Again afterwards, suddenly you want to connect and see, you connect and see. Then you think, “Oh unconsciously I started connecting and seeing. I will start unconnecting and seeing...nothing like that. This moment because you want to connect and see, you connect and see. Next moment because you don’t want to connect and see, you don’t connect and see. Every moment is happening because of your conscious decision. There is no unconsciousness in human beings.

Be very clear. The idea ‘you have unconsciousness’ is pure cheating. Earlier religious people used to cheat human beings saying something is sin and something is merit. In modern day this so called spiritual gurus they replace the sin place; instead of sin they say you are unconscious. Earlier Christians used to tell you are sinners and put you in guilt. The modern day Gurus they start saying you are unconscious and put you in guilt. That's all. Both ideas are pure cheating and exploiting. Neither you are sinner nor you are unconscious. Every moment you are doing what you want to do; you have complete freedom to do.

Understand just sit and close your eyes. Be characterless, be personalityless. Your body to breathe, your heart to beat, your blood to flow, you don’t need personality. Without your personality, your mind, your thoughts, blood can flow inside you. Your heart can beat. Your lungs will function breathing will happen. Let it happen; just see. How a cow breathes ....25:22......... how in an animal the blood flow is happening, how a relaxing animal, when a cow is relaxing how the whole thing is happening inside the cow - without the character, without a personality. Just see; same way it can happen in your body. There is no need for you to exist in your body for these things to happen. Just see how it is happening in your body. Let it happen. Your body is breathing, blood is flowing, your heart is beating; everything is happening. You are not there, you are not needed. The idea which you have about you is not needed. Your character is not needed. Your personality is not needed. Whatever idea you have about yourself – you are a male, you are a rich man or poor man or male or female, you belong to this place and you are working here. No idea is necessary. Your body is functioning. Just drop your post, your body is functioning. For your body to move, function, no need for your personality. See just like an animal your body is inhaling and exhaling by itself, your heart is beating by itself, blood is flowing automatically. Just you are not there; that’s all.