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20 August 2004

“Let us analyse, what is the most mysterious thing in the world, what is…”

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Let us analyse, what is the most mysterious thing in the world, what is the greatest, surprising thing or mysterious thing in the world. You can come up, some of your answers, hm.

[00:00:17] Somebody in audience says :” God” Swamiji: God? Then? Somebody in audience says.”Humans?” Swamiji: Humans? Then? Hm? Somebody in audience says:”Chambers” Swamiji: Birth? Then? Somebody in audience says:”Universe” Swamiji : Universe? Somebody in audience says :”Outerspace” Swamiji : Outerspace? Then? Somebody in audience says:” Life” Swamiji : Life? Then? Audience:” Swamiji...humans..” [00:laughter] Somebody in audience says :”Death” Swamiji : Death?Hm.. Then? Somebody in audience say .”Old creation” Swamiji : Old creation? Hm.. Somebody in audience says :” Soul… consciousness” Swamiji : Soul, consciousness..hm?

[00:01:19] Each one has got their own answers.

[00:01:24] Five thousand years ago, the same question was put to a great man called Yudishtra Raja. Hero of the Bharatn epic, “Mahabharata”. One of the greatest, epic, ever done in, the planet Earth. Mahabharata. The hero of that epic is called Yudishtra Raja, a great king. The same question was put to him by a demon, the demigod, He asks him?

In Sanskrit: ” Kima Ascharyam Idam param”?

[00:02: 10] What is the greatest surprising thing, on this planet Earth? What is the mysterious thing most mysterious thing on the planet Earth. Yudishtra gives, beautiful reply, which is sanskrit shloka. I’ll give you that sanskrit shloka, and then give the over all being.

[00:02:41] Sanskrit Shloka…….Agan Agani Bhutani Ghachyanti Girimamandriam, Shashas sthir mchandim, Kim Ascharyam Atham param.

[00:02:53] Means, every day, so many lives are going to a mass abode, the deaths abode. to the deaths house, but the people who are staying here, they think, they are going to be here eternally. They think they are never going to die. This is the greatest surprising thing for me, on this planet earth. After seeing every day, so many people dying, so many deaths happening, again people continuously believe, feel and live with the idea that we are not going to die, and life is not going to end. For us it is not. We always think, only somebody else is going to get into the accident. We always think only, somebody else is going to die.

[00:04:04] This the greatest mystery, death. Death is the greatest mystery, mystery of all the mysteries. God is a vague word. God is not a clear experience in your life. God is just a vague concept, ‘til you become enlightened. Even the idea of God originated, idea of God is created after the question: “What happens after death?” and this question was raised. Many people try to give a answer to this question, in their own way. Many have tried to answer this question, so somebody who wants to answer. Some people created theories, some people created philosophies. Few people created religions. Even the idea of God is created by the people who tried to answer this question:”What happens after death?”

[00:05:35] This is the most mysterious question according to me. From the time immemorial, so many persons again, and again, and again trying to answer this question. Every person who tried to answer this question created a new religion, new cult, new sect. All the religions are born out of this one question, ”What happens after, death?” What is actually happening at the time of death?

[00:06:16] Almost all the religions, are born, out of this one question, ”What happens after death? What is death?” That is the most mysterious thing. Many people try to give many different kind of answers. Many different understandings. Some say, there are so many births, some say there is only one birth. Some of them have the idea: ”Why should we bothered at all Swamiji, forget about it? When it comes, let us face. Why should we even think of death?”

[00:07:13] Let me answer this question first. Why should we even analyse, understand, think about death? Because your idea, your understanding, about death is going to change your understanding about the life. Please be very clear, your understanding about the death, is going to change your understanding about, life.

[00:07:44] You can see the religions which believes, there is only one life. They created a deep sense of hurring everything, anxiety, in man. All the Western religions, they believe only one life. That is why they wanted to take maximum juice out of this life. You have to enjoy, Whatever you want to enjoy in this seventy years span. You can’t miss. If you miss, you miss it. So, you are not allowed to rest, to relax. Continuously, you have to finish what you want to finish. The idea of only one birth, gave birth to science. That is why, you start working, searching, for all comforts, maximum possible comforts, maximum possible joy, maximum possible juice from the outerworld.

[00:08:57] Second thing, all the Eastern religions, they speak about many births. This idea gave birth to spirituality, When you have an idea, so many births. When you understand there are so many births again and again, and again you come down and go back. you feel bored, fed up, same drama. You come down, this time you catch somebody, as a husband, somebody as a brother, somebody as a son, somebody as a neighbour, somebody as a enemy. You big, created big setup, with which you live. The moment you die, you go to the next body, again you create, one full setup. It goes on, goes on, goes on.

[00:10:04] After sometime, you feel bored. You’re totally fed up. How many times coming down and doing the same drama, again going back, again coming down. You start thinking, towards getting liberated; No more coming back. The moment you start thinking about liberation, no more coming back, you start, working towards Moksha, or enlightenment. That is what is the whole spirituality.

[00:10:44] You are understanding about death, plays a major role about your understanding about the life. You are understanding about death plays a major role under concept or understanding about life also. According to me it is your concept about death, based on which you really live. Only based on that you really, live.

[00:11:20] Now, let us enter into this mystery of mysteries. The most mysterious theme of the life, which we need to understand. Really, in our life there is a beautiful Zen saying: “learning the art of dying, is the real thing, or the ultimate thing which you can learn in your life. Preparing and learning, for the right beautiful death, is the real thing which you can achieve, when you live.”

[00:12:14] A small Zen story. One day enlighten Master suddenly declared that he is going to die, around morning, si...next day morning around six o’clock. Of Course enlighten people always know about their death, they declare before, and when they are going to die. He declared, around morning six o’clock he’s going to die. The beauty is his disciples, they said, “No no no no no, Swamiji, please wait for two three more hours, because it will be too cold, early morning. Why don’t you wait for few hours, so that we can prepare for your body getting burned or whatever all the last rituals.” He said, “Alright, what is there.” He said, “Okay.” And told the disciples that he will pass away around twelve o’clock. When exactly clock struck twelve, he greeted them all, and hands dropped by themself. He left the body. I want you to know about small but very important incident.

[00:13:45] When British people, while bringing the whole Bharat under their control, in the Central Bharat, there is a small tribal village, now the village is not there, there was one small tribal village. The British was, the British was trying to bring that village to under their control. The whole village is only, totally hundred people, but highly, mystical people, mystical means totally into devotee, into meditation, and who knows the esoteric arts. It is said that, in that village, people never felt sick, and not only that. Even if they dreamed as if they hurt somebody in their dream, next day morning they will go and apologise the person.

[00:14:59] There’s a record about that village. Tonight if they dream that they hurt somebody in their dreams. Next day morning they will go and apologize him, ”Please forgive me, I’ve hurt you in you iin my dreams.” The explanation is, unless you have a settled vengeance, unless you have a subconscious idea to hurt him, you will not even hurt in the dreams. So, they want they wont even want that, unconscious vengeance, that is why they go and ask you to apologies.

[00:15:40] Such a highly mature spiritual group, they, they’re nothing of their outerworld, but they had everything of the innerworld. This British people when they try to catch that village, the villagers are not ready to surrender, give their freedom to anybody else. But this British people said, “Either you come to our lifestyle or we will kill you.” You will be surprised. This guys, the villagers, they said, “You don’t have to kill us, don’t worry, we know art of dying, we will die by ourself.”

[00:16:25] British people thought they will commit suicide, the villagers will commit suicide, by some medicine, or some method. You’ll be shocked, there is a clear record, the whole village is this;gathered in one group, in, center of the village, as a group. they all stood. the whole group, stood in one place. In front of the eyes of the British soldiers, just, they chanted some mantra, prayed, and all the hundred just felled and died. All the hundred, they simply fell, they just dropped, their body and died. And the incident is recorded by the British soldiers, and they say, “First time we felt guilty of killing somebody. We people are trained to kill. We never felt guilt, when we, when we kill people, even in, the wars. But here we felt a deep guilt, that we killed innocent people, killed, such a simple people, such a great people.” The record says, “We feel...we feel deeply guilt.”

[00:17:57] What we need to understand, the art of dying, simply they were able to drop the body and go. Gita says, “Death is nothing but changing the coat. Learning how to die, is the one and only important art, which you are supposed to learn when you live. Because, art of dying will teach you, art of living also.”

[00:18:41] Now let us look into the mystery of death, which is the greatest mystery. Can anybody speak about death. There is a proverb in Tamil: ”Nobody can speak because was seen as never come back, was come back as never seen. So, unless you see you can’t speak. but the man who, seen, never comes back. Nobody else can speak about death except enlightenment men. Enlightened man is authorised because he is already dead, he is underwent near death experience. Unless you undergo the death experience, you can never become liberated, you can never become enlightened. Except enlightened man, nobody else can speak about death.

[00:19:44] One more thing, the mysteries of death, can never be recorded and logically proved. It can never be reduced to a fact and figure because, it is such a personal experience. Only, few enlighten Masters were able to speak, their experience. The problem , they don’t have, certificate, God never gives, certificate, “Here by, I declare he, is graduated in my enlightenment industry,or in my enlightenment university.” God never does it.

[00:20:25] Anyhow, only few, people, who experienced, shares their view, and who, really, felt the energy of the Master, only they take advantage of that science. that is why, the mystery of death is unknown to so many thousands of people, and I tell you, this science can transform your whole life. Because we have not understood this simple mystery, we are missing so many things in the real life.

[00:21:06] One important thing. The main thing why, this mystery of mystery, the secret of death, is not became popular in West, because it cannot be proved scientifically. Ofcourse now, there’s a lot of research going on about this NDE, near death experience. Thousands and thousands of peoples, near death experiences are getting recorded by doctors, and psycho-analysts and hypno-therapists. They are all working on this field. I was seeing the other day about the website, which speaks about near death experiences. They’ve recorded more than ten thousand people's near death experience. More than ten thousand peoples near death experiences have been recorded. And you’ll be sh..you’ll be shocked, you’ll be surprised, almost all the, experiences are falling same tune. Almost all the experiences.

[00:22:28] The famous hypno-therapists, they also tried to hypnotize the human beings, and get their past-life memories. They tried to slowly slowly lead them into their past, slowly into their very death itself, to get the data. what they experience, when they enter into the body and when they leave the body in the past life. Again that’s a wonderful thing, shocking, revealing, surprising informations. Again they are all, matching, falling in tune with what our Upanishads, what our Rishis declare about death.

[00:23:25] So, I think now, science is spreading in West also. Now let me come to the point, directly, all this time is spending around the bush, to prepare you. Because, you need, little bit of mental preparation, to listen to great truths. Now let us directly enter into the idea of death, what happens exactly when you die. What happens exactly when you leave the body.

[00:24:11] From my own experience, let me narrate. I can ensure only one thing, here by I promise what I’m speaking is truth. No other authority can be sighted. No other support can be given, only the experience is, the, solid proof. Anyhow, but I’ll try to quote some of the similar NDEs, near death experiences recorded by hypno-therapists, psycho-analysts, and doctors. The research reports, their conclusions, of the doctors. what their researches say about the experience and what Rishi says about it, and what is my own experience. Of Course all the three is in same tune, so I presented it to you, what happens exactly.

[00:25:21] When you leave the body, you cross seven different spaces, seven different layers, of your being, The physical, pranic, mental, subtle, casual, and spiritual and finally nirvanic. Seven layers of, body, is penetrated, you go through, seven layers, you cross through, the seven different space. First thing, what happens when you leave the body, you undergo tremendous pain. Pain means unimaginable pain. Let me give a small example. If you scra….if you cut your hand, just half inch, how much it pains? you know the small blade of inch, how much of pain you suffer. Six feet your body will be just, your consciousness and your body will be, torned. And imagine, what will be the pain. It’s almost like a ten thousand scorpions biting at the same time.

[00:27:00] You may think, why I am telling all this things. A little bit of meditation, when you are living, can heal and can guide you, at the time of passing away. Before giving the solution, you must know the depth of the problem, unless we know the depth of the problem, we will not go for, solution. When you first move from the physical body, from when you leave, your body will be practically your consciousness will be torned from the body. Such heavy severe pain, that is why, you immediately fall into coma. According to doctors, coma is, automatic mechanism, to make you, not to feel the pain. It’s automatic anesthesia. If the pain becomes too much, you can’t bare, so God has made automatic anesthesia system. The automatic anesthesia system is coma. If the pain is unbearable, if it is too much, you automatically fall into coma. That is why, anybody who dies, first they fall into coma, only then they die. Only Yogis and enlighten Rishis, enlighten Masters, they die directly without falling into coma. Other than enlightened people, Paramahamsa Yogananda is one of the great example. He never fell into, com ,before death, consciously he passed away, he passed away in the sitting posture.

[00:28:42] There are few examples of great Masters who passed away in the sitting posture. Masters except Masters, all of the ordinary persons, they leave the body only by falling into, coma. That is why you fall into coma and die, because of the pain, severe pain. The next, pranic space. In that the fight starts, your desire wants to possess this body, but the time says no. It is time, it is over, you need to go for, next body. Move. So the fight between your desires and the time, happens. Anyhow, only the time wins, the Kala, time only wins, you go to move to the next body. Like this step by step, step by step, step by step, you move into different space, and enter into the next body.

[00:29:52] In three Kshana, you asume next body. Three Kshana, three Kshana means, three moment, is the maximum time, you can stay, without body. I’ll give few understandings about death, than you can put all your questions, I’ll give the replies and give the answers. Because this subject has to be understood more by questioning. I’ll give first my hypothesizes, whatever I’ve experienced. Then you can analyze, you will understand.

[00:30:32] One more important thing you need to understand about this is, as long as you are in this body, this whole world will look in four color. This whole world will look in four color. you’re able to experience it , feel it. It’s like a four dimension, not even four color , four dimension, and you be in Universal studio, then you will understand the 4D, not 3D, nowadays, is 4D thing have come. Any of you experienced 3D means, you’ll have the glass and you can see the whole thing as if it, happening in three dimension. 4D means, along with the movies, along with the sceneries, your chair also will shake. You will have the experience. You will feel as if you are undergoing the experience. If theres ,earthquake in the movie, your chair will also shake, you experience the earthquake.

Now as long as you are attached, this body the whole world is scene, as 4D. The spirituality, meditation, all these things are looking at two color. You think oh, all these things, later on I will take care, what is there. Ah. let it be there. Many people come and ask me, “Swamiji, I already have the plan for weekend, picnic, can you do the course here, in the next weekend. Because they planned for the picnic, they want me to stay here and do the course next week. You see, people have got so much value for their time, but they forget someone elses time is also valuable.

[00:32:24] Anyhow, as long as you are staying in this body, this world will like four color, the picnic, the outworldly things, everything will look like a four color. Spirituality will look like two color, and you think, “Alright what is the meditation after all, we can do it later on, the picnic can..we cannot, miss”. But the moment you leave this body, and start travelling inside, the whole outworldly things will become two color, and the inner worldly things will become four color. All the meditation, all this spiritual stuff, the whole thing will became four color.

[00:33:15] You should understand one thing, as long as you are in this physical body, this whole thing will be look a like important thing. You’ll be continuously running, running, working, doing every possible things to make money, to make your life comfortable. I’ve seen many people coming and telling me, “Swamiji I don’t have time to meditate.” Never say you don’t have time to meditate, tell honestly that, “I don’t give so much of importance to meditation.” Everybody has got only twenty four hours, how can you say, “I don’t have time to meditate. I don’t have time for meditation.” No, never say that. Be very clear at least to yourself, “I can’t give so much priority to meditation. I feel, my work, my all this routine, my money, all this thing are more important for me than the meditation.” Let you be at least clea..clear.

[00:34:21] You can say, “At least I don’t understand that meditation is so important in my life.” Then you are honest. At least let you be honest to yourself. As long as you are attached to this body, this whole thing will look in four color. Only the moment when you leave this body you will understand, which is real four color thing. Then suddenly the whole thing, the world, will become two color, your dollar will not work there. There, dollar is different, this currency will not work there.

[00:35:06] Neither this currency, nor this relationships or the properties or the status, social life, whatever you made. what for you gave all your life. nothing will have value in that space, in that zone. In that zone, only the quality of consciousness is going to have a value. One thing I want to tell you, important thing. Not even your power, powerful is going to come, even your medicine sins will not come there, people think, “Now if I give, give some donation to temple, I may get reward there,” No currency exchange offer is available, in the spiritual world.

[00:36:00] Please understand, there is a sect in particular religion, if you give donation to their er, spiritual institution, they give you that receipt and you are supposed to keep that receipt, when somebody dies. If you are paid, certain amount of the..to the institution, they’ll give you the receipt. When you die, they will keep that receipt with you so that you can take that receipt and show to God.

[00:36:33] Really, the foolishness is happening, please don’t think I’m telling a story, really it is happening. But I tell you there is no money exchange. There is no way to exchange your money, there is no possibility. Even your sins and merits are not going to come along with you there.

[00:36:59] A small story. A driver, bus driver any of have you been to Chennai, any of you lived in Chennai, oh. bus driver from Chennai, if you know, if you lived in Chennai you’ll understand. The bus drivers of Chennai they’ll directly take you to hell, straightway to hell! no, this way that way, no long route, straightway to hell, and Mumbay also, Mumbai taxi drivers. Mumbai taxi and Chennai bus. This guy one Chennai bus driver and one great religious preacher, both of them died one day. They reached pearly gates, Saint Peter was standing, entering the newcomers, First came, the bus driver, Saint Peter asked, “What’s your name and what are you doing?” He said, “My name is Periyes Swami, and I was a bus driver in Chennai.” The list of merit and sins is taken out, Saint Peter saw in his laptop, saw the details, and said, “All right, let you have golden staff, silken robe, first class AC suite, hammock and go and enjoy. Next came the religious preacher, who was preaching all over the world, Saint Peter asked, “What is your name?” This guy said :”My name is Ganaburananda. What were you doing? Preaching religion, all over the world.” Saint Peter took the data, list of merit and sins, and said, “No, you can have only cotton dress, wooden stuff, third class treatment, go.” This guy started shouting, Of course, you know religious preachers are the professional shouters, they are going professional shouting. And he started shouting, “I’ll sue you. Give me, clear answer. How can a bus driver have a first class treatment and me, third class? I was spreading Divine glory all over the world.” Saint Peter said, “Here up in the Heaven, we don’t bothered what you do, we bothered what is the result. Please listen. When he was driving , people all were praying for their lives, So he made many people as believers, when you are preaching, people were all sleeping.

[00:40:15] So, we don’t bother what you do, we bother what is the result.” Of course, if you are sleeping, get up, [00:laughter], otherwise when I go there, they will give me the wooden stuff. There is no exchange offer, up in the Heaven. Your merit and sins are not going to work. Understand, only the way in which you live, the quality of consciousness is going to guide you.

[00:40:52] First thing you should understand, there is no Heaven, Hell, geographically. Geographically there is no Hell, there is no Heaven. It is only totally dependent on your psychological state. If you are happy, blissful, you are in Heaven. If you are suffering, depressed you are in Hell.

[00:41:20] Small story, one more story. One guy died, and reached the gates of Heaven. Saint Peter said. He was a big industrialist. So Saint Peter said, “ What, you want to do? You want to directly going to the Hell, or Heaven, or you want to have a look into both and decide? You have a choice, you can have, look in both side. You can have a few minutes of preview of both, then you can decide.” The guy said, “oh, nowadays you have previews also, I’ll be very happy. Let me first have a preview then we can decide.” This guy is a great industrialist, so he wants to have a choice. He first came to Heaven, was totally silent, only a few Saints sitting on some clouds and singing, “Hallelujah Hallelujah” and moving around. Nothing much to be seen. Very quiet. He said, “Alright let me go to Hell and see how it looks.” There he went, he saw, different kinds of disco is going on. different kinds of life, full fledged pub, and all the great celebrities, dancing, i think they go, go in and eat there. All kinds of people are there and bubbling with life and festival mood, and all celebrities are there. It was really wonderful. This guy said, “I want to choose only Hell, no Heaven.” Saint Peter said, “Please, understand, listen, decide now itself, afterwards you can’t have a choice, he said, “sure, I want to go only to Hell.” Finally, he was sent to Hell. The moment he enter the Hell, simply two demons came and caugth his head, and took him inside, they started torture him in the fire. He started shouting, “What is this? When I came they showed me a different view, now you are torturing me. You are threatening me now showing a different view.” These demons were torturing, they say oh, that is our marketing department.

[00:44:20] So understand, if you believe, there is Hell and Heaven, if you believe, your sins or merits are going to help, you only end up in seeing marketing department. Not the reality. Neither your sins nor your merits are going to help. All the idea of your sin and merit are created by society, for better social life. They are not spiritual laws. Your conscience is not going to help only consciousness is going to help. The idea of right and wrong, is based on conscience. your conscience what, what way you pronounce, conscience or conscience. Your conscience is societal, given by society. But your consciousness is natural. Your being, your energy, your life after death is going to be based on your consciousness not on your conscience.

[00:44:37] The quality of life which you lived, when you say quality of life which you lived, I mean, how intense you have lived. If you are sitting here, if you are aware of your whole being, if you are aware of your whole surroundings, if you are aware of whatever is going on, body and mind, that is what I say consciousness. Your continuous clear witnessing awareness, only that is going to guide you after death, Neither your sin nor your merits.

[00:46:12] Don’t think if you go to temple every day there you’ll get some special allowances. God will be there, He will tell, “No, come, come, come I saw you every day come here, come this side. I’ll do some special things for you.” No, never.

[00:46:35] There is a preacher, he is preaching, in North Bharat. He is very popular in North Bharat, he preaches, “Fast here, you will have all sorts of beautiful goings and rum in the Hell - in the Heaven. Do all the actions which purifies you here. you will have all the joys in the Heaven.” One guy was listening, he said, “O Master, why should we leave all those things here to go and get there, better yet enjoy here itself? that is the thing we’re going to get there, Why not enjoy it here itself? And there is no even guarantee whether they will give there or not. at least here there will be a clear guarantee, and who knows the exact quantity we will get or not, and who is going to serve and who is going to take care we don’t know.” If you think, by living a religious life, pure life here you are going to be rewarded there; never think, never believe. Don’t be religious thinking that you’ll be rewarded there. You‘ll be only, you’ll be only in hopeless state. all your actions are not going to come with you. Whether you enjoyed or renounced, is not going to matter. Once you leave this body. the moment you are out of this physical layer, all your actions will be forgotten. The saint or the sinner, nothing is going to count. Only one thing will be counted - how much consciously with awareness you lived. Of course the thing is, the more you become aware and the conscious of your body and mind, more it becomes your control.

Somebody asked, “Can I…” somebody asked me, “Can I become enlighten by controlling our sex. I said enligten people don’t have sex, that is different but don’t thing by controlling sex you can become enlighten.” Of Course I’m not telling you go around.. Two things, you need to understand. A Buddha is out of sex. An enlightenmen man is out of sex. Jesus is out of sex. Krishna is out of sex.

There is a beautiful incident. Once the Yumana was filled with waterk, the flood was entering in Yamuna and the river ever born Yuman - there was flood. Krishna and Gopi they want to cross the Yumana and they finish all their “Ras Lila”. The biggest flood in the planet earth ever born. After all the Ras Lilla he want to cross and go to his place but, the river is filled with water . Then he says if it true that I’m Bhramchari, let this Yumana open and give way. Immediately Yumana opened and gave way. and this girls were all shocked. Just now this guy did all sorts of things, which nobody can imagine. And he still if I’m Bhramchari let this Yumana open and give way. Yumana also opened and gave way. What is happening?

Then Vyasa write the commentary, Vyasa gave explanation, enlighten master never lives in the body. He is totally out of body. Of Course when a person becomes enlightened he is neither male or female. He lives outer, always beyond body. Enlighten man, man beyond sex bu,t people who are trying to go beyond the sex can all not become enlightenent. Going beyond the sex happens as a byproduct. Side effect of enlightenment. That can not be a technique or method of enlightenment. Enlightenments need something more than suppressing yourself. It needs meditation. It needs transforming your consciousness. So none of your virtue. None of your acts are going to matter after you leave the body.

[00:51:48] There is a small story. One day, there is Rishi in forest. One day a guy came midnight. He ask the rishi, “can I stay here just for tonight? Tomorrow morning I will go away.” Rishi said,” why not, please stay here. You are welcome.” He gave him food and shelter - everything. Next day morning they got up and he was about to leave. When he is about to leave he felt too much love and compassion towards the rishi and he said, “Oh! Swamiji you help me really in a big way by giving me shelter in midnight. Please accept a small offering.” He gave me, he gave little money to the rishi. Rishi said, “where you get so much of wealth. You having so much of money. You are giving me.” He has so much money and gave little bit to rishi. This guy said, “I’m a thief.” Rishi had said, “no, no, no I don’t want your money” he sent him.

[00:53:01] After that rishi was praying to God. “Oh God. Please forgive me I give him food and shelter for thief. How great sin it is. What will I do? How will I remove this sin?” He started weeping profusely, praying to God, begging him to apologize. Suddenly, he heard a voice from the sky. Somebody is weeping profusely. Rishi said, “who is weeping there?” God said I’m only whipping. Rishi ask God, “Why are you weeping?” God replied, “You gave food and shelter only one day and you are weeping. I’m giving everyday should I not weep? Where should I go wash my sins?”

[00:54:00] The real meaning of the story is, the guy, the Rishi has become too egoistic. He started feeling he is worthier than others. Actually God never bothers whose sinners or saints. All these things are just societal. Understand, you are saint only when you are in society. You are sinner only when you are in the society. If you are in the forest, who is sinner? Who is saint? You are saint as long as you have people to worship you.

I have seen many guys in Bharat. In Bharat every street there are there is a saint. There is no street which don’t have a Jagat Guru. Jagat Guru means, the Guru of the Universe. And every street have Jagat Guru, in Bharat. that is why I always tell people they can have at least name street Guru. It will be appropriate. But every street there is one Jagat Guru is there. Every street in Bharat you can see Jagat Gurus. These guys they feel great. They are continuously hunting for followers, disciples. Because the more the numbers of followers. the more they feel they’ve become big. The more people are worshiping you, you feel more you are big saint. Saint is nothing but the idea given to you by your disciples. Sinner is again nothing but a idea given to you by your enemies.

So neither saint nor sinner exist, once you leave this physical body. After leaving the physical body, only one thing is going to matter. How consciously you lived because consciousness is only torch which you are going to cross these seven layers. All these seven space. Neither your wealth will come with you, nor your right or wrong deeds are going to come with you or your other supports. Orl your charity, all your donations, all your dana, nothing is going to come with you. People think here if I give some money to Balaji. There, he will give my gooddaa. It’s exchange. No currency exchange.

Only one thing is going to come with you that is the consciousness with which you lived. The awareness which you created inside your being when you lived. Once you cross these layers naturally, you will see if you have lived your whole life with consciousness with awareness; in a meditative way. You will have a clear choice. Either to take birth or to become enlightened. If you, have not lived your life consciously, if you are deeply tied to your body and mind. If you have never lived with full awareness, immediately you will enter into other body.

Because you can not wait. You can not stay without body. You are so much attached to body. You are so much tied to your body. Your lust for body is so much you will just jump into some other body, whatever body is available. You will not bother. let me first go and enter into the body. They may not bother then later on you decide. You enter into somebody.

If you can live at ease with yourself. When you are leaving with the body, if you can sit with yourself. If you can relax with yourself without having thoughts, that is what I call, ‘’The Power Of Consciousness’’. How to know whether we are living consciously or not. You will be able to sit with yourself without thinking. If you have that capacity you can be sure you have consciousness. But, we people,we can sit with anybody else but we can sit with.. we can never sit with ourselef.

The moment you get some time also, you switch on T.V. tatak.. tatak, tatak.. tatak, tatak.. tatak the same remote and same foolish programs. Or you catch some newspaper from first page to last pag.. last page you start reading.

If you don’t have anything else, you also start planning or thinking. If you can sit with yourself. Utterly relaxed. Even for a moment, you will have that same relaxedness when you leave the body also. That time also you have patience and relax awareness to wait and choose. Important thing you should understand. It is you who program. It is you who design your everybody and including your parents. These are few truths.

Of Course you can question me in the question answer session. Including your parents, it is you who choose.

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