Librate Souls through Maheshwara Puja
(Delegate:) “Nithyanandam”.
(Swamiji:) Go ahead go ahead ma.
(Delegate:) “Swamiji I just wanted to share something, this is not a question. Ah, but I actually went to Badrinath to Brahma Kapala to do the Shradda, to the um to do the pinda tarpana for my ancestors a few years ago. They told me I cannot do it, because I’m a female, and you have to be a male, and you have to be the eldest son in the family. So ah they have a lot of restrictions, so it’s not very easy to do those and I think the Maheshwara Puja, it’s just we sit right here and it just happens. We don’t have to worry about. And nowadays the roads are not even accessible very easily to these places.”
(Swamiji:) No no no,no, no, not only that, you see listen, in that ah, rituals in the thirteenth (1:03), anything related to the dhana women can do, like a godhana, budhana, swaranadhana, vastradhana, annadhana and all. Rituals basically women are not allowed to do in the later ah days of Hinduism. The post-Shankara time, the ritual was, all rituals were banned for women, that is the reason this rule came. But originally in the Upanishads and Vedic period they are records, women doing Shradha and even last rights. There are tons and tons of records and enough of records, and even the shraddha mantra, in shraddha mantra, where the priest has the, the person who is giving shraddha to hold the ah ah rice and the til; he addresses male and female. Please understand, he addresses masculine and feminine. And, there are at least few places, we have enough references and enough of evidence, where women were asked to give shraddha and participate in the rituals. Now what you are saying that ah in Badri it is not happening, it’s just recent times, maybe the last 600, 700 years, the male chauvinistic. That is the reason the shraddha was stopped for women. You guys take this reference and go and do shraddha in Badri and tell them, “My guru is Mahamandaleshwar, He has given this reference, you tell whether this sutra is right or wrong?
(Delegate:) Yes Swamiji
(Swamiji:) Is this sutra original? Is this mantra original?
(Delegate:) Yes.
(Swamiji:) He says, yes, it is original. Then, allow me to do shraddha, that’s all.
(Delegate:) Yes.
(Swamiji:) Mmmm
(Delegate:) Ah Swamiji, ah Pitru, Dosha, Tarapana Puja (3:00), Maheshwara Puja is the same?
(Swamiji:) Yes, it’s one and the same.
(Delegate:) Swami, Swamiji, what if we don’t have any photos or any birth time and the reference….
(Swamiji:) No, I can not do Maheshwara Puja, you have to have either birth chart, or the photo, other without that I won’t be able to offer.
(Delegate:) Swamiji.
(Swamiji:) Go ahead.
(Delegate:) Ah while, while in Kailash, with you, we we did tarpana, what are the...
(Swamiji:) Then I think that is enough.
(Delegate:) That’s enough. Second is, you said there will be relieved of all the... after the Maheshwara Puja, relieved of all the karmas.
(Swamiji:) Mmmm
(Delegate:) I thought it’s only the incompletion.
(Swamiji:) All your Karmas are actually incompletion.
(Delegate:) Even the past life?
(Swamiji:) Yes yes yes yes. Even the need for breathing is an incompletion.
(Delegate:) My my my question is this: in the present life, there is incompletions let's say,
(Swamiji:) Mmm.
(Delegate:) But the karma is also from the previous life with somebody else.
(Swamiji:) In the past life incompletions only you bring it as a karma in the present life also.
(Delegate:) With the same soul?
(Swamiji:) Mmmm, not may not be same souls, but the carrier is the same soul, nah.
(Swamiji:) See, for example, past life you would have had a fight with your husband. This life you may be having a fight with your ah, wife. But, the pattern is same, in as far as the recording inside, as a karma.
(Delegate:) Right but it, it’s like my father, I I might have incompletion which I took care of in Kailash.
(Swamiji:) That’s all, that’s enough.
(Delegate:) Right, but his previous janma, what happens with them?
(Swamiji:) Ah you see, in Kailash when we give shraddha and all, whatever his other baggage he has, that also will melt down. Because we have given it in a elaborate way. Don’t worry.
(Delegate:) Thank you Swamiji.
(Delegate:) Swamiji, ah you said ah 13 day ah within 13 days if you give ah do Shradha, the soul which is born will ah get ah released ah of of all the karmas and suppose ah he has taken ah another birth, and within that 13 days if we do the Maheshwara Puja, ah ah ah he will ah the person ah the person in another body he will get enlightened and leave the body as well or?
(Swamiji:) No, he will leave the body and he will not have karma. He will not take another one body, which means enlightenment.
(Delegate:) Ok, but that ah that life e ah, ah, ah.
(Swamiji:) No, no, no, that body which he has taken itself will be dead.
(Delegate:) Ok.
(Swamiji:) The child will be dead within maybe 4-5 days.
(Delegate:) Even if it’s a healthy baby? The moment you have done your Maheshwara Puja it.
(Swamiji:) So, the milk he drank he will digest for 3-4 days and that’s all.
(Delegate:) How about the incompletions that the the parents have to go through?
(Swamiji:) Each soul is a individual soul and their journey matters. They will have another one kid, that's all. The individual soul’s journey is more important than any relationship related thing. That’s that comes as a first priority. Second only this mmm..
(Delegate:) Swamiji, this is the thing, what happens if the 13 days past?
(Swamiji:) If 13 days is past, I won’t be able to ah liberate that child immediately, the further accumulation of the karma and the incompletions can be reduced. Life will be better without the influence of this load. That’s all. But the immediately the child cannot be liberated and all.
(Delegate:) See something happened you have to do within 13 days.
(Swamiji:) Soul will leave the body, it will not take one more birth. I’ll cut the U-Haul service, not only that, even if, inthe road when I am traveling if a dead body is being taken that’s all. Anything falls into my breathing space, even without knowledge, by accident, means when I am driving, there is an accident in the road, and the body is still there, means over, that fellow is liberated. He can’t have one more body. Because the U-Haul service will be disconnected. My breathing space is such, all U-Haul service will be disconnected. Means the karma carrying, umbilical cord will be disconnected. That cannot survive in my breathing space.
(Delegate:) So Swamiji all the bodies that when we are sitting at Manikarnika Ghat?
(Swamiji:) Wa every ah, whole thing is liberated. Whole thing is liberated. Yes, mmm. All those fellows are liberated.
(Delegate:) At least 40, 50 were there.
(Swamiji:) More than that.
(Delegate:) Swamiji, when I was in Haridwar, there was a sadhu who was on the bridge, and I put some money under his um um coat or his blanket, and I realised that night that he was dying. So I went back the next day, and I I checked on him and he was almost dead. And when I put the mala, I took off my mala and I put it on the top of his head, he shuttered and he died.
(Swamiji:) It is good, it means that you liberated him. You helped him to free.
(Delegate:) Ahhh, good.
(Swamiji:) You you put in connection with me, before he was dead, that‘s good. Go ahead.
(Delegate:) Swamiji ah you said the souls ah even the souls, even ah as long they they are in breathing space, they get liberated. So does that mean it only can happen in your physical presence, around your breathing space.
(Swamiji:) No no no, in my physical presence happens, when I connect with them also that they become they become part of my physical presence.
(Delegate:) Ok, so Swamiji, let’s say ah we have ah deity which has been done Pranabishta or your paduka which represents your your presence there, so if...
(Swamiji:) That will not able to have such a strong radiation over a human being because that being has to connect with it. My case he doesn’t need to connect, I myself can be actively involved with it. A deity will not actively involve, it will only wait passively and whoever comes will be gracing. Markandeya was active. So the person who is dying, if the person is active the deity can do the job. Mm, go ahead.
(Delegate:) Swamiji, If a person does suicide in your physical space then..
(Swamiji:) No. If a person commits suicide, even in my physical presence, I will not be able to help. Because it is a abusal, it’s a, you are fighting against God. When you asked and he gave you the body and you destroying it, is directly fighting against the cosmos. So nobody can help you.
(Delegate:) Swamiji.
(Swamiji:) Nobody can help the person who commits suicide even in my physcial presence. Mm, mm.
(Delegate:) Swamiji, ah when animals assume a new body within 3 seconds, other than human beings.
(Swamiji:) No no no, animals, when they evolve only they assume human body, that also happens in within 3 seconds.
(Delegate:) Swamiji, if the body wants to leave the soul which has been born in a new baby, if you have liberated it, if it still wants to hold on to a body, get a new body
(Swamiji:) No no, it won’t ah, it won’t want to. When the karma baggage is not there, it will feel free and just jump out. Who wants to be inside the body? When there is no karma baggage. Mmm.
(Delegate:) Swamiji, how is then with ah enlightened babies getting born?
(Swamiji:) Mm?
(Delegate:) Babies, enlightened children getting born. Ah they don’t have karma right? So why do they keep their body?
(Swamiji:) No, that is incarnations. It’s not that, mmm, normally all the children are born enlightened, no, no.
(Delegate:) Swamiji, they need karma to retain the body..
(Swamiji:) Yes, yes.
(Delegate:) Swamiji, at the back.
(Swamiji:) Even in our enligh, enPregnancy, we bring a possibility for enlightenment more. Babies themself are not completely enlightened. The possibility for enlightenment is more. They are brought up in such a way that, when they grow up they will become enlightened. That’s not that they’re already enlightened when they assume the body. Mmm. Next.
(Delegate:) Ah, Swamiji, I have already done Maheshwara Puja through Swamiji to my parents, I still want to do one more time, can I do?
(Swamiji:) That’s up to you. You can.
(Delegate:) Thank you.
(Delegate:) Swamiji here.
(Swamiji:) Mm.
(Delegate:) Ah in the presence of ah energized padukas or deity or any object, if the person is leaving the body, can you give, ah, can will they become.
(Swamiji:) See what I am saying no, no, no, no, that that person if he actively connects with me, I can do, but not that eh, his feeling connection doesn’t exist. See, when it happens in my physical presence, that person’s active connection is not required. I’ll do the active job. But in the paduka and all that person has to be actively connecting to it.
(Delegate:) Will it be less painful for that?
(Swamiji:) Surely, not only less painful, even liberation can happen.
(Delegate:) Thank you Swamiji.
(Swamiji:) If that person is actively connecting.
(Delegate:) Thank you.
(Delegate:) Swamiji that children who ah they die within a day or two of their birth, that means are they are getting liberated or they are will be..?
(Swamiji:) Yes, they will get liberated.
(Delegate:) Within 13 days, because as you said that karma baggage is...
(Swamiji:) They won’t have the karma baggage. So immediately liberation only.
(Delegate:) Ok, thank you.
(Delegate:) Swamiji, I wanted to share one experience. Um, when I did my first ah Maheshwara Puja for my dad, um since my dad died about 10-15 years ago, I didn’t do any ah tarpana. That was a deep guilt in me, that I should have done but I didn’t do. Ah, but there was an opportunity to perform the Maheshwara Puja. When I did the Maheshwara Puja and when you put your food in your mouth, I felt that something dropped from me, a huge weight, I physically like ah, it was like a gross feeling that something left me. Ah because I had a doubt also. How could this be liberating my dad and all that I was having, because only three kshanas you need for you to take the next body. Since he died about 15 years ago, how could that happen? And all those things was running in my mind. When I did that, I felt that this was more than what I would ever imagine to do. Thank you Swamiji.
(Swamiji:) Tathastu.
(Delegate:) Swamiji, one more question.
(Swamiji:) Mm.
(Delegate:) Ah, da do the karmic laws affect incarnations the same way as they affect the human beings?
(Swamiji:) No no no.
(Delegate:) So incarnation can never accumulate bad karma?
(Swamiji:) No. It doesn’t touch me.
(Delegate:) Oh.
(Swamiji:) Then?
(Delegate:) I don’t, I’m just asking because some peoples thought that, eh you know you face so much harassment all that it’s not because of bad karma?
(Swamiji:) Now you are also harrassing what we can do? (Delegates laughing) That is not because of my bad karma, I decided to be patient and answer you that’s all. Mm. Mm.
(Delegate:) Um, I have a question about ah in medicine, like ah assisted suicide? Is that like, is that also bad, like?
(Swamiji:) Yes, suicide is bad in every angle. The Vedic tradition, Hinduism does not accept suicide in any form.
(Delegate:) So so even if the person’s like suffering, you shouldn’t, you shouldn’t do that.
(Swamiji:) Even the, see the person should be kept alive with all possible, available, scientific inventions, discoveries as long as possible. Doctors should not do the, that the what euthanasia. Mercy killing, doctors should not do at least for all my disciples I tell you guys, even if you do mercy killing, you will be prosecuted for murder in the cosmos. So never ever do that. Never ever do that. Yes, all doctors please do not, never encourage mercy killing. Never be part of the mercy killing. Don’t even be a passive partner in that mercy killing process. Cosmos records it as a murder. So even if your country law accepts, cosmic law doesn’t accept, so you step aside. You tell them my religion does not agree with this. For religious reason, I will not approve or encourage, be part of it. You be very clear about it, and step aside, it is straight murder. It is straight murder. Mm. Nothing can be done. If somebody is attending attempting suicide, that fellow will be hanging as a ghost forever, till that natural time of ah moving to the next body comes. Accident he will not have suffering because he is not destroyed himself. Mm. Mm.
(Delegate:) I’d like to participate in this Swamiji in the Puja, but I won’t be able to sit on the floor. Is it alright for me to sit on the chair?
(Swamiji:) You see, the shraddha, it’s a ground ritual where the food is supposed to be spread on the floor and offered.
(Delegate:) Oh
(Swamiji:) That is why.
(Delegate:) Oh, ok thank you.
(Swamiji:) Sitting on the floor will be as important as I need a photograph.
(Delegate:) Can I offer the Puja to my husband’s grandparents who I have never met?
(Swamiji:) Whom you never met? Yes yes, you can offer.
(Delegate:) I have two questions, one, is there a Hindu position on organ transplants, lung transplants, heart transplants?
(Swamiji:) Oh, a the Hinduism is very clear it accepts organ transplants.
(Delegate) Ok, second, what about um hospice care? If a patient is dying and wants to take just natural.
(Swamiji:) Hospice care is accepted in Hindu tradition. It is encouraged.
(Delegate:) Ok, thank you.
(Swamiji:) As much as possible the patient should be kept alive..
(Delegate:) Swamiji, how about aborted life? Abortion. Aborted life, is it?
(Swamij:) Aborted life, actually life enters, only when the eh baby is coming out of the mother's womb, in that 3 second only life enters. When the baby tastes this prana, the breathing, the breath of the world, only at that time life enters. So inside the heart beating and all is extension of mother’s heart, mother’s life.
(Delegate:) Thank you.
(Swamij:) In two, in one body, please understand, inside one body two lives cannot exist.
(Delegate:) Swamiji, ah there is a condition of newborn baby where the kidneys are not developed so the lung is also not developed. So the baby is put on the breathing machine support, and ah the whatever 24 to 30 hours the baby was there on the support. So there is not a clear ah, we were unable to see whether even adding a blood pressure support medication for a low bp whether will prolong the baby’s life or not. Because the lung is not developed, so the baby is going downhill on the breathing machine support which is considered maximum for the breathing aspect.
(Swamiji:) So you have done everything best and then baby dies, no problem. But anywhere you have lacked, it is murder. That’s all.
(Delegate:) We were not sure at that time whether even adding the blood pressure support medicine.
(Swamiji:) No, no, no what I am saying. You had certain medical intelligence. With that honestly you supported only life, that’s all. There ends.
(Delegate:) Swamiji one more question. The brainstem death which we certify, um...
(Swamiji:) Even then, the body should be kept as much as possible.
(Delegate:) Ah, because after the group of specialists certified the brainstem death, they actually ah withdraw the breathing machine support and all the medications. So is it considered?
(Swamiji:) Even that should not be done.
(Delegate:) Ok.
(Swamiji:) Till the heart settles by itself.
(Delegate:) Ok.
(Swamiji:) Should be supported.
(Delegate:) So the brainstem death is not considered a natural...
(Swamiji:) No, it's not death.
(Delegate:) Ok, thank you.
(Swamiji:) It’s only a type of a karana sharira, coma, causal coma.
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The talk
- Date
- 20 December 2014
- Place
- Siem Reap, Cambodia
- Type
- Inner Awakening
- Language
- English
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- Published
- 12 September 2020
- Duration
- 20 min
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