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23 November 2009

“The techniques practiced with intensity is spirituality.”

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The Satsang

The techniques practiced with intensity is spirituality.

The techniques practiced without that is religion.

The techniques totally messed up is superstition.

Then talk on Isa Vasya Upanishad

Rig Veda is the first veda, this is the first Upanishad in it.

This statement is the first spiritualstaemetn uttered on the planet earth. This mantra, this Upanishad. When the audio amiplifiers were inveted the gramophone was invented they wanted to demonstrate to the public the fist time. They invite Max Mueller to say a few words so they can chow to the world the nwew invention. He utterd this mantra. He did so much of bad thing to th e world but he said this one good thing. He said this is the oldest spiritual statement utterd on plane tearth. Pleas eunderstnad the vedic vision of wisdom. What we call as knowledge. In the Egyptian, one thought leads to better understanding, next leads to mich better, next thought leads to much better understanding….the whole siccence isi based on this kind of knowledge system. Today what is true as per the scince will be lie tomorrow. Bcos something else will be tru tomorrow. Today they are questioning newton. Steve Hawkins volume..BBrief history of time. He is challenging everybody ynewton, Einstein everybody. Within a year someone else will challenge him. Growing from one idea to another idea…..if something can be lie tomorrow is lie today also. This is one way og knowledge, very useful in the outer world . But in the east, VT, we have totally different idea of knowledge. Conclusion lands on u as experience first. Then if people want if u need to relate with people, u need to develop the conclusion. First conclusion then connecting the normal logic to the conclusion.

First the conlusion then whaen u want to teach others, u mahy need ot develop a syst to conenc tothers logic to ur conclusion nly for that logic is used. L is n ot used to teach thte T. It is used only to help people to reach the truth. That is the big diff. That is why all the Eastern knowledge is called revelations. It is not concluded based on the knowledge. The first spiritual statemtn uttered on PE is the last sp. statement. With this one statemten the whole spiritual R\&D ends.

Poornamada….

That is Infinite

The I procceds form the I

Realising the infinitude of the Infinite, it remains the infinite.

This sutra is technical K and technique. If uclick with this it is an experince also. Tehjr eare 3 calculations. 3 kinds of mathematics. If you have heard of G. Gurdjief – great mystic of modern times. His disciple wrote a book called Tertium organum. In that he says, the third thinking system….he says even before the first two evolve the third existed. When I read I thot what the fool was saying. But only when I read this U I understood. There r 3 ways of coming to c conclusion.

First, Maths….. 2+ 2 \= 4

4 \+ 4 \= 8

Second,

There is a painting . u cannot say the painting is a totality of paint used an the canvas cloth. Something more is there….u cant even say paint, canvas and force used to move the hand. Same force, same paint same canvas cloth can be different paitning! Something else is actually added to it. So the calculation of 2+2 is 4 is wrong in that place. So it is nto totality of just canvas, paint and the force used. Even the same total force, same total paint and same total canvas. SO something else comes into existence. So 2+2=4 does nto work in the next realm of the art. That is why that realm gives udthe deep satisfaiton bcos u feel u r beyond clacln. Whenever u go beyond calculation u feel deep satisfaction. Artist may dies in poverty btut he dies in deep satisfaction. Bcos he bought the next componenet into play in his life. He realized that componenet which cannot be bound by logic or formula----called hridaya in sansrkti. No English term. Judo Christian Heart and this are different.

Hirdaya is the component which is unique in this formula of canvas, paint plus force. I can say plus hridaya is the painting. The H componenet makes the difference. IT is diff for diff people. That makes the art different, the performance diff. The logic of a normal person does not hold godo in the realnm of theheart. T\\

There is a 3rd maths where fulfillment when removed from fulfillment remains as fulfillment. The W moved from the W remains as W.

If u are an artist only then u can understand the hridaya experienetially….that same brush, same paint, same everything does not….Same way when u elevate yourself to the third realm, that is the realm of the being, u wil realsie whatever happens, the W even if its removed from the W remains as W. This W whatever is even whle u think it has become u and the world it has nt become two diffent except ur thinking. Realyy it has not become 2 diff. it remaisn as whole. Bcos it remains as whole only when u become en it becomes one! If it is 2, how can u exp it as one? E is possible bcos it was never lost. Bcos it it is not possible, E cannot be lost. If it possible, it can be lost again. I have to explain it thru words. Cant I just take it out and out it,…

When I utter this sutra, I have a clear visualization. I am trying to reproduce that in you. When I utte this,, the whole death fear fear of li,fe change everyuthing didappears. The utility value f this understanding what is radiating in me I am trying to reproduce in you. Understand this truth: sometime even I feel I haevb less knowledge! Means unable to transmit that same side effects and after effects of this understanding in me. SO I am trying to reproduce all that in you. SO that u wil l hv all thebenfits of this understading in u whatever benefits I am having bcos of this understaidng I wanted all that to ahppenin you.

How many way it has enriched my ecstasy, my joy, all those things I am trying to reproduce that is why I am stuck.

That is why int eh ancient ways they will discuss one sutra 10 20 days, so that fm all the dim the ma will constantly work on one sutra from all different dimensions. All the componenets thru which it enriched him. He will reproduce. I will try to do a few things…

For example, if I die today, I amy nto want to take one more body. If ii want t, I will appear in a palce where all the thhjgns I left this many number f disciple, this org, these kidn of people who are around me, all these twhere it its, I will appear there and that whole setaup will be availabek to me fm young age. It is available for development. It is same for all fo u. if you rop ur body now, ur wealth, intelligence, social whatever u hv, the same kind of situation u will just emerge. Likeone bubble disappearing here and appearing elsewhere. If u hv this understanding the death fear will disappear. There is nothing to change. It is just walking from one hoiuse to another house. People r afraid of change, not death. Better to live with known devil than unknown devil. U don’t know where u will land., whether H body or A body…but more than 99% people who came to human body never trturened to A body that is why population,. Maybe higher or lower level but htat depend on ur decision. Usually if u disappear here u will appear again in the same way. Then what is growth\> wht ever u vhangeinside to reflect inside, that is the only thing – evolution. If u change ur inside to reflect ur original thing u will evolve. For eg., if u take birth with 50% and 50% health, then if u die, u will evolve with 100%. Whole U no stoties no jokes, straight truth in crisp form, direct clicks.

Brain death does nto reduce cur intleigence, it only reduces ur acting out ur intelligence thru ur body.

The E way of understaidn gi s, fist the whole T , conclusion is revealed. The first sutra the conclusion is reveald then step by step. Egyptian system is having a small lamp in forest, oh..forest is trees….oh forest is animals….non on o forest islions….bcos ith this lampwhat u can see seems to be truth…with ur logic what u see semms to be truth. E way is flash of lightning see whole forest then describe it step by step. This rish has described the hwole flash …still I hv not been bale to make u understand thssutra.

If u understand this u will nto have fear of death. If u have fear of death

If u have a father withis much of love and understanding with him, if u die, u will have a father with same udnerstnading and love. If u develop that, u will attract that kind fo father around you. So putting ur energy in developing urself is the best way to attract things around u. how that idea and this sutra is connected, I don’t know how to make u understnadd.

Now what u r….u r totalityof ur karma. If u hv done so many bad things even ow u r in a bad condition. Yesterdays karma is already in u now so u wll take birth like that only. Even now u r suffering ur 10 mins back karma. It is not that whole k will be kept and it will be handed over to you…no.

There is no death. It is only change. Not even change, it is only slipng fro one to another …not even slipping, it is just moving.

I am talking abt a normal persons flow. From the whole if the whole is removed, the whle remains as whole. So even when u go thru all these things u remain as u. it si like one revelation. The whole thing is revealed and the rishi in that ecstasy just pronounce sit – the first truth!

See what K said infinity removed from….mathematically u can understand. I want the effet of that mathematics in you in mind and body that is JM. Understanding it intellectually is gnana mukti but understanding in blood is JM. So all understanding after effects and side effects of it in my body I want to happenin you. Cos it brings in lot of change, lot of transformation…

There is a space in you that doesn’t hange at all. That gives too much attention to something and thingks it changes… there is eome space in you whoch does nnot at all that gives attention to something too much and thinks it is changing. People standing in front of mirror everyday think colour face everything is changed. Men don’t ask me have I changed. But women devotees even afte one hour! If u give too much attention to anything u will think it is constanly changing. U got caught too much in external world u thnk it is constantly changing. Unchanging space attending something, I can say…int hat refelction there is a small mistake, that’s all. The whole thing, is not suns problem or mirror problem. Something got caught in refelction. And becomes self-suffocating. That needw to be justadjusted that’s all.

Neither u happened as u think nor I happened as I think.

If I reproduce this understanding…this happenedas me as enp at 12. I felt whole Is me alive. How I feel inside this skin. That same intensity…if someone pokes u with knife…ho..that same sensitivity I felt this whole. If I use all the words unconditioned brhaman and all, compication comes thru the back door.

Not only u will recognize he will also recognize. U r with me for a long time. So at least now stop that process… go beyond and achieve…!

The sun is unchanging inner space. It reflects on mirrow. It is a changing reflection. That R just cbcos it also shines like sun starts thinking it has its own ind existence and it cannot survive if mirror is broken get toomuch atahced to mirror unable to tolerate its own small movement in mirror.

This crates 10000 of phobias and cimplicatiosn in ur inner space. This one understanding will make disappear many of these phobias… see, the sun is reflecting here. It is the unchanging space in yu. The mirror is the body which u r carrying. Not body , the matter….the reflection starts thinking bcos it is also light…that refelction can give light to 5 cm? bcos osthat I tithinks it is an independent intellogecen and it will go away if the mirror is broken and so afraid of the slow movement….every inch movement is like one life and death. Once for all moving out of mirror is En. Sun is Sun is Sun is Sun even if reflection is suffering, suffocating, ooo….mtgage, husband has run awy….even during that intense suffocation, sun is sun is sun. Reflection of sun bocs it can radiate 5 inches lightl it feels it is also sun but it cannot be stbale like sun…trying to be stable to like the sun holding on tot mirror and creating all possible complications.

In the original consciousness,. I am reflected in my own hand. My own hand acts as a mirrior. My eyes are like the sun, my hands are like the mirror…bcoas of the gap between them, I think they two are different. I am trying to infuse the understanding that comes after 20 years of monastic Vedanta training in you all in few mins. I am catching. In half and hour, I will make u all have tha click.

I am also taking care of physical body but I hv no problems or fears. I am thoroughly practical abt body abtb org but I don’t have fear or complications. U r sraightaway learning abt Existence from Existence. All insider secretes. Like straightaway interviewing. If u want to know imp secretes of business, talk ot Presidne.t Same wy u ra talking away talking to the guy….all the intracies are pened out. Every word is complete truth. U already had vitarka, so even if ur logic is not understnadidng ur being is recording ..i saw….so it is going to live it….

If u can move the mike why cant u move the mountain? U need tools that’s. anything is possible on any scale.

Story:

Nisargadatta maharaj…maharashtra..I am That…great master. Soembodyasked him, En bings donthave K.Then how r u acting? Then how r u moving? He says I am not working…then they ask….u r talking ot us! He says no I am not talking to u. what do u mean they ask? He says, ‘bcos u always wanted me to speak, that very need moves the waves and gives you the feeling I am talking, otherwise I am there. It si just the reflections…the criss crssing on each other on diff things, the whole thing is beign perceived by you. I am not even responding…u fee lit is responding…

A person …if I am responding I shud see as my disciple…I am not seeing u as a disciple…I simply know this whel thing is a psycho drama…like in diff pillows the same air is moving/..one pillow thinks it is stout, one think slim, one thinks enlgithened, one thinks, almost getting there, so diff form and shape and size pillows jumping around…this is the way I am seeing. Whole thing is psycho drama.

I am not actually feeling I am enlightened. But u wll always fee that I feel I am e right? Both ideas are lies. I am e bcos I don’t feel I e. and I don’t have doubt whether I am e or not. Now u hv a doubt, whether I am r or not. But after e u will only feel this whole thing is psychodrama. That is why u feel bondage. Bondage has no existence. It is just different diff pillows jumping around…something something going on…

Bcos u r enjoying it, it is there. Because u wanted it this way it is there. The moment I say I don’t want it. It wont be there. Strongly decideing I do nto want this is what I call unclthicng. Like switching off fan. Few moetns it takes to stop, that few mins is JM. When it stops, videha mukti, E.

Hwo much will u have to talk to me, tht will is enuff. No need strong will..when u can move ur mouth and daba daba…that itself needs u. that you is enough. But ur own doubts ‘that me is not enuff’ is the problem. That doubt takes care that Your own right hand is saying I will do, ur own left hand is saying no don’t do. Doubt is the left hand holding the right hand.

That empty space is what I call poorna. Wholeness… u r not light, u the light of the light….!

Reflection is sun by nature. But when it starst thinking abt its own truth it creates problem. U r beahman, but when u start thinking u r brhaman, u crate a lie! Bcos it cannot express all qualities of sun. so when u think u r individual, u r cannot express all qualities of original life, so u create problem. Reflection trying to hold on tot th mirror is you. By its nature, reflection si moving bcos sun is moving. It is not even moving….for your own understanding I used the word moving.

Few mins questions….:I am really feeling that the real thing that needs ot happen in the VT is happening. This si called sam vada D sitting with M and churning truths. Then nectar will come out. One side right logic one side wrong logic…churning is happening.

This is the mind map of rishis. If you travel thru that u will achieve same state of rishis. That is what I am trying to make u travel thru mind map of me….

Q: U told us that life is not complicated….but it is iiiiiiiiiiiiiiissssssssss…

No, it is not complicated!

Become enlightened, fears will disappear. Don’t wait for fear to disappear first. It is like aiting for waves to settle ebefore bathing. It will never settle down.

JM is that reflection remembering and understanding that it is its source not remembering itself as reflection. Breaking of mirror is not JM. It is videha mukti, ultimately leaving the body.

I used to make clay deities. Usually I will never eat if I sit with the clay and make deities. After ew hs once I finish, I will wonder when I move the body, why the clay is not moving…then I will remember, no no it is clay…

When I say just ask me, I will make u ask the way in which RK wanted! What RK did is not unnecessary. What is am doing is more user friendly.

Even thi s word evolving makes it complicated. I can use the word ‘bored’. When it feels bored at what is being seen it looks back.

This understnadidng is nto staying the whole day in you. That is the only thing missing in you.

What you do not enjoy u shud not even remember it. Otherwise u will behating it and u will recreate it.

LA – Status of liberation! We have strated bargaining with that artist – 100dee life.

Tuning to the truth even tho u know it is a lie is tapas.

U r nothearing any unnecessary words, u r only hearing what I needec so that you will have the experience.

The questions that you ask inside the dream, the answers that you get inside the dream that is karma.

Just sitting will cause vitarka

Energy is same it happens like Shiva or Krishna. I carry the juice of everybody. I am not the avatar of any one of them.

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