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1 February 2007

“If you are trying to unclutch from one thought at a time, it is…”

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If you are trying to unclutch from one thought at a time, it is beautiful. Trying to unclutch from two thought at a time, means, thinking that how will I unclutch, if that happens. That is where difficulty starts. Trying to unclutch from two thought at a time-you are caught. Trying to clutch with two thought at a time-again you are caught. Means, if you experience a glimpse of joy, relaxed mood-now you are trying to clutch with it, you wanted that to be permanent-now you are caught. Means, you are trying to clutch with two moment-am I right? If you want that joy to be continued for next moment also, it means what? You are trying to catch that, for one more moment. You are caught-over...greed...done. Your life is gone.

Same way if you are trying to unclutch from two moment. Means, if you are unclutching from this moment-okay; then you are thinking, "If that happens, how will I unclutch?" Gone! See, understand. These are the basic sutras. These are the basic understanding, which you need to understand. These very few understandings will completely shake you. This is what I call, Brahmo-Upadesham (1:49). Means, getting empowered by the truth. What is exactly your difficulty? When a relaxed, blissful, unclutching, joy happens in you, you are trying to catch that-clutch with that-for two moments. Am I right? All of you understand? You wanted that to continue. Am I right? You wanted that to be there with you, permanently. It means what? You are trying to...you are trying to clutch yourself with many moments at a time. Then? Gone! Shaft is created. Over! It'll disappear. Same way-unclutching; whenever you...you are unclutching from something, you have a thought, "Now I am unclutching, but if stronger thought comes, what will I do? Or if more emotions come, what will I do?"

For example-depression. First thought, "Now I am able to unclutch, but will this depression take me away? Will I forget unclutching? Will I start suffering with this depression? What will happen if this depression takes me over?" Then you are gone! Then you are, over! Done! Understand, unclutch from every single moment, or clutch with every single moment. Do not unclutch with two moments. Do not unclutch with two thoughts. Neither clutching, nor unclutching should be done with two moments or two thoughts. You are done. For enlightenment, all you need is-unclutch from one thought.

Now can anybody say, that "I don't know how to unclutch from one thought"? Anybody who feels that "I don't know how to unclutch from one thought"? No! All of you know, how to unclutch from one thought. It means what? You are enlightened!

Question: Only for that moment.

Swamiji: Arey! enlightenment will happen, only for every moment. Understand! Be very clear, I am not permanently enlightened. I am eternally enlightened, but not permanently enlightened! There is a big difference between permanent and eternal. Understand. There is a big difference between permanent and eternal. Permanent means, past, present, future put together. Eternal means, no past, no future, only present; because there is no past, no future, no present. Eternal means, beyond time; permanent means, all time. I am not enlightened all time, I am enlightened beyond time. Understand. This is a very important thing you need to understand. I am not permanently enlightened. Be very clear. I am eternally enlightened. Enlightenment happens every moment...every moment...every moment.

Swamiji: Understand. When I tell you that I became enlightened on January 1st 2000, it does not mean something has suddenly happened in me. I just decided, from today I will live my enlightenment. I promise you, this is a truth. I just decided, today is my birthday-I think I did all my foolishness enough-from today I'm going to live my enlightenment. That's all! Just decide. Nothing else!

Swamiji: Understand this two thing. For enlightenment, all you need is unclutching from one thought. One more thing-even I can't unclutch from two thought. If I try to unclutch from two thought, I will lose my enlightenment. Fortunately, I don't try. Fortunately, I became intelligent, so I am not trying. If I try to be unclutched from two thought, I am lost! I am lost.

Swamiji: Understand. I have all the dangers which you also have in the life. The possibility for disease-everything is there for this body also-you think this body doesn't have? Ramakrishna had cancer, Ramana Maharshi had cancer, J. Krishnamurty had cancer. Yatishwarananda (7:05) had cancer, Ramswarup Kumar (7:07) had cancer. I can show a big list. Then you think, there is no possibility for this body to have any disease? No! But, I am not trying to unclutch from two moment. That's all.

Swamiji: Now I have cough. Let us unclutch from this. Or if it is getting clutched, let it unclutch with this. Over! That's all is the life. Understand. I am eternally enlightened, not permanently enlightened. You are all trying to have permanent enlightenment. That is why suffering. This moment, be enlightened. Over! Next moment, be enlightened. Over! This moment, just be enlightened. Over! And I tell you, I am enlightened only in this moment....I am enlightened only this moment. Nothing else! I do not know whether I will be enlightened next moment or not. Let you be very clear and I am also very clear. I do not know, next moment whether I will be enlightened or not. Traditionally it is believed that enlightenment stays forever. So, I am telling that word to you. That's all! But, I am not sure about it. Traditionally it is believed. That's all. But, I am not clear about it. Because last six years it did not leave me, so I am thinking that it may not leave. Not...actually not thinking, I am telling you, for your understanding. But otherwise, I am not sure.

Swamiji: Just unclutch from this moment. That's all! You are enlightened. When you go out, just to give-2 lakh rupee. Arey, Nothing else! Understand, very clearly. Actually, because I am telling this, in a simple way, in a comfortable ambience, you are not ready to believe. If I torture you, put you in the fire, make you go around begging and sleeping on the tree; after that if I just whisper you in your ears, without mike, "Oh I understand. Arey, I understand! Aham Brahmasmi! Aham Brahmasmi!"...you jump. Because I didn't give you...torture you enough earlier...and I am telling through mike, you are just sitting, "Oh God! Somewhere the equation is not adding up. How can this be so simple? Did, I missed some link or he himself does miss some link?". If you are sitting and thinking that you missed some link, do some meditation....torture yourself...no problem...unclutch yourself. I'll do some meditation, every day, without missing, two time...morning and evening. If you are suspecting that I missed some link, better run away.

Swamiji: Understand. Now, only three possibility. One, suddenly wake up, "Arey, truth...true!" Let me promise you, nobody can be permanently enlightened. There's only one thing called eternal enlightenment-Nithya Jnana. There is no permanent Jnana. Nithya Jnana means, this moment you are enlightened. This moment you are enlightened. That's all. You can neither be enlightened next moment, nor be enlightened last moment. This moment-enlightened! You may think, "Then what will happen to my life? What is this? What is that? I thought enlightenment means, that you will be like that, like this, and you are giving (11:38) such a simple way. Then, what am I supposed to do?" Nothing needs to be done! "Should I go back and do my same Doctor's job? " If you are interested, do it. If you are not, don't bother. "Then what for I came here, and was here for ten days?" That neither you know, nor I know. "Then what really you..Uh..I mean...what really is getting added to me?" Nothing is being added to you! All you need to know-enlightenment means, unclutching from this moment...this thought.

Swamiji: Can anybody tell...please understand...any of you have a doubt, that I don't think I will be able to unclutch from now...this moment. Everybody is confident here...you can unclutch from this moment...am I right? That's all, you need for enlightenment! And enlightenment happens, only moment to moment. No permanent enlightenment. If somebody tells you, that there is something called permanent enlightenment...bring him...I'll take care. I'll tell him...I'll talk to him. I'll catch him! Of course, they can't tell. If they look at my eyes, they can't tell. Looking into my eyes, they can't tell. There is only eternal enlightenment. Means, you are enlightened in this moment. Understand, time can be touched, only from the present moment. In front of you, there is eternity-past, present, future. But you can touch that eternity only through...present moment. Can you touch this time shaft....in the past?...in the future? No! You can touch this time shaft, only in the present. So, be very clear, you are enlightened now! That is what I am telling you. Enlightenment is not just a noun, it is a verb-constant happening...constant happening-not new. Understand. There will be nothing new. But constantly happening, which is beyond your idea.

Swamiji: First thing, be very clear...do you have confidence that you can unclutch from this moment? Then, naturally you will be able to unclutch from any given moment. Am I right? Then what else can be your problem in the life? That's all, you need to know. That's all you need to know. What else you need to know? ...."But somehow it is not adding up!"

Swamiji: Yes?

Question: Swami I know how to unclutch now...but I need to experience that consciously...experience that gap consciously.

Swamiji: Who told you that you are not experiencing that consciously?

Question: I have not experienced...that's why I don't know, what it is!

Swamiji: Okay. What do mean...what do you think will happen when that experience happens to you?

Question: I can't answer that.

Swamiji: See, now you are telling I have not experienced. What do you mean by that word, "I have not experienced". You are clutching with that word.

Question: That consciously I must understand that gap.

Swamiji: You see, what is conscious and what is gap? Tell me.

Question: See I can unclutch.

Swamiji: These are again the words which you heard in the past, and clutching with it.

Question: I have unclutched.

Swamiji: Ah, that's all!

Question: Consciously I must feel it nah?

Swamiji: Who said, what do you...what do you mean by the word, consciously you must feel it?

Question: Only if I understood that, I could have answered you, but I don't understand that.

Swamiji: First thing, unclutch from the word, you should consciously experience it. See, you are unclutching. That's all! What else you think separately should happen in you?

Question: Moment I unclutch from that word consciousness, I know nothing.

Swamiji: That's all! That is the only problem in your life. You think...that's what I am telling you now...you think, the moment you are unclutched, something will happen in you. Nothing will happen in you...that's what I am telling you...when I became enlightened, do not think something happened in me. If that is written in that cut out...it is a lie...blunt lie. Now I am telling you, simply when you unclutch...you...I...when I say that I've become enlightened...January 1st...I very clearly decided, that I am going to live, my enlightenment. Means, I am going to unclutch from this moment. Over!

Swamiji: You have an idea-"thoughts keep coming"-am I right? This moment-unclutch. If you have one more thought, "thoughts are keeping coming"-unclutch. "No no no, so much of effort, I have to put!" Unclutch. "Every time I have to use the word..this..unclutch it creates so much stress in me"-unclutch. "No no no no no! So much..it should not be strained...enlightenment should be...should be...completely eased and relaxed...automatic by itself." -Unclutch.

Question: At what point it should not happen? (17:56)

Swamiji: "At one point I should be thinking about it...it should happen by itself...that is what I understand as enlightenment". Unclutch. That's all. And there is an idea, "The world should be a maya, that is what is enlightenment". Unclutch. That's what I am telling you now...write all the idea, what you think you will be after enlightenment; and tomorrow we'll go to Kumbhmela to drop that paper in the river. First you write....See?!

Swamiji: Listen hear...see understand. Again you are trying to clutch with two thought, at a time. You see. Listen. The moment I say...that your mind says, "No no no no no! Unclutching means, by now I should have become enlightened." Unclutch. "No no no no no no no, Swamiji says, he knows his past birth, but I am not knowing even my present birth." Unclutch. See, unclutch from every thought, unclutch from every moment. You knowing, past birth and all will happen as side effect, if it is necessary. If it is, necessary. That is what I am telling you from the first day...even if materialization happens in my hand, it is not in my control.

Swamiji: I asked Sai Baba directly, "How are you managing, Baba? Let me be very clear...it's a...personally I asked him, "How are you managing Baba?" He told, "Swamiji. what are you talking...am I giving to everybody? Am I giving it to everybody?" He told me very clearly, "Whenever it is going to happen, I feel very clearly, my hand start shaking intensely, without my control" Then I know, I am going to give, I give." If you observed him giving, any of you observed him giving anything? His hands will start shaking intensely. You have seen? His hands will start shaking intensely.

Question: But then he gave it on a stage, in a public meeting.

Swamiji: That's all..but whenever he gives...

Question: How was the timing, but he doesn't know when.

Swamiji: No! he...no no he...that's what he told me...no no, even in the stage, he doesn't give in all stages. If it happens, they record, that's all. He doesn't give in all stages. He doesn't give in all stages. He tells me very clearly, if I care...if I can...I...you see, in the mass crowd, whatever they do, that only is recorded....what...when he doesn't give...it is never getting recorded. He told me very clearly, "What are you talking Swami? How?

Question: I was in the first row, I saw from very close.

Swamiji: Hands are shaking nah? He told me very clearly, whenever that thought comes up, that it is going to happen, my hands start shaking. Hmm...Hmm..He told me very clearly. Understand. "It starts shaking, and it comes out, that's all I know." And the same thing with me. Understand, not only with me, with anything...if it is necessary, for Parashakti to express through this body...it'll do. One more thing, enlightenment does not mean you should have any special qualification. It is complete lie. There can be enlightenment without any extra-ordinary quality.

Swamiji: Kabir, all he did...doing the same vivi (21:46). There are so many enlightened beings, who lived on the planet earth, without any power, any show, anything. This Ramswarup Kumar, (22:01) from morning till night, he will sit and smoke, that's all. But amazing being. There are so many. Do not associate your greed for power with enlightenment. Your greed for extra-ordinary things with enlightenment. See, the whole thing, is to finally, sharpen you completely, to bring you to that one corner...to that one present moment...to that one center. For that, I have to use, so many words, to beat all the words which you are carrying in your head.

Swamiji: Every word I use, is nothing but, equating the words which you are carrying in your head. First I use 100 word and equate 2000 words which you are carrying. Again, let's use 20 words and equate the 100 words which I gave you. Now I am throwing two-three words and equating the 20 words which you are carrying in you. And I throw the silence and equate the 2 words you are carrying in you.

Question: Swamiji, you were saying, unclutch from thoughts or unclutch from ideas?

Swamiji: Anything, idea and thought are not two different thing, it's one and the same.

Question: But every single thought?

Swamiji: Every single thought.

Question: Either clutch or unclutch, one single thought?

Swamiji: If it clutches, it clutches...if you are aware-unclutch. Actually, when you unclutch from this moment...this moment...this moment...suddenly you see, those unaware periods disappear. Those periods will appear, as long as you believe that the periods can repeat in you, again and again. Your faith, that unconscious moments can repeat in you, is the only difficulty. Totally unclutch in this moment. If you'll not...if you are totally unclutched this moment, maybe you will not be able to move from this body...move this body at all; or maybe your body will start moving wildly...anything can happen...about that you don't have to bother.

Swamiji: In my case, whenever I am unclutched, I can move wildly my body in the rotating way; but I can't move in the linear way. See, whenever I am in Samadhi, I can't move my body, even the one or two inch. It'll be imbalanced. But I can just whirl...con..like a uh...uh...what rpm you don't know...I can whirl. Because visualization, the whirling is visualization-spinning; linear movement is related to verbalization. So verbalization movement will be imbalanced, visualization movement will be intense. This is the way it happens in this body. But that does not mean that this is the experience you are supposed to have when you are enlightened.

Swamiji: Now only you need to understand, kill Buddha when you meet him on the way. Kill the ideas which you are carrying about enlightenment, which you got from me. Understand, kill all the ideas about enlightenment which you got from me, now. Buddha says, kill me when you meet me on the way. Because, you will not become me. I have not become my Master. Understand, I have not become my Master. He was he, I am me. All you need to know-unclutch from this moment. What way, what should express from you, through you, will do. And I promise I do not know what will happen tomorrow to my moment (26:03)). I promise...I promise on the same Arunachala, tomorrow I do not know, what will happen to my movement (26:10). I am telling you, I am just like you. All I do, or all happens-only unclutching from this moment. I am very clear, I do not know, tomorrow what will happen to my moment (26:30. Don't think, I have a clear agenda, I came down and I am executing. No! Let me be very clear. No! If you just unclutch, suddenly you will realize, there is agenda in your life, which is happening...you will...about which you will not even bother.

Question: Do you have to put constant effort?

Swamiji: First thing, what do you mean by the word-constant effort?

Question: To clutch or unclutch.

Swamiji: Unclutch...constant effort means what? Again, the idea which you had in the last experiences. There is no constant effort. Unclutch from this moment...again, unclutch from this moment...how can you say it is a constant.

Question: But every moment you have to put effort.

Swamiji: Every moment, unclutch, that's all. Now you wanted to use the word, "put effort", because, you are now connecting with the ideas that how many times you put effort earlier. And again, you are um...having the connnect...creating a shaft..."constantly have to unclutch, because constantly I am clutching".

Swamiji: One more thing, unclutch this moment, why do you have a strong belief, that next moment you will be again clutched and you have to unclutch. You have a strong faith, "Even if I unclutch this moment, next moment I will be clutched, because this happened earlier"....am I right? That itself is a lie! There is a possibility, unclutch this moment, and do not believe, that next moment you will be clutched again. There is every possibility. And after two three times you do, "No no no no no again I am clutching". Unclutch again from the idea, that, "Again I am clutching". Where is the question-again you are clutching? Now only you are clutching...and now again, unclutch.

Swamiji: Handle your mind, one thought at a time, with simple patience. You are won...you won the game! If you try to attack your mind as a whole- wage war with one million soldiers, you are gone! Unclutching, is the one weapon you have. One weapon can kill only one soldier at a time. This is one sword, one sword can kill only one person at a time. Do not attack two person at a time.

Swamiji: Now ask, "Should I constantly put effort? Actually, put constant effort, but don't it...you don't even use the word, that you have to put a constant effort. That word creates a boredom and stress in you, and that word doesn't have meaning...because there is no constant effort. What do you mean by constant effort? If you look at the whole thing as in one spectrum, only then the idea 'constant effort' comes. But the whole spectrum does not exist in one view. Then how can you say 'constant effort'? The effort which you put day before yesterday, yesterday, one hour ago, they are individual efforts, independent happenings. Why do you connect and see that I am putting constant effort? Sometime, you will not even know, you will not even bother, whether you are clutched or unclutched-you will just execute. Over!

Swamiji: There are so many things, you just execute. You just relax. Even if there are negative consequences of what you executed, what is there? Unclutch. At the most what can happen...death. If you are clutched you think death will not happen? At the most about what you are afraid? You may do something in the clutched moments...and that may result in a difficulties and problems in your life...how to solve?...am I right? These are all the fears, "that may bring some ill-effects in my life"-these are all the things. Alright, now if you are living with a clutched-normal way-you think that is going to be avoided? Anything can be avoided? Nothing can be avoided, whether you are clutched or unclutched. If you are unclutched, there is a possibility that you will live completely liberated.

Question: Swamiji, if there is awareness of thought, that's rising up in this moment...

Swamiji: 'If' there is awareness of thought. No! Rejected. Next.

Question: You said, when you are in that moment...

Swamiji: No, I have not said, you have heard. Ha..ha..yes..

Question: That you cannot move or anything. How can one...how can you walk and how can you talk?

Swamiji: Oh! One thing, this happens sometime...this...hap...sometime I am able to walk and move. But sometimes, it happens, that I am not able to move the body, and just the body is there...only the awareness is there. When it happens, why it happens, I don't know.

Question: So, we shouldn't try..do this when we are trying to drive?

Swamiji: And...I don't think you need to be afraid about that, now. Even if you are driving, and you become stagnant...you may end up in accident and die...what is there? That's all! Nothing wrong! Why should you be so much bothered about death? Alright! If you...if you are protecting yourself so much and not unclutching at all...you think you are not going to die? That's all. Over! It may be preponed or postponed. First of all, where is the question of preponing or postponing? If there is a fixed date, only then the preponing or postponing happens. There is no fixed date. It's not that if you are not unclutched there is no..um....there is no accident at all possibility.

Swamiji: There is a possibility of accident, even if you are clutched...am I right? And all accident in the planet earth is happening, only with clutching. If you...if you see the statistic, I have not seen in my life, a single accident happening when somebody is unclutched. If I have to talk in statistics terms, 100% unclutching is a safety. No accident is possible during unclutching; because I have not seen a single person getting into accident during unclutching. 100% accident happens only during clutching. So, the safest way to drive-unclutched. No...truth! This is the way you come to the conclusion nah?...based on statistics. You are the researcher, you know. According to the research ideology, which you are practicing...principles...this is the conclusion...for safest driving...unclutch! Am I right?

Question: But with breaks...unclutch...with the breaks on..

Swamiji: No, I don't say that. Unclutch and do whatever happens. Because, I have not seen a single person, suffering any way, during unclutching. One more thing...this incident...I think I should tell...but other way...I don't want to give you some hope or courage or idea...may be I tell you...just understand the spirit of this incident. When I was unclutched...like this...my body was falling-the forest, where I was staying-may be 2-3 months, it was fallen...um..it was in the same place...did not move. The whole hair was eaten by the ant-hill and even now there is a hole...this hole was created by the ant-hill. Understand, the ant-hill grew, slowly on the hair...and this hole which you all see...is created by the ant-hill. That white ant started eating the flesh...and the skin...and slowly the... One..one more thing, when white..white ant eats..eats your skin...you won't have bleeding. They eat only small-small bit. So, only the new kind of white skin starts growing on you....like a small..very soft white skin, grows on you. This was eaten by the white ant. I don't know how, that has stopped eating further...or they did not eat my eyes...or all those things I don't know. But after some time when I...when the body started moving, I cleaned myself..just had a head bath, that's all...things became alright. You...it may...it may feel like extra-ordinary or too impossibilty...and I tell you...this is possible, if unclutching is possible in you. Anything is possible. Nothing is impossible. And you don't even have to think this further and all..don't bother about that. Even if you die...what is there? And you think you are not going to die, if you are clutched? As I told you, 100% accident happens during clutching. I have not seen a single percent accident happen...single accident happening during unclutching. So as long as the..um..as..um...if you start doing the statistics, based on your past experiences, it says, "Unclutching will not create accidents...and all clutching creates accidents" Over!

Question: Inaudible (36:24)

Swamiji: You see, unclutch this moment and next thing, you need to do is, order for a crown and the paduka. Nothing else. Order for a crown and paduka...next moment. Over! And if it comes, wear it and enjoy...if it does not come...just enjoy. Over! The moment you look at your life as a past, present and future...problem comes. There is only one present. There is nothing else exists. So no project. No project, no product...not just confidence...confidence. When you use the word, just confidence, you brush the confidence aside. 'Confidence'...not 'just confidence'. We call in Sanskrit, 'Dhee'

Question: What do you call?

Swamiji: Dhee, in Sanskrit. The word, "Dhee"...means, the confidence. It is not...that...you don't even need confidence...you see, you need confidence only on lies...on truth you don't need confidence. Truth is a truth, even if you don't have confidence. Whether you have confidence on Sun or not, tomorrow morning, Sun will rise. Whether you are confident or not you are every moment unclutching. That's all! You see, understand, now all you need to do is celebrate! Nothing needs to be done! Just get a crown and the trishul and the paduka...and your own gold. Now all you need, is somebody, to print your photograph. Aha...print your photograph...and somebody to print the name...the Paramahamsa and some title...whatever you want to use. Whatever you like, just select. Maybe tomorrow morning you have, name selection...name selection. See, earlier programs, I used to give name...I used to select. Now you can sit and choose...what title you want to choose...now, may not be name...but the title you can choose, "Haan, I think Jagatguru title will look much better for my charisma." Now all you need to do is, choose your title. Are, nothing else...now you know everything. Now you are completely empowered with the knowledge....all...

Swamiji: One more thing...one more thing...important thing...I tell you..and..you see...listen hear...and I again promise on Arunachala and tell you...this idea, that you should have experience, is a lie. Understand, it's a lie. Unclutch from this moment...that's enough. No need for all this nonsense, "You should have experience, only then you are enlightened" Nothing! If there is something called experience, it will go away...it will go away. You need only intelligence, not experience.

"Prajnanam Brahma"

Means, intelligence is enlightenment. The intelligence, to unclutch from every moment. Again, you don't have to use that, "Oh, I think I don't have intelligence." Intelligence to unclutch from this moment. Do you have? Prajnanam...that is what is called, Prajnanam. Prajnanam means, the ability to unclutch from this moment. "Prajnanam Brahma". You are enlightened.

Question: Swamiji, if...if we take this concept, that we unclutch from a moment and live in the moment...is it two things? I mean, we will continue to live our life, with what we are doing...with...um..just living...without anything...

Swamiji: One thing...don't even..um...create a thought, "I may continue to living...be living, whatever I am doing and who knows...you will be doing the same thing? No! We don't know. When you unclutch, from every moment, you may drop your profession, or you may take up a new profession...or you may add this profession...or you may just do this...we don't know. About that, now you don't bother...that's what I told you...no plan after February 5th.

Question: Why do we need to unclutch every moment?

Swamiji: No need also...if you don't need...there is no need. Whether you unclutch or not, you are enlightened-that's what I am telling you now. That's the first...next step.

Question: So Swamiji, so even, over 40 years of age, you can get enlightened?

Swamiji: Yes! Who told you, you will not become enlightened over 40? No! That is a lie. Are, one more thing...listen hear...whatever you heard from earlier...now....push them all aside. As I told you, all the other programs, are just marketing strategy. They are all Vyavaharika Satya (41:50). Now what I am talking to you is a Paramarthika Satya (41:54). Understand. Satya is two. Truth is two. Vyavaharika Satya (42:04), means, this mission...why this big throne?...so that...you see....if I sit in a big chair, then the chairs of ordinary post (42:15)...so that you will gather the respect, "Oh, this guy has got something. I think, this guy must be, little better than me, let..let me listen, what he is talking." That's Vyavaharika Satya (42:26).

Swamiji: But the Paramarthika Satya (42:29), is totally different. Understand, whatever you heard from me, till yesterday...no, till last moment...is just Vyavaharika satya (42:40). That is why, I am telling you, do not confuse with my marketing strategies and the truth. Core truth is Paramarthika Satya (42:51), which I am saying now...which I am talking to you now.

Swamiji: To make you...to make you, fall in tune or to make you, to listen to this Paramarthika Satya (43:04), I have to build up all the Vyavaharika Satya (43:07) and bring you here. Understand, unless you get enough of Vyavaharika Satya (43:16)...Vyavaharika Satya (43:17) is comparity with reality...comparative truth. Unless you understand, the comparative truths, you will not have respect or you will not grow up to the level, to listen the Vyavaharika Satya (43:33)...the Paramarthika Satya (43:34)...the truth.

Swamiji: Now I am telling you the truth. You see, if I tell this Paramarthika Satya (43:43) directly, you will pull me down to your level, you will not come to my level. You will pull me down to your level. You will think, " Oh! I think this fellow doesn't know anything." Listen. The Paramarthika Satya (44:01) has to be given, only to a person,who is in tune...who can catch it. Now when I said, I saw so many eyes, just...opening up...just lighting up. Those guys have got it! That fire has been put now....the fire has been put now. Now the fire will start working...and even if there's that..eyes not lit up...don't bother...you also got it. "How, my eyes lit up or not, should I have a glass? I think I should see that videograph...did my eyes lit up?" Don't create one more problem. All your eyes lit up. And don't have...you see, one more thing...if you go away, perfectly alright.

Swamiji: One more thing I tell you...now I promise, again I promise on the same Arunachala, I liberate you from me and your gratitude towards me. There is no need for you to be grateful to me. I taught you this...I am speaking to you this...because I enjoy this..not for your gratitude. Your gratitude is not worthy of having. Tell...let me tell you...your gratitude and all is useless! I have seen enough...and I don't trust you...I am telling you directly. I am telling every individual...don't think, bec...I am telling in the mass, "He's telling next person". Do not think I am talking to your neighbor, I am telling every person, I can tell the names...I don't trust you...I don't trust you...I don't trust you. I am telling you directly. I don't trust your gratitude. I am not interested in your gratitude.

Swamiji: All I'm interested...one thing...if you walk on the Planet Earth unclutched...this planet Earth will feel blessed. That's the only thing I am working for. This mother Earth will feel blessed. If I make at least ten people walk on this Planet Earth unclutched-I've done...I am done. All that we need is that's all. Nothing else. Your gratitude or you staying with me...all these things are useless...I don't believe...I don't believe. People who stayed with me for years...run away...what is there? Even if you stay, what will you do? What is there? Alright, even if you make a bigger ashram or bigger monastery, what do you think? Again I am going to catch...instead of now 100...I'll catch 200 and take the...teach the same thing. Again I am going to talk the same thing. That's all! I will catch a few more people, that's all. May be for that, this work...going on. Just because, there is a possibility, for more people, to understand this truth and walk on the Planet Earth unclutched, this whole drama is going on. Over! I am supporting this drama...that's all. Understand, this gratitude...this leaving..or getting...staying...all these things are no use. The one and only use-understanding the Paramarthika Satya (47:32)...that's all. Paramarthika Satya (47:35) is-unclutch from this moment. Unclutch from this moment. Unclutch from this moment. Over!

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1 February 2007
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