“Please explain the two tasks ‘This is not’ elimination and ‘This is it’…”
Please explain the two tasks ‘This is not’ elimination and ‘This is it’ identification done by chitta and manas respectively.
This is not E for example, you want to find the word in the dictionary. First you eliminate: not A, not B, not C etc. Until you come to H it is only elimination process. Once you come to H, it is identification process. You start identifying ‘HO’, then HOM, then you come to home. Even in the identification process, there is elimination, but that cannot be considered to be elimination, because the whole attitude is changed. Till you come to H, you don’t even look at anything. You just eliminate. Once you come to H, H becomes a stand point. Then you start looking for HO, HOM, etc. It is like this: you have thousands of files. In that, for example, when you see me, you start eliminating: This is not a stone not a tree, not an animal. Then you come to man. Once you come to man, you start identifying, saffron clothed, my master, Nithyananda - all these things. Elimination means finding the classification. Identification means, in that classification going in depth. Elimination is breadth, identification is depth. Elimination process is like handling any files. Identification process is like identifying deeply into a file.
Sometimes after meditation, I feel like I am being pulled into a black hole. What is this experience?
This is Ananda Gandha. AG is the ultimate blackhole. AG is not shoonya as we think; it is poorna. Shoonya means nothing. It is not nothing, it is everything; it is the fullness. Blackhole is the wrong name given by scientists. It is a white hole. In it, everything is there, but the frequency at which it exists is high. For example, these trees are moving, you can hear that sound. But the whole planet earth is moving, but you are not able to hear that sound, why? Because the frequency is high. In the same why, when sound exists in a different frequency, you cant hear it. If matter exists in a different frequency, you cant see it. Blackhole is the place where the frequency of the matter becomes too much. Because you can’t see it, you call it blackhole. It is not that things disappear. They exist in a higher scale, in a higher frequency. So when you are in AG, you are entering into enlightenment where you exist in a higher frequency. Once you realize that you exist in a higher frequency, the fear of death will disappear in you. You will not have fear of losing anything. Fear of losing something happens….see, why you get continuously irritated? Because you are afraid, insecure. Once you realize that you exist in higher frequency, that you will never die, there is no such thing as death for you, that you will never perish, simple the insecurity will disappear. That is why I tell people, AG meditation is the ultimate technique which can put you in enlightenment. It will show you that you exist in higher frequency. What you think as you never dies. It exists always in higher frequency. What can die never existed. In you if you think that something can die, it never existed. Even now it does not exist. To you it may exist, but it never exists. In you, something that never dies can never be killed. That which cant die, can never be killed; that which dies never existed. So naturally, there is no need for fear. AG meditation will prove that you exist in higher frequency. In which there is no death.
When I awaken, sometimes I feel I am paralysed. It is as if I am in between two layers, it is quite scary. It is like I am not quite conscious but out of sleep, what is this?
This is what is pranic layer. Your breathing has not become proper. In your deep sleep, your breathing was not proper. Still you are caught in your pranic layer of desires. Desire is the reason for this layer. Maybe working on that pranic layer meditation. If I find any of you is caught or stuck in a particular layer, I will prescribe meditation for that layer. In addition to your regular routine, you can do that meditation. The pranic layer meditation is the second layer meditation in the NSP. It is shifting your consciousness to the pranic layer and visualizing all your desires. Do that mediation, it will work on you.
You said enlightenment can be granted in a moment with a touch. Why are we then doing all these techniques?
Because you are not ready. You wont be able to handle it; you wont be able to imbibe it; you are not fully open to it. It is not even that you wont be able to handle it, you are not fully open to it. All the techniques are just preparing you to reach that level of openness, that depth of openness.
You speak from your being level to our being level. Then how do you expect us unenlightened people deliver close to what you deliver. Don’t we need to experience before we lead others down the path?
First thing: I am not asking you to lead people down the path. I will not give you that responsibility till you become enlightened. I am only telling you to reproduce the same experience you had in you in others. Only when you reproduce you will understand, in how many different ways you need to learn about it. In vedic culture, we have learning through 4 methods. When you sit with the master, you learn only 25% When you discuss with your friends, you learn 50%,When when you start writing or penning down. When you start answering questions, you are working on the material that you learnt. It is called manana. Here you learn 7%. Only when you teach, you learn 100%. I have always seen. The ASP effect happens on a person only when he becomes acharya.
So I am not asking you to lead people down the path. I am only asking you to reproduce the same inspiration that happened in you in others. Leading them down the path, I will take care!
Could you explain the quality of the seven layers. How you perceive them, where they are located in the Consciousness. How we pass through them when sleeping, waking and dreaming.
Qualities of he seven layers…See one thing: they are seen different frequencies. They are neither around you nor inside you. Don’t understand the seven layers as we put that drawing: First there will be one layer that is the physical layer, then the pranic layer…no. They are at different frequencies. Right now you are at 100 frequency, in the physical layer. When you raise up to 200, you will be in pranic layer. When you raise up to 300, you will be in the mental layer. For example, during the whole day, you might not be in the same layer. If you are caught up in too much of desires, you will not even experience the physical body, you will experience only the pranic layer. If you are u caught too much in worrying, you will experience only the mental layer. Layers are like different frequencies. I most part of the day if you experience the Ananda Gandha, you will experience only the nirvanic layer. You are almost enlightened, you are living enlightenment. Again and again, lifting you to the higher frequency, is the purpose of NSP and Ananda Gandha meditation. As on now, most of the time you stay in physical layer and pranic layer. Rarely you go up to subtle layer or mental layer. Then finally you drop in causal layer and come back. Never you go beyond the causal layer. Maybe, if you really in tune with the master, whenever you see him, you might start experiencing the cosmic layer. Only when you are constantly in Ananda Gandha, you will experience the nirvanic layer. This is the way you experience the seven layers everyday.
Why do some people cannot handle your energy?
This is a completely wrong idea. There is no such thing as this. It means they have their own psychiatric problem. They have their own prejudices, strong beliefs, that’s all. There is no such thing as they cannot handle my energy. My energy is only always healing, soothing and fulfilling the being. In my presence even there a re any psychiatric problems, they will simply settle down and disappear. If they are not open and behave in an arrogant and violent fashion, they will behave out of their ego as if something is going on, just to have your attention.
What is the effect of clearing the chakras in handling the Master’s energy.
Simply it will clear the chakras. You don’t have to do anything. Just do not be egoistic, that’s all. Simply my energy will clear your chakras.
After ASP, some people feel something more subtle in their energy system, Is it a direct result of chakra cleansing?
Yes.
Some people felt after ASP, that if they smoke, the smoke felt very heavy on their system.
Yes. It is a direct result of chakra cleansing. Once you clean the swadhishtana, you cannot smoke. The habits of smoking and drinking will simply disappear. Swadhishtana is the place where you have all the imprints. Major habit imprints stay in swadhishtana only.
Meditation techniques work straight away during the course. But as they bring more understanding about our blockages, it seems like a clearing of emotions happen during the following months. Does that keep on working on the chakras?
Yes. That also works on the chakras.
How does your guidance influence the process?
See, understand: you have two things: Hardware, software. Software is mind, hardware is brain. In the mind, there are two parts – Conscious mind and unconscious zone. Unconscious zone is virus. Conscious zone is the actual software. The Conscious zone can be cleansed by the teaching. Unconscious zone can be cleansed by meditation. The hardware, the brain itself, will be tuned to hold this experience by energy darshan and Master’s blessing – the dhiksha. When you clean the conscious and unconscious and create an effect, the hardware may not be able to hold and sustain that effect from day 1. If the Master’s energy darshan happens, the hardware also changes to hold that effect. If you don’t get that dhiksha, constant meditation and teaching will change the hardware. Hardware is more like grooves created, samskaras created; the grooves created in that. If the hardware is not proper, once the new software happens, the hardware will slowly get changed. Immediately if you want a change in the hardware, energy darshan is the right thing. Straight away it will change the hardware. Sometimes, without even changing the software the hardware can be changed and the person will straightaway start radiating the software’s quality. That can happen when a disciple is completely open to Master. If he is in love with the Master for no reason… sometimes a disciple falls in love with the Master for no reason. They may not be attracted to teachings, they may not be attracted to meditation techniques, just they fall in love. Straightaway, you can change the hardware. Only those kind of disciples will be simply radiating the quality of the teachings and meditation without even going through all of them. They would not have gone through all those things but straightaway the result is seen.
See, as on now. both hardware and software are outgoing. If you do the ASP, suddenly the software becomes ingoing; gong in, towards spirituality, towards cleansing process. Conscious portion by teaching and unconscious portion by meditation – it starts going inside. Then naturally what happens? You see: even if software turns inside, hardware will not be able to handle it. Then naturally hardware will try its best. If the software is too strong and stays in the same tune, then hardware will change. But immediately, if after the teaching and meditation is given, the dhiksha and blessing is also given, the hardware will also change and it will start holding. It will be prepared to hold on to the same experience.
How does
Staying in my presence and my guidance will straightaway change the hardware. Your hardware is now getting ready to hold on to the transformation and the software and the whole process.
Some people relate to past lives and the experiences during meditation. What is the process here and how does it come up?
Sometimes it comes up..mostly it is only their fantasies. They will not be able to go that depth to find out their past lives immediately. Present life understanding itself will take a lot of time. How do you think these fellows will know about past lives?
Transformation question…
Your body is nothing but an expression of your being. If the being starts changing, the expression will also start changing. So naturally, if you constantly feel you are embodiment of bliss and joy, simply your body will start radiating that grace and energy. You body will become so supple, not subtle, but supple. Flowing grace will start happening in your body. Whatever you feel, you become that.
After NSP, I have no ability to visualize, what to do?
It is good, nothing wrong. It means all your earlier visualization was only psychological worrying, not proper planning. Now, a new visualization will start happening in you. It wont be imagination, it will be like a vision. You will see the 3-D picture of what to do and what will happen. That will happen in you. Maybe it will start working on you.
If you know yourself, you will know God. All Masters ask us to look inwards and examine ourselves. How do we do it?
One thing: These words – Look inwards and examine ourselves. They are two contradicting words. When you look inwards, you can never examine. Just look, then whatever has to be examined will simply happen by itself. If you are examining, you are not looking inside, you are judging. Two things: If you look inwards, whatever is there in front of you will be simply burnt away and that is what is looking inwards and that is what Masters say. Examining means it is like a technique, judging yourself and correcting. It is more like working, not the right thing. There is a big difference. Just look inwards, everything will just disappear. Looking inwards means, everything will be cleaned. Simply the unclutching will start happening. Whenever things happen in you, thoughts raise in you, just see. Ho you see me, same way see the thoughts. Do not judge, do not identify yourself with it. You see: whenever a thought raises in you, you will see he meaning of the thought. Do not give meaning to it. Just see the sound from where it comes. Whenever a thought raises in you, if you see its meaning, if you give meaning to it, you will go to the outer world. If you don’t give meaning and just see it, you will go in. You will fall into the place from where the thoughts raise. Do not give meaning to the thoughts. Initially it will be little difficult, because if you do that you will not be able to work. It is ok; even if for a few days you don’t work, it is ok. Just do not give meaning. Suddenly you will see, even without analyzing, simply your body is working in a beautiful way, with intense visualization. As on now you will work giving meaning to the words. But I am working giving no meaning to any word. From you to me, the transition period is what I call tapas. In my case, I don’t give any meaning to any word. Simply the body is working and whatever has to work is working. In your case, you give a lot of meaning to all the words, only then it works. Just stop giving meaning. In the beginning you may stop working, you may become lazy, dull, for a few days. Suddenly a consciousness will awaken in you. You will feel hunger, simply without thinking, your body will move towards the kitchen and you will eat; it will come down and rest. Suddenly your body will get up and say, Let me go and do the Gurukul work. You will not even analyse whether it is right or wrong. There won’t be two persons – creating the thought or judging the thought or executing the thought. Now there are two persons inside. One person creates the thought. The other person either judges it or executes it. Now, the two persons will disappear. There will be only person. Creating, judging, executing will all be done in a simultaneous way. That is what I call spontaneous life. Just it happens. There is nobody to judge, there is nobody to execute. The very thought itself becomes Life. There wont be gap between thinking and execution. The problem with these fellows is that one is constantly judging and another one is constantly executing without judging. Both are problem.
One Master said, ‘Guru, if you love him, he is inside you. Thereafter, you need not do any practice.’
Yes. You see: till the Guru awakens in you only you need the practices. Once the Guru inside is awakened, you don’t need any practice or anything.
In NSP, how much of the effect is based on meditation and how much is based on your presence?
It depends on the person ma. On intellectual type of persons, only the effect of meditation will be there, because they believe only in their effort. They don’t trust that the Master’s presence can do something. For a person who is open, there will not be any effect through meditation; only my effect will be there. If a person is opening straight away, his hardware can be changed. My effect changes the hardware. Meditation and teaching changes the software. If he is a software oriented guy, if he is intellectual, then naturally only his software will be touched. If he is being level, then straightaway his hardware will be touched. If he is open, simply the grooves in his brain will change. I am now trying to do some research. But the brain grooves can never be directly studied, that is the main problem. Even the PET scan do not study the brain grooves.
There is no need for enlightened persons to eat or sleep, but doctors advise it. How are their bodies able to sustain?
You see: in enlightened persons, it is not that they completely do not need food or sleep. They don’t need as much as you take, as much as a normal man takes. Otherwise it is necessary. Little bit of food and sleep is necessary.
Somebody says that in DSP, Swami said that all mantras and meditation are useless. Then why do we have to do mantras and meditation regularly in the ashram?
You yourself are useless. You should understand that you are useless. That is why you are being taught all useless things. Till you think you are useful you will be taught all useless things. But you don’t realize you are useless, that is why I am teaching you all useless things. Once you understand that you are useless, then the useless things that I taught, those things and you, not can be dropped. If you think you are useful, then mantras ad all those things are also useful. If you understand the truth that you are useless, then those things are also useless. Both are same frequency. When I say that all those are useless, I mean that you are also useless. So understand that you are useless. But till you understand that you are useless, they are useful, then learn them. Do any of you feel you are useless?
Yes Swamiji.
No! if you really feel, then you will become enlightened. Then drop yourself! Still you are carrying yourself means one corner you think you are useful. Then learn all those things. As on now you are useless, that is why you are being taught all useless things. I am not teaching you a single thing that us useful. Once you understand that you are useless then you have learnt the ultimate useful thing. That is the only thing which is the ultimate thing. What is that? You are useless. That is the ultimate useful thing that you need to learn. But until you realize that I will constantly teach all useless things for you. Being unclutched will happen only when you know you are useless. Being useless is not the right thing. Realising you are useless is the right thing. Then you will be really useful. Being useless you are already! Because you think you re useful, you are useless. What you think, you will be opposite of that in your life. If you think you are useful, you will never be useful. Oh why to waste me, let me protect myself. But if you understand you are useless, you will simply throw yourself completely; you will be all out. You will just decide, ‘after all I am useless. Let me throw myself out. You will be 24 hrs continuously working; then you will be useful. Understanding you are useless and being useful. Anybody who thinks they are useful only become arrogant. All nonsense.
TAPE I
The real freedom is complete surrender to the higher intelligence. When you have that intelligence awakened in you, surrender to that intelligence. When you are clear that it is not awakened in you, when surrender to the person in whom it is awakened. Then he will see that that intelligence is awakened in you also. That is the real freedom. Real freedom is surrender to the higher intelligence. Otherwise what you think as freedom is only bondage to the senses. And you logic and your ego which will not lead to anywhere, which will lead to just nowhere. You will just be beating around the bush or the bush will be beating around you.
Tape III
Questions answered by Swamiji on 21 Sep outside Ananda Sabha in th reception area, to a group of ashramites (English batch).
Acceptance. You see, your mind is alive. You exist as you are, now, just because you do not accept what you are. If you accept whatever you are as it is inside and as it is outside, even for a few seconds, suddenly you will see that so much energy comes out of you. And such a deep inner healing happens in you. Either, you should be completely dissatisfied with you. Then you will be disgusted and you will drop yourself. Or, you should completely accepted itself. Even for a few moments, if you completely accept, inside whatever you have, outside whatever you have, it is enough. Suddenly you will see, you drop from all the fightings that you are having constantly with yourself and so much of energy starts coming out of you. If the energy is not coming out of you, you have accepted only in the superficial level, not with a full depth. Accept with full depth. With a complete depth.
Inevitability means, just realize that life is inevitable. Death is inevitable. Things are inevitable. If it is evitable, you would have done it. You are struggling means it is inevitable. Inevitable can never be evitable because that is why it is called inevitable. If it is evitable, then why is it called inevitable? Understanding the inevitability of things and accepting can transform and release tremendous energy in you. Tremendous understanding in you.
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