“I think yesterday was a real glimpse of Himalayas.”

Ocean of kavi everywhere.

I think yesterday was a real glimpse of Himalayas. Lot of things happened. That; what will happen next, you don’t know. Yesterday I think all of would have had that, had the glimpse. And some three bus is standing there, some one bus is standing there; where which bus is standing nobody knows. Who will come what time nobody knows; and where they are nobody knows.

It’s nice, but it’s a real fun and after going and coming down, this is paining, that is paining. Whether Swadishtana opened or not, Mooladhara has become right. And especially if you have gone on the pony and that pony will simply go behind the girlfriend. No, all the ponies will have their match, company, you would have seen and it won’t bother who is sitting on the top and even if you shout in English, ‘Stop! Stop!’, nothing. Pony doesn’t understand English. Not only pony, pony father also doesn’t understand English. And you will be shouting, ‘Stop! Stop! Stop!’ and that fellow will be, ‘Eh, chalo, chalo !’ And, and it will go to the edge just to eat that two grass; and you are sitting holding. That pony will walk very casually to the edge picking that grass and, and from that height you will see that down. No question of parapet wall.

And if you are sitting on the, on the palanquin, those fellows will be nicely dancing, ‘chak, chak, chak’ their steps and you can neither see this side, nor see that side. And if you would have gone, especially if you would have gone palanquin or pony it is completely right. Mooladhara would have completely right.

But one thing all the pain is worth underneath to see this beauty, to see the whole beauty. To see the whole beauty and to see the whole thing, the pain is really worth undergoing. You can never imagine such a thing exists on planet earth, when you see these steeps and valleys of Himalayas. Everywhere the river flowing in such a wild way.

There is a beautiful Sanskrit poem. Since the river and the Himalayas, Ganga and Himalayas they constantly fight with each other. How you know, the land slide will happen and completely block the river passage, and the river will keep quiet, for a month or two. And when the snow melts, the Ganga will bring big, big snow blocks and hit the hill and break the hill and make a path and travel. And again after few months Himalayas will wait, the hill will wait and then have a land slide and then block the Ganga again. Again the Ganga will bring the snow rocks, at least hundred feet or hundred feet, at least hundred to two hundred feet rock, the snow block moving, I myself have seen with my eyes. Hundred, two hundred feet, that snow block will just move, slide. You cannot imagine. You cannot imagine, that size snow moving. And it will just slide and come down. Such a amazing scene.

You can see this whole Gharwal, this area people, how much of trust and simplicity they must be having to live here. How much of trust each, that ponywallah, each guy who is carrying that palanquin, that palanquin will be having. With what trust they must be living here. Understand, you fellows are sitting in the cities. Just see their lives. How much of trust! I can say one thing sure, for sure, they may be poor in economically, but consciously they are so rich. They are so rich. The power to trust. Power to trust, even if the hill is taking the, even if the nature is exploiting them. Power to trust even if they are seeing constantly all these land slides and deaths. Last time when we came we saw a ghoda flowing in the river and it doesn’t take more than two second. One slip, over! Why our guy, one of our guy, who is here, slipped. Somehow by divine grace he was lifted. Which place? Gangotri?

Audience: Gangotri. Audience: Gomukh, Gomukh.

Gomukh. Ok.

The tremendous trust with which people are living in this area. You can see the power of trust evidently in this great land. Now you guys will understand, why I gave orange robe for everybody. You can see from top to the bottom. In the Yamunotri, completely kavi, orange. And you can clearly recognize, ‘Eh, our guys are there.’ You can feel safe and confident, ‘Our guys are there.’ You can see the practical utility of this orange robe. Actually yesterday night and today morning, two sessions we were not able to have, because of that landslide and three bus got stuck in the Hanumanchatti. Any of you saw that Hanumanchatti, where the.

Devotee: { }

The group which came with me, I showed them, just one hill you will be missing. Just one flame, one plateau.

You had the photographs?

Devotee Yadav: Yeah, I did.

Yes.

So all the three bus they slept in the, all these fellows they slept in the bus itself, it is good experiences. Good experience, these are all nice experiences. Once in a while you should have all these experiences. Otherwise you will, the whole day, you see, your whole life from morning till night, you know ‘what next, what next, what next.’ That is why you become so frozen, you lose the intelligence. You live with so much of frozen ideas, you completely lose the intelligence. You forget to trust the existence. You forget to trust the existence. We forget an important fact that air itself is supplied by existence to us. You think everything is completely under your control. It is good once in a while to live like that.

So that you will know to live a wild life. Otherwise constantly you live with the standard ideas. You become frozen. You are frozen with your house. You are frozen with your car, you are frozen with your wife. You are frozen with your relationships. That is why you live in hell practically. We can’t trust. We can’t open up. That is the big problem; because we think that our logic has got everything under its control. We think our logic has got everything under its, its control. That is the big problem.

Once in a while you should go on the ghoda. Even if you walk, you will not have much fear, because you are under your control. You should go on ghoda and palanquin. Ghoda and palanquin is the right way. Because you are not under your control. You are not under your control. You can’t question him also. Even if the ghoda misses one step or the palanquinwallah misses one step, you can’t question him. Nothing can be done.

It is good once in a while, to live like this with the nature. But all the pain, everything is worth under going, worth going through. If you see that joy, if you; it is worth seeing. This whole thing is worth seeing.

We are sitting in Uttarkashi. Kashi means where Ganga is taking turn towards north, back to Himalayas. Here Ganga is taking turn back to uphill. That is why this place is called Uttarkashi. And one more important thing, this is the place where all the bhootas of Shiva gathered to arrange Shiva’s marriage. This is the place where all the Shiva bhootas gathered to arrange for Shiva’s marriage to go and ask the daughter of Himaraj, Parvati Devi from Himaraj. Himaraj’s son is Parvati Devi. To ask her to get her for Shiva all the bhootas gathered here only.

Tomorrow we will be going to Gangotri. One more thing in the Himalayas, after travelling with so much of difficulty, if you go and see that Yamunotri temple, you will see the small statue of Yamunotri, Yamuna Devi. You will be having, you will be having much bigger statue in your house. What is it mean you know, what does it mean you know, here the goal is not important.

The very path you are travelling itself is enjoying. Understand, here the path is important, not the goal. Enjoy the very travel. If you are thinking that Gangotri, you are going to see much bigger thing, again you will see in Gangotri much smaller statue. What you saw in Yamunotri, that is a good size temple. Now if you go to Gangotri, you will see the same size temple, one small statue of Ganga, that’s all. And same thing in Badri also. In Badri, they will close the temple once in, after three, four months they will close the temple. They will bring everything down to Joshimath. In Kedar also, after three months they will lock the temple and come down. Nothing much you will find there.

It is not the goal, it is the very path which is important, in this yatra, in this trip. Enjoy the path itself. Enjoy the path itself.

You can see the tremendous, tremendous trust in the ghodawallahs and the palaquinwallahs who are living there. This is their life, going up and coming down and they take real good care. See apart from the money which they take, if you see their life. They can easily take away your bags, it is not a big thing for them. You can’t catch them, you can’t run behind them, because they know the complete area. But see the tremendous discipline with which they live.

I can say that trust is life. That is why you feel so much of life energy in them. Life energy, so much of life energy in them. Trust is life energy. I always tell people, whom you trust is not important, the very trust is life energy. The very trust is life energy.

To doubt, you don’t, you don’t need to be intelligent. Any fool can doubt. You can always see whenever you doubt, your lower chakras will be active. That means the mooladhara or the swadishtana, those chakras only will be active, heavy. When you trust, you will see higher chakras will be active. Higher chakras will have the energy. To doubt you don’t need intelligence. Any fool will be doubting. To trust you need intelligence. To trust you need to be intelligent. You need to be courageous, you need to be alive. You need to be living. You need to be bubbling.

Sarada Devi says beautifully, ‘With doubting you may have the outer world, you may be rich.’ We are all rich, much better than, as far as richness is concerned, we are all much better than the ghodawallahs or the palaquinwallahs. We are much better than them, outer world concerned, we are rich; because we constantly doubt, doubt, doubt, doubt, doubt. And go on seeing. The moment we see somebody, we just see, whether this fellow is here to exploit me, we see only with one and half eyes. Whether this fellow is here to take something away from me, whether this fellow is here to. That’s where, that’s the way we see. It pays, we make lot of money. We make luxury, we make comfort, but be very clear you will be living in hell.

Sarada Devi says beautifully, ‘People who trust for no reason, even if you don’t have comforts. Even if you don’t have wealth, they will be living like gods on the planet earth. They will be living like gods on the planet earth.’

I have seen, when people have deep trust, for no reason, miracles start happening in their life. That is what I say, the power to create miracles. The power to create the power of coincidence is trust. It can just make miracles happen around you. Trust is not just a emotion. It is a power! It is a energy!

Understand, doubt is intellect, friendship is emotion. Trust is a energy. I always tell people, when your intellect ripes it becomes intelligence. When your emotion ripes, it becomes love. When your being ripes it becomes trust and enlightenment. The tremendous power when you start experiencing the trust, simply you will see that the whole existence is flowing with you. The whole Universe is flowing with you. The whole Universe is living around you. The universe which is around you is living, not just dead mechanism. Not just dead thing. When these ghodawallahs shout, ‘Jai Mataki!’, you can see that trust really in their eyes. They feel Yamuna is a living energy. They feel Himalayas is a living energy. You can see in their life, in their eyes.

That is why I always tell people, even though this culture is poor economically, but see the tremendous power or the energy of trust being radiated by these individuals. The power of every individual. Amazing emotional strength. Because, one thing, be very clear, at least once in a week or ten days, they lose some of their colleagues. Every ghodawallah loses some of the colleagues. Few people die, usually at least once in ten days or a week, some accident or landslide either ghodas go away or ghodawallahs go away, they go away. They lose their colleagues. But see their trust! Still they are there, running. They can come down and do any business. Any business will be much easier for them, than that. But the tremendous trust and devotion.

Doubt you don’t need intelligence, because that is your nature. Your logic will be always doubting. Whenever you are in low energy, you will be doubting. You can be very clear, you can see in your life, whenever you are in low energy, depressed, you will be doubting. When you are in high energy, suddenly all doubts disappears. Your logic does not ask questions at all. You just feel you are floating. You can see in your own life, when you are in low energy, all sorts of questions come. You start suspecting all of them, person who fit the fan in your room, whether this fan will stay or fall on your head. When you are in high energy, you don’t bother about anything. You just walk. When you are doubting, you can see every bone will be just melting, just tired. You will not even be able to move your hands. When you have trust suddenly you will see your whole body is floating, you are jumping. You are alive. You are just overflowing.

People come and ask me, ‘Swamiji, why don’t you punish people who are doubting you constantly?’ I tell them, ‘Arrey, what punishing, they are already in hell. I have to be sympathetic towards them. The very doubting shows they are in hell, they are suffering. We need to be sympathetic towards them, to lift them, to bring them up. They need sympathy, not punishment.

Because doubt is not from high energy. Doubt is not from integrity. Doubt is not from solidarity. Doubt is not from centeredness. Doubt is from weakness. So he is weak, when somebody is suffering with the doubt, he is in disease. He is troubled. So, all we need is to care for him. To take care of the person. To serve him, to assist him to come up, to come out. I always tell people, doubting may bring wealth, but not life.

Luxury is different. Life is different. Luxury may bring lifestyle to you, but not life itself. Life style is different. Life is different. Life is overflowing energy. Overflowing energy. Actually if you have not seen Himalayas, now you know what you are missing all these days. Now you know what you are missing all these days. Actually after finishing Himalayas, you will have confidence on yourself, that you can do something big. You can really do something big, with your knees, with your back, with your head, you can also do something like this.

But if you live in Himalayas, the being is totally, it will be completely transformed. You will forget that once upon a time you had an identity which was constantly doubting, which was constantly doubting. You should live in Himalayas. To tell you honestly, Himalayas is responsible for my confidence and courage. Just if you see my background, I am hardly a mere boy from a village, nothing more than that.

On the first day itself I think I told you, I had all problems which you had, which you are having. When I say all, I mean all. A L L, which you are having. Whatever you are having, I had. Then how suddenly, the new being came into existence. How this courage and confidence to establish a international movement happened? How so much of energy started expressing through this body? Just because of this Himalayas. This gave me the tremendous courage and confidence. I can say, my backbone was filled with energy by this Himalayas. I was also frozen just like you all, shivering. Constantly doubting every guy, every person, trying to interpret everything with doubt.

Actually, if you are in business, if you are in your profession, doubt pays, nothing wrong. You have to be doubtful otherwise people will take you for granted. But not in life. Your profession is different, your life is different. When you come back to the house, when you remove your coat and drop it in the coat - , when you remove your coat and put in the coat stand, put your doubt also there itself. You can’t be constantly judged. You can be judged in the court, but not in the house.

If you are judged in your house, your wife will be a lawyer.

One person came to me and said, ‘Swamiji, I have a big problem in my house.’ I asked, ‘What is your profession?’ He said, ‘Doctor.” I asked, ‘What is your wife’s profession?’ ‘She is a BA. BL.’ BA. BL means you know lawyer in Bharat. I asked, ‘Does she goes to court?’ ‘No,no, Swamiji, she argues in the house itself.’

If you are judged, your wife will be lawyer. Judging will not do in the life. Judging and doubting will do in the profession. If you are a lawyer, if you are a judge, it’s nice in your profession. It may pay. If you are an accountant, again that is another one problem. Constantly you will be calculating. If any of you are living with a lawyer or judge or an accountant or a philosophy professor, then you will understand, what I am saying. Natarajan is laughing. Gowri is also laughing. No, but Natarajan is not here, ok.

Judge, lawyer, accountant, philosophy professor, very difficult, because they will be constantly judging and analyzing logically. It is literally impossible to live with them. Judging is ok when it comes to the profession. Not in the inner world and all, not in the life. Even in the profession I tell you, when you trust and relax, you will have the tremendous energy overflowing energy, bubbling energy. You can see in your life. Just visualize for five minutes, you are cursing your enemy. And one more thing, your enemy is not so bad or cruel, cruel or crooked as you think. Relax for a few minutes. And just for a few minutes if you think, that your, if you understand, your enemy is not so cruel, or so intelligent or so crooked as you think, he is not such a big threat for your life and relax and trust him, and trust the people with whom you are living, suddenly you will see so much of inner healing happening in you. I can say it is a powerful meditation.

Trusting the existence, people with whom you are living, who you think as your enemy or whom you think as your, what to say, people whom you don’t like or they don’t like you or whatever, just trust them, respect them. Remember them, remember, that they are not so crooked or cruel as you think. They are not such a big threat as you think and just relax, you will see so much of energy flowing in you. So much of life flowing in you. So much of love flowing in you. So much of joy flowing in you. So much of healing effect happening in you. Constantly you feel threatened. That is why you judge. I tell you people who judge, people who doubt, people who can’t trust, they live in Swadishtana, means straight way to cancer and depression.

Swadishtana chakra is the chakra for depression and cancer. They will be living in depression, heading to cancer. Be very clear, Swadishtana is the chakra for depression and cancer. If you are not trusting, if you are constantly doubting, see in your life you will be already living in depression. You will be carrying depression in you. Constantly you will have the tightness near that Swadishtana. Below the Manipuraka, above the Mooladhara, that area, constantly you will be carrying the tightness. If you just touch that area your engrams will be awakened. Just try to touch this area, if you are not able to trust or relax, immediately you will see that your engrams will be awakened! Your painful memories, the engrams will be completely awakened and you will see, you are completely, just pulled into the depression. You are pulled into the low mood. And you are heading towards the cancer.

Depression, depression is directly it will translate into cancer. That is why all the depressed countries you will see the cancer will be too much. Depressed countries will be filled with cancer. See around the world, whichever culture is filled with depression, the proportion of cancer also will be high. Because both are directly connected to Swadishtana. Swadishtana is the; that frozen worry is depression. The tremendous feeling of insecurity. The fear of insecurity is the energy, emotion which locks the Swadishtana. You can see the ghodawallahs, so much of trust, so much of life. I can be 100% sure, not a single ghodawallah will die in cancer. Not a single fellow will have depression in his life. He may not have money. He may not have wealth. He doesn’t need actually. What are you going to do? What are you going to do with your wealth? He doesn’t need. He doesn’t need that.

Whenever I come to Himalayas, I always feel tempted to be here itself. It is such a ecstasy and joy. Independent individual life. Nobody will know you are a Shiva bhoota. Nobody will know you and just lie down somewhere, eat somewhere, sleep somewhere. Here food is also not costly. Food is very cheap. And if you are wearing these clothes completely top, below and if you put on both robes, you don’t even have to buy, they will give you. Go and stand near some shops they will give you some fruits. They will give you some fruits, really. Any of you tested. Any of you got any namaskaar or money?

OH! you got money, Oh God! Already some four people.

Devotee: Ten rupees.

Ten rupee! Oh God ! ohoo?

Devotee: I got namaskaar.

Namaskaar? Oh, God! Then?

Devotee: Twice yesterday, they gave money.

Twice yesterday, they gave money, Oh God ! and then. Namaskaar.

You got namaskaar?

See, you see, they don’t even know your background. Just this cloth. See the respect. See that culture. That is why I tell you. Nine years I was in this land. Not once I stretched my hand for food. Not even once I stretched my hand for food. It just came. It just came. Straightaway it came. It came. I had. I only had to pick up. Not to ask, I have to pick up which food I will take, which food I will eat.

That is why I say it is a spiritual incubator. This culture is a spiritual incubator. This country is a spiritual incubator. They don’t even know you, who you are. Simply they do namaskaar. Just because of this cloth. Then understand the value for this tradition. Forget about without talking to you. If you talk some philosophy, just ordinary words, ‘God is everything. Sarvatmame. Sabki Mayaa.’ Just few words. Then understand the respect you will have.

That is the greatness of this culture! The simple trust! The simple trust. I tell you to doubt you don’t need intelligence. To have this trust only you need intelligence. To have this trust only you need energy, confidence and courage. To doubt you need to be weak. To trust you need to be confident, you need to be courage, courageous. At least, forty fifty people have received namaskaars. Now, practically they have all become mahatmas now. They all have become now…

Audience: {in Tamil.}

-- We all have become now mahatmas and such big, big rudrakshaas.

Audience: Not only one, two, three.

Rudrakshaa, this kavi.

Audience: in Tamil. Devotee Peter: Swamiji, first you should know {..audio not clear… } that my bag showed up. My bag showed up. Audience: { . audio not clear. } Audience: He found his bag.

That which was lost. What did they tell you? Where it was? Audience: It was found somewhere in the room.

Devotee: …

Please stand up and narrate. Tell. Tell. Let everybody know.

Devotee Yadav: I think everyone knows about..

Take the mike. What was the statement I made? Tell that statement very clearly.

Devotee Yadav: I think most of you all know about Peter’s bag missing which happened somewhere in Rishikesh.

Worthy of?

Devotee Yadav: It was worth about four and half lakhs. Devotee Peter: It is very valuable. It is worth about six to eight thousand in Canadian dollars. Devotee Yadav: And we tried to get in touch with that, the ashrams there and in fact we also sent money through one of the in charges to Rishikesh to check the place. He went there and he couldn’t find it. And, more than the bag very importantly. The bag is very important for his shoes. It has come all the way prepared from Canada. Devotee Peter: { . audio not clear. } Devotee Yadav: Yeah, it has got everything .. { . audio not clear. } Devotee Yadav: And we were waiting. Didn’t know what to do. So, first time we mentioned this to the Swamiji, he said, ‘You will get it!’ We didn’t get even after they went with the money to the place checked and he came back. And today, I stated whole thing to Swamiji and I wanted Peter to get it somehow. Swamiji just kept quiet for one or two seconds and said, ‘Don’t worry, you will get it.’ And the minute we landed here, Peter got the information that the bag was not found in Rishikesh. It is here. It has already landed here.

What was the word I told, just repeat that statement.

‘How you will get I don’t know, today you will have it!’ That was the word I told you. The very word I told, ‘How you will get I don’t know.’ And Yadav knows my mood, when I, when I made those statements. I think he would have seen this second time, first time, when that lorry was moved.

Understand, it is not by me. The tremendous trust. Tremendous trust. The Peter’s trust. And Yadav knows when I made some statements, the mood and the scene. Noon time, noon, Yadav was telling, ‘Swamiji, it was not found in any of the Rishikesh or anywhere. I just closed the eyes and turned and said, ’How you will get I don’t know. What will happen, I don’t know.’ And I made one more statement. ‘Let’s have a miracle! Let’s have a miracle! Lets have fun and miracle. You will see today it will be there. I will get it!’ And this very word, with a deep strong voice.

Devotee Yadav: I knew it. I knew it that you will get.

Immediately you know and immediately I know that your eyes the confidence which came and you said, ‘Now I should tell Peter.’

Devotee Yadav: And I told Peter, ‘don’t worry, you will get it’, I said. Devotee Ramanathan: Swami, Last night, when we got the message that three buses were stuck. That came in about 11:30. So Ayyah and I talked and we sent the person. That was ok. I was sure that whatever it was, I had to be.....that will happen. Then suddenly I remembered before I came Mukku had told me that there was a lady having a very high bIood pressure. So I was about to go to sleep, I couldn’t sleep. I got up I went to Ayyah and told him that ‘Look I am worried, this lady is in this state…. Whatever it is I feel it is important that Swamiji be told. So then we woke up and told You. You said, ‘Don’t worry, everything will be alright. Actually she was already here. I didn’t know that. { audio not clear for few words..} And Subbalakshmi was actually in another bus, the sixth bus. She was in my bus, she had gone and sat there. Normally I would have, she said that the bus was in a odd place or whatever. I got pretty rough with her. I said, ‘You better get down and get into that bus. Who gave you permission to go to that bus.’ She came and in the morning I was telling her. I don’t even know why I said that. She cried and she came, otherwise she would have been….

I understand, I understand.

This is the word, I told I think to Yadav when Yadav said that, Yadav was very, ‘I asked money to enquire the in-charge guy. He said all the places we checked. Everywhere we checked, it is not found. It will not be, it is lost Swamiji.’ Yadav also said, ‘It is lost!’

Then I smiled at Yadav and said, ‘Let’s have a miracle! Today we will have it. Today we will have it!’ Be very clear. And I told one more thing to Yadav, ‘How we will get we don’t know. I also don’t know. That is the same word I told. How you will get. How it will come, that all those things I don’t know. But you will have it.

Devotee Yadav: My only shock is it landed here. Devotee: How it came? Devotee Yadav: I don’t know who got. It just landed here.

How? How it landed? Enquire! It was in Bus number 1. How it got in bus number one.

Devotee Yadav: It was on the roof terrace. Yesterday we did not cover the tarpal properly. So, today we told him to cover properly. He said, ‘there is one more bag here, can I give it?’, he said.

And bus number one was no way connected to you.

Devotee Yadav: One was not connected.

One was no way connected to you. You were connected only to two and five.

Devotee Peter: I was in five. I checked all the buses. I went and checked all the buses.

Nothing else. And you checked all the buses?

Devotee Peter: All the buses were checked. I checked everywhere.

No, whenever you come to Himalayas, we have fun like this. This time we had fun with our Peter, so that we can record and put the whole thing. Alright!

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Which area? Alright, we will find out and take the action.

Devotee: We had to stop the bus and get out of the bus and get in the bus., ……{ . audio not clear. }…

Alright. Anyhow you had a good experience and

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Whose letter it is?

Devotee Ramanathan: Shinde!

Oh. Yes. Surely we will have. We will have to.

Devotee Mukku: Swamiji, another beautiful incident last night. We requested for a place to sleep. We were all stuck in the bus stand. So few of us were just sleeping in somebody’s house verandah, porch we call. Four of us lying down. Two of us were chit chatting. We were talking something and people in the house heard us. And we were all sleeping with this cloth and all, we were covered with this cloth. So one lady opened the door and she said, ‘’Sadhu log hai’, and then she went and slept. No doubt. We were sleeping in her house porch. She just opened, saw the cloth and then she said, some sadhu log.

Sadhus are sleeping.

See the respect! South Bharatn fellows understand. South Bharatn fellows should learn first! Just the, just because of this cloth what tremendous respect you are receiving, here!

I always tell people, nine years I was here, never suffered for food. In any other country I would have been called as a homeless and put in the homeless shelter. Psychologically depressed. They would have been constantly advising me to do something useful. Here I was sitting with closed eyes and meditating, meditating, meditating. Neither I was contributing something to society, nor I was studying to contribute. Nothing! Just sitting with closed eyes, meditating, meditating, meditating, saying I am thinking of I am meditating and I am working for enlightenment and this culture gave me food, clothing, shelter with respect. Understand, with respect. Not the disrespect. Here they will not give food after eating. For sadhus, they will first keep only then they will eat. They will give only the fresh food. That is the culture. For the people who are outside Bharat, for them it will be new. Even for the people who are from South Bharat, this will be new.

Devotee.. { . audio not clear. }

As Mukku says, just Mukku, Tamil Nadu …{Swamiji in Tamil…}

Devotee Mukku: I grew up in South. I have never seen this trust, respect and all, there. Never seen.

{Tamil..}

Devotee: Tamil.. { . audio not clear. }

I am saying, actually yesterday one of our devotee he was sleeping outside a house in the verandah with this cloth, there. One lady opened the door and saw and said, ‘Oh, sadhu is sleeping. One sadhu is sleeping’, and she went away. Did not bother to disturb them. She allowed them to be there. I am telling, in some parts, the southern parts and all. Of course, I do not want to talk much about Bharat’s other side also. Forget about it. Ok. Anyhow.

Devotee: { . audio not clear. }

Who else was there around? Only Yadav was there.

Devotee: I was there. I didn’t know the context, but I heard all the words. I don’t know how it will come. It will come.

‘I don’t know how it will come. It will come. You will have it.’ And I made another one statement, ‘Let’s have a miracle.’ I said, ‘Let’s have fun, let’s have a miracle.’

Devotee: Swamiji, but teleporting. { . audio not clear. }

What?

Devotee: …. We had lunch and we were one of the last ones to go out. { . audio not clear. }

Yay, don’t tell stories. Relax. Now all of them are coming with lot of stories.

Devotee: He is saying, he saw You and suddenly…{ . audio not clear. }

Some ten fellows are there

Devotee: { in Tamil…}

Who all were witness for that story?

Yolanda, then. Peter, then. Yadav, then. Alright? Anyhow, nice.

We have lot of stories in Himalayas. Once this Shanmugam, in Gomukh. In Gomukh, Gomukh it will be much difficult path. The pony, the horse fell in the street, suddenly he saw a hand in the kavi, a hand which was covered by the kavi cloth lifted the horse and left it on the road and went away, disappeared. Only the hand.

And behind this, no this, your brother, na? Behind, whose bag that suddenly there was a poster?

Devotee: {{ in Tamil }

His brother, his brother.

Devotee: {{ Tamil }

His brother in Yamunotri, last time, again he also fell, the ghoda fell. The ghodawallah is shouting, ‘I can either catch ghoda or the man. I can’t catch both!’ He was shouting. This fellow is shouting. The ghoda is slipping and going. This fellow is shouting Nithyananda, he was shouting Nithyananda.

That guy says suddenly somebody has lifted and put the horse and this fellow both in the track and tied it in the back. When he came down and saw there was a sticker of Nithyananda in the bag. From where the sticker came we don’t know. And usually the sticker which we use in the cars. And not a single sticker was brought to Himalayas. That we use only in Bharat, only for the cars.

Good. Good to listen to some of these stories. No, these, one more thing, once the last time. Alright, later on Yadav can. Witnesses should share the story. Only then it will be nice. Somebody asked me, ‘Swamiji, these are all miracles by you?’ I tell them, ‘No’. These are all opportunities created for you to; you see you can take these incidents in two ways. Either you can say, ‘Ah, coincidence, forget about it. Drop!’ Or you can use these incidents to awaken the trust in you. This can be used as a technique for meditation. This can be used to awaken the trust in you, or this can be just brushed and put in the trash of ‘Ahh, coincidence.’ These are all coincidence. Both the way you can use. It is upto you. Constantly the opportunity or the techniques to awaken the, to awaken your trust is created in the presence of the Master.

I always tell people, the bag coming itself is not a big miracle. The Peter having the trust is a miracle. For that only this incident. The result of this incident is not bag coming back. Peter having the trust. Now Peter will be transformed. You see the bag itself is hardly two three lakh worth. Eight thousand dollar. It is not a big thing. If it is lost, his life is not lost, but the trust which he got will transform his whole life.

The bag is nothing much worthy. The trust is the real worthy thing. The bag, anywhere you will get, what is there. After all you can get one more bag. But trust. I always tell people, to create the trust, these are all techniques to awaken the trust. This is what I call the lila. The lila, which happens in the Master’s presence.

The other day, suddenly big racket started, all over the world, in my photograph vibhooti is coming and kumkum is coming and all. When they came and reported me, first thing I said. The first thing I said, I just made fun and laughed at it and said, ‘Fools, it must be dust, tell them to clean it.’ The second day again they brought, ‘No, no, no, Swamiji, it is coming every day. Now kumkum also started coming.

It seems somebody, first the vibhooti, first that guy, was not feeling well, he asked for vibhooti. Then he had the dream that, dream of me saying that, ‘You will have the vibhooti, tomorrow I will give you vibhooti and you will become alright.’

Then vibhooti came from photograph and he took it and applied and he became alright. And, then he said, ‘Can I give it for everybody?’ he asked. Again he had the dream of me and then he had the command, ‘You can give it for everybody, you can use it no problem.’ And he started giving for all his relatives. Some relative who came commented, ‘Only vibhooti will come, kumkum won’t come or what?’ That day again he had the dream, ‘Tomorrow, kumkum will also come’, and it started coming. And then, when the news was brought to me, first thing I said, I just tried to make fun. Then again, they started asking, ‘No, no, Swamiji, tell us the fact.’

When a deep trust happens, between the Master and disciple, the tremendous energy transformation starts happening, the miracles starts happening, and unexpected things starts happening. I can say, trust is a plan for miracles. Trust is a plan for miracles. Miracles are not accident. You can make it as a incident when you trust. Trust is the material which you need, for those miracles to happen. Not, not only just in the ordinary way, even in the inner transformation, the samskaraas, the engrams with which you are suffering for years. Just trust and drop you will see simply it disappears. Just the trust of the Master can take away, swallow the engrams with which you are suffering for years. With which you are suffering for years.

When I said, to that devotee who brought the photographs and showed me, I said, ‘If you, all the thing to be understood in this is because I am not using this body, Parashakti is using this body and giving vibhooti, kumkuma and all those things. In your case also, if you stop using your body, from your photo also vibhooti will come. Otherwise only dust will come. If you are using your body, from your photo only dust will come. If you stop using your body, if you allow the Parashakti, the Divine to use your body, in your photo also the same thing will happen. That’s all. Nothing else. When you relax, simply the Divine will works through you. Nothing else.

Ashramites, few of them started collecting these incidents. Then they said, ‘It is impossible to collect, because everyday something is happening, Swamiji.’ What to collect and what to write and what to read. And, in the Ashram whether it is a laptop or computer, or whatever is not working, they will come to me only. The great computer engineers like a Ram Ramanathan, the great intellectuals, CEO of the software company brings his laptop and, ‘Swamiji, it is not working.’

Devotee: No that was true. This happened when I was in the acharya training.

Loud. Little loud. Have this. I will also listen.

Devotee Ramanathan: This happened when I was in acharya training. And then, Swami, I don’t know for some whatever reason, said, I am his Mahacharya, and whatever rubbish (?), so I became Mahacharya there and I was coordinating getting all the material for them and that was my job. So I had filled up my laptop with almost, forty, fifty pages, this thing. And this belonged to Ramya who is in the ashram, most of the time. Ramanathan’s daughter. And, suddenly Ramya came to me and said, ‘Your computer is gone. The hard disk is crashed and it is not booting up. So we both work on it for some time. And we tried everything that we knew. She is a good engineer and I am fairly familiar with computers. Nothing happened. So I told her, ‘Ok. there’s no problem, let’s take it to Swamy and it will work.’ She said, ‘Ok’, and we both just went. We were sitting {…audio not clear..}. We gave it to Swami and said this is not working. He took it there gave it a pat on both sides and gave it back. So as we walked out of the this thing and I told Ramya, ‘Now immediately take the backup disks of whatever it is. I want it immediately of all the material whatever it is.’ She said, ‘What about only your material, I want my material also’, she started fighting with me. Anyway we came back and we took the hard disk and we kept it safe. Then the people who were sitting in this thing said, ‘Swami called.’ They said, ‘Swami is calling you.’ So, all these people who were also in the acharya training also, they said, ‘We can’t believe you believe this.’

I said, I have no doubt and I really had no doubt. When I took the computer to Him and I knew it would work after He touched it and it worked.

They said, ‘we don’t believe it.’ That is the actual truth and the computer is working till today. And it was completely crashed. I have touched it so many times, there’s absolutely no doubt about it, and it was not something that could be rectified by any normal mechanical means.

I tell them even computers can be healed. Even computers can be healed.

Devotee Mukku: Swamiji, this example where the computer started working. There was a thought that we should back up?’

In me, there was no thought we should back up. To tell you honestly, what I do when I heal or when I do these type of things. I just relax and touch them or being in that area. See, only whenever you feel, your boundary ends here, you separate yourself from existence. So whenever I am talking to you now, I am using a light one line of that I. Like a one bamboo floating in the Ganges. When a bamboo floats in the Ganges you say right side Ganga, left side Ganga. If you take away that bamboo, can you say, ‘Right side Ganga, left side Ganga?’ No. Only one Ganga. Same way as long as you have the idea this is your boundary, man and Divine, the existence and you separate. When I use this one line I, I keep a little bit, where there is no other way to activate this body and to talk to you and to have the, to move this body little bit properly. Whenever I do healing or this type of any energy work, I just relax from that. Simply things starts happening. When the boundary disappears, the computer and me, the boundary is not there, both becomes one and the same. Just how this is alive, that becomes alive, that’s all. When the boundary disappears, how this body is alive, same way that becomes alive, that’s all. Nothing more.

Devotee: Swamiji, .. {in Tamil}

You think other chakras, acharyas sit there? If acharyas sit there nothing will happen.

I was thinking, actually today morning, why yesterday and today morning’s sessions have been cancelled. Never happened. Because it never happens, we never lose a session. Yesterday night’s session, today morning’s session got cancelled. Then I thought suddenly one story came to my mind.

In Tamil Nadu, there is a great place called Chidambaram, Shiva temple. In that temple, all the scriptures, traditional scriptures were stored and it was never opened for thousands of years. Those priests were adamant saying that, ‘If the authors come back and ask, only then we will give you.’ How can authors come back, they passed away ten thousand years ago. How can they come back? How to open? And finally, the king gave up the hope of opening and having the scriptures. One saint came to that place and said, let us create the idols of all the authors, four authors. They created the idols. When the idols were brought in the procession, the priest saw, they in that ecstasy, they forgot themselves and said, ‘Oh, all the four authors are coming!’ Then the saint said, ‘Out of your mouth you said, they are authors. Not idols. Now open the door. Get the books out!’ And when they opened the door, eighty percent of books were eaten by the white ants. Only twenty percent was left. Then when the king started weeping, ‘Oh God, eighty percent of the scriptures is lost, only twenty percent is there. What happened?’ When king wept, Shiva appeared and said, ‘Whatever Kali can, this modern age people can receive, digest that much I left, all other things I destroyed.‘

And the story says, only when a person becomes receptive, truths can come out of the Master’s mouth. Maybe, He was waiting, the Divine was waiting for the group to get solidified. If you live in this area and breathe this air for few days, see even if you inhale and exhale in America you will put on weight. You don’t need to do much, just breathe and water. Inhale and exhale, you will put on weight. Same way in this area, if you just inhale and exhale, your being will be filled with trust. Your being will get purified. So much of spiritual energy, so much of spiritual vibration, so much of pure thoughts and the energy exists in this area, maybe we need to be here one or two days to get solidified to receive the truths or the experiences which I wanted to speak. Maybe that’s the reason, you were not able to have yesterday and today’s, today morning’s program.

Devotee: Swamiji { . audio not clear. }.

You can sit and share.

Devotee: Actually, in Koviloor, I met one Swamiji. He told me when you wear this kavi and go to house all other purpose in your house will get harmed.

Frightened?

Devotee: Yes. I want to be harmless to everybody. So how this can be avoided?

This is a nice important question. Not Koviloor, ma, Dayananda Swamy told. Dayananda Swamy told in the lecture. Now you brought a very controversial thing. I can neither criticize, because I respect him for his age and knowledge. I can neither accept his idea. In that case even your existence can hurt somebody.

Devotee Ramanathan: I wanted to argue with him Swamiji.

No we should not argue. We are guests there. We went there to respect him. We should no way, we have no right to argue. One thing be very clear, in that case, even if you exist, people can be hurt, then what can be done. Then where is the question of your integrity, what you want to do. How can you do then? See, be very clear, one thing, hurting, interfering in their will. Saying he should not wear orange is the hurting, violence. You wearing and living your life can never be violence. Be very clear. How can that be violence? How can that be violence? Then I being a Hindu can be violent to Muslim, then what can I do?

He will be hurt by me being a Hindu. He can say, ‘Why are you Hindu? Why are you Hindu Swamy? Come and become Muslim! Because I am now, I am hurt because you are a Hindu. What to do about that? tell me, what to do?’ Logically this can also he said, na, A Muslim can say, ‘You are being a, you being a Hindu is hurting me?’ What to do? So now nothing can be done. Telling the other person, you should not wear or you should wear is the violence. You wearing or not wearing out of your independence can never be violence. Can never be violence. Do not worry about that.

Devotee: {.. in Tamil….}

She is so happy that she was able to get into the horse and it won’t come back. Horse came back. No in Mukku’s case, horse came back. In her case, she came back is the miracle. In Mukku’s case, horse came back, that is the miracle. I saw Mukku on the horse, I got frightened. Mukku eats so much!

Anyhow.

Devotee Ramanathan: Actually, Ahimsa, if you tell that you have to wear kavi and stop from wearing, already you are saying …. words…{ audio not clear}

So, I can say, see, we should respect elders, and I do not want to. And moreover, he also did not mean any wrong way. Just casually went in.

See understand, when you talk, you talk some words very casually without any chilly behind it. So, I don’t think he had any chilly behind it; behind his words. Because he was so respectful. The one more thing, please understand, we did not fix appointment earlier and all. Only one day ahead we asked, Swamiji. He is too busy with his routine. He is not very free person or he doesn’t have any any work. Just one day ahead we rang up and asked. Even I did not speak in phone. Secretary spoke in the phone. Immediately Swamy said, ‘Surely I will see him. I will spend some time with all of them. Please tell them to come.’

So I don’t think, Swamiji has, Swamiji was very loving and caring on the way and moreover he came to our ashram, he spent lot of time with us and he calls me for all his programs and in every way. So it is not with any. It is just a casual comment, passing comment. And, I can say, it is like a, only when you feel as a your own group, you pass this type of statements. If you think that it is somebody else, opposite person, you will not speak like this. You will speak casually only when you are. See, only with intimate person or with whom I feel intimate, I use singular word. With others, with outsiders, I never speak in any singular way. I will speak only in plural, the politically polite and show socially polite. So his words is something like a our own family. So he just made a remark or a joke. It is just more or less like a joke. So, you don’t have to be offended by it. It is nothing wrong.

Devotee: Coming back to the bus, Swami. And then … { audio not clear}

Yes. Nice, lot of stories. Actually if you start allowing people to share stories, I will not have time to speak. Each one has got some five, six stories, na. Each one is having at least five, six stories.

Devotee : {.. in Tamil..}

Actually, I came and asked you. See one thing, like this the trust and spiritual things I will never become angry. The people who come and just unnecessarily, ‘Oh, this is not working, Swami. That is not working Swami. And who are just wasting time, with which can never be repaired. There are some things which cannot be repaired. It is already. Only there I get heated and say, ‘Get lost!’

Devotee: { Tamil..}

The power of thought. The power of intention.

It is an ecstasy and joy to be in Himalayas, in this area. Here we can see, the lifestyle also, people are not very caught up or, very easy going. If you work, work. If you are sitting, sit. No problem. Nobody judges others. And nothing is valuable. Today this building will be there, tomorrow it may not be there. We don’t know. Simply, it will not be there. Same Uttarakashi, did you all see that, there was some landslide on the other side. Forty fifty buildings was there. I myself have seen. First year when we came we all same. Second year when we came, it was not there. The whole hotel. So people are not much continuously judging others and all those things. It is all just flowing like a Ganga, that’s all. Nothing but flow, of Ganga.

The path itself is the goal here. There is separate, nothing like, there is nothing like separate goal, after we reach. The path itself is the joy. That itself is the goal.

Devotee: { in Tamil..}

Alright. { more words from Swamiji in Tamil..}

This place is the place of Shiva bhootas, Shiva ganas. The definition of Shiva gana is, all they know is they trust Shiva and they do whatever Shiva says and just live happily, that’s all. That is the definition of Shiva bhootas. All they know is we know Shiva and we do what he says, that’s all. There is no other thing. So they are called Shiva’s elements, bhootas. Bhoota means not just ghosts, part of Shiva. Shiva’s elements.

Peter now you should be de, lower graded to bus number one. And how he waited for the word, you will get it. ah?

First time, when we came to Himalayas, suddenly in one place our bus was stopped and blocked by lorry. Opposite direction. Filled with the cement load. These guys all get down and they started telling the lorry wallah to move and that fellow is saying, ‘No, I will not move. I will not move the lorry. And the crane has to come.’ That will take half a day and that means, practically next ten hours you will not be able to go, travel. And all these fellows are shouting at him and even, they even offered to him, ‘We will unload all the cement bag and then move the lorry side and then load it and give you.’ He said, ‘No the clutch has gone. The clutch plate has broken. Vehicle cannot be moved.’ And these fellows they came to me. I was sitting in the bus. I said alright, let’s have some fun. Got down. Went near the bus, went near that lorry, just sat there. Nothing else. And that. No, no, no, not on that lorry.

Below, there was a small wall. On that I sat. And I was talking to Yadav only. ‘Yadav what to do?’ And there were two other, two three other guys and these guys were shouting and you guys were all fighting with him, na? Fighting with him and practically wanted to beat him. I said, no, no, no. Don’t do, Relax. Wait. I just smiled.

Suddenly one man with a big vibhooti and kumkum appeared, out of the blue and said, ‘Yay, move the lorry!’ And the driver, he said, ‘No, I will not move.’ Then he said, ‘My vehicle is also behind. Move the lorry!’ And he simply got into the driver’s cabin. Because he got in the driver’s cabin, driver got frightened and got into the driver’s cabin. And he said, ‘Move.’ Simply the driver started, vehicle got started. What happened to clutch plate, nothing. Simply vehicle started moving, moved out. And this guy came down, the guy who suddenly appeared, came down. Touched my feet and said, ‘Baba, now you can go’. And simply literally he disappeared! Literally he disappeared! In front of twenty, twenty five guys! Twenty five guys have seen, na.

Devotee Yadav: Yes. The whole bus was there.

The whole bus was there. Literally he disappeared! Two second. Literally disappeared! Where he went nobody knows. Because he did not go this way, we were all standing there.

Devotee Yadav: We went searching also.

We went searching and actually, because the lorry moved, we were all just shouting, ‘Yay, Gangamaya Ki Jai!’ We were shouting. Just we turned and saw, he is not there. Somebody is telling he went into that valley and then all these guys started going near the valley and started seeing. Valley nothing is there. Steep! And nobody can go there. If he can go into the valley, it must be God! Nobody else can go into that valley. Literally disappeared. And he said his vehicle is behind. We searched, no vehicle is there behind. There is no vehicle behind.

Devotee Yadav: No vehicle.

No vehicle. Literally disappeared. The whole group was shocked. Somebody can literally disappear in front of twenty five, thirty people. I think the whole bus was down, standing?

Devotee Yadav: Part of the bus was down. Rest of them were sitting.

Sitting in the bus but watching.

Devotee Yadav: Watching.

Watching the whole incident.

Devotee Yadav: Watching the whole drama.

Watching the whole drama. Literally disappeared and we tried to search whether Yadav photographed him. We couldn’t get his photograph. We couldn’t get his photograph at all, na. We wanted to have his photograph. We couldn’t take his photograph. Yadav does this every moment but somehow we missed that moment. And that fellow, hardly five ten minutes only he was there.

Devotee Yadav: Yes.

And neither front, nor back he was there. We all started running. I told Yadav, ‘Yay, run and catch him, catch him.’ Yadav ran one side. Chennayya ran other side. Some all five six people ran all over. Simply not there. Just we put three Jai! In that three Jai time he disappeared, nothing else. Gangamaya Ki Jai. Vishwanath Ki Jai! Sadguru Maharaj Ki Jai! He is not there. In that three Jai how much distance he can cross? And only one road, there was no other house or anything to disappear. It is a dense, dense forest.

Mysteries. But he literally disappearing only there we saw. Simply not there.

Devotee Yadav: Just vanished. Vanished in thin air!

And vanishing word can never be understood unless you see that type of incidents. Because, ten fifteen people and all of us are just standing and he just came and touched my feet and said, ‘Baba, you can go now.’ We just wanted to thank him. So he just, by the time we put the Jai and saw, ‘Yay where is he, where is he, call him, call him. Let’s thank him.’ He is not there. He did not go in that lorry also. He got down and came. After the lorry moved he got down and came and touched the feet. So.

Devotee: { in Tamil}

Oh, you were also there na. He was also there. From where he came also we do not know.

Devotee: {in Tamil..}

From where he came, from where he left, to where he left we do not know.

Oh, Sarita is here. Come, come, come. Sit, ma. Sit ma. How is your program? Sit, sit.

Trust is not foolishness as we think. We always think trust is something like a blind faith or foolishness. Be very clear, we always think trust is only something like a if we have trust, we think that we will be cheated or a gullible quality, that you will be gullible. Be very clear, only with doubt you can be easily gullible. Just if somebody satisfied your logic, you can, you will be made to do anything. You can be made to do anything. Person with logic, with doubt, can be easily cheated. But never a person with trust.

You can never cheat an Bharatn villager. Go to a village farmer. You can never cheat him. He will be ten time more powerful and strong and intelligent than you. You can never cheat him. It will be very difficult to cheat him. But a educated guy can be easily cheated.

Devotee Usha: Swami, I always get confused, that in those kind of situations like yesterday also, bus got stuck. So we accept the situation, ‘ok there is some reason, that is why it is happening. Just accept it and move on to the next one. Ok, what next we can do. Or just get down and fight with them?

Ah, ah yes. Now, I will answer. Let the power come. I will answer this question, ma. This is one of the important question all seekers face.

Devotee Usha: Because like this actually I got down and I started doing like eating something and Abhishek had asked me, what, what are you doing here. We are all trying to do and fight with them and try to go out. You are just sitting here and eating. I just accepted that for some reason it is happening, so I am just accepting that, that’s it.

Now I will answer this question. This is one of the important thing.

Ay, all of you sit, let just one or two persons let them move. All don’t move.

{{Swamiji in Tamil to Ayyah..}}

Tomorrow’s program I am saying. Please understand. All of you are able to hear.

Audience: Yes.

I will just move and let him hold the mike…you will be able to hear properly. That is the way to connect.

Tomorrow morning we will all be gathering here six O’clock to have a discourse and nine O’clock we will start from here to reach Gangotri, one O’ clock. From there bus stand to the temple we will have a procession.

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Alright. When we reach Gangotri bus stand, from bus stand to the temple we will go in the procession with Venkateshwara and have darshan in Ganga, Gangotri temple. And there we will have a pooja and homa, arathi and energy darshan and a discourse. We will be having tomorrow. This will be tomorrow’s program.

Now I will be answering an important question from Usha. She asked, Swamiji in that type of situations, like a yesterday, difficult situations, should we fight or accept and relax. It is a very major controversy we will face. Let me tell you what happened in this very lorry incident itself. All these guys were fighting and shouting at the driver. When I got down and went there, I also shouted at him, ‘Yay, what are you doing? Chalo!’ I saw he was shouting much more than me. Then I saw nothing can be done. I went and sat on the wall. Just relaxed.

First thing, always put your effort, whatever you can do. When you feel that’s all I can’t do anymore, relax ! That’s all. If you just relax, maybe you will be justifying your laziness many time. Do not do that and do not go to the extreme where you become violent or where you will be agitated. See to the limit where you are not be agitated, put your effort. The moment you get agitated, perturbed, see then, it is not your game now. Now your game is over. Sit. Till you get irritated or agitated, put your effort. When you are agitated then you say, ‘Now my effort is over. Relax.’ That is the method.

Understand these two. One put your effort till you get irritated or agitated, till you feel it is your boundary. When you feel agitated or irritated you know now this is your boundary, then just sit and relax. Accept your situation. Have a cup or coffee or coke, that’s all. That’s all. Nothing else.

I was giving an introduction day before yesterday. Day before yesterday or two days ago?

Audience: Two days ago.

Two days ago. In Rishikesh. It feels like we are practically finished. We have only fourth day. We have only fourth day. We have seen everything of Himalayas now. One night sleeping in the bus and road slide, land slide. We have seen everything.

If you guys can come down little bit, you will have little space for people to walk. Come down. People inside the hall please move little. Back up. Back up and people who are sitting in the steps come down. One, one step, just one one step come down. Two step, one step if you come down, you will give place for them to walk. Come down little more, so that I can also see you all. There are some who I am not able to see.

Devotee: Swamiji, you said you will be sharing your experience about your enlightenment..

Not only enlightenment, ma. From birth to enlightenment. From my birth to enlightenment, this is the theme of this trip. All my spiritual experiences. Actually, I am just waiting to start by itself. Maybe, it is making you all solid so that you will all receive. See, whenever people ask me about my spiritual experiences, I always postpone. Why you know? If you are in the mood of doubting, it will not be useful. You will be just rejecting it. If you are in the mood of little bit of believing, it will be only one more story for you. But if you are in the mood of seeking, in a deep search, my stories will be an inspiring stories for you to take the jump.

Devotee: Thank You, Swamiji.

Inspiring to take the jump. So I am just waiting till the seeking starts happening in you. Maybe He is waiting for the seeking to start happening in you. Otherwise to get this type of stuff, this kind of stuff out of my mouth is very difficult. I easily escape. Oh, how are you? Things are going well? Doing, everything is going well? How is your business? All these things I will talk. Never talk about. I always try to wait, so that these stories will not be wasted, it will become a technique to make you, to inspire you to take the quantum jump. It will help you to take the quantum jump.

Devotee Mukku: Swamiji, on trust. One story where that monk { audio not clear.} goes to the forest with the horse, and once the evening comes, he puts a camp. Does he tie the horse or trust the existence?

First thing, if he can tie the horse why can’t he tie. See tie the horse and trust the existence. For what, what you know. The horse should not die. It should not run away. For that you trust the existence. The Tying you can do. Tying you can do. Whatever you can do by your effort do it. Then simply relax. Beyond your reach relax into the existence. That’s what we say in three way things.

Bahubala, buddhibala, daivabala. Bahubala means physical health. What you can do with physical strength, do it. For anything to happen, these three is necessary. Physical strength, mental strength and divine strength. Whatever you can do by physically do it. Whatever you can do by mentally, do it. Beyond that there is a third energy necessary for that to become successful. Spiritual strength. Leave that in that zone, Trust! That’s all. Nothing can be done. Even if you want, nothing can be done. But whatever can be done physically and mentally, you should be able to do it. You cannot justify your laziness. You did not tie the horse properly how can you justify? That cannot be justified. Whatever you can physically directly do it, mentally directly, do it. But there are extraordinary situations, even in that kind of trust, even what you can do physically, if you don’t do also simply the Divine will intervene. That is, there are situations. But the real devotees do not ask Divine to do all these small, small work. They themselves will do whatever they can. The other things, which they can’t do, they leave it for Divine.

Devotee Ramanathan: Story of Ganga…

Story of Ganga, ahh. Metaphysical story of Ganga, God! Last time I told in Uttarkashi only.

Devotee: .{ . audio not clear..}

It can never be repeated, na.

Devotee: { audio not clear..}

It is actually, see those things are all not stories. Experiences! Even the lion story, it is not story. By word, the experience is transmitted. Whoever was receptive and open, you can see everybody felt that story is for them. Everybody felt that story is specially told for them. Specially for them. So it is not just a word or a story. It is something much deeper than the story. These are experiences. The Ganga story also is an experience.

Actually that was my journey, I connected with Ganga’s journey and completely. It could not even be transcribed, na. Even transcription also, the original sense. Did you see it and transcribe it.

Devotee: {audio not clear}

From video also it can’t be transcribed. It was a experience. How the Ganga came to planet earth.

People should be aware of Ganga’s biography and my biography both, only then that story can be understood.

That is why Shankara says, blessed are those if they can have even few minutes, seconds of trust on Guru or on God. Even few seconds if we can trust and relax. Suddenly you will see so much of inner healing happening in you. So much of energy flowing in you. Millions of haunting doubts will disappear. Millions of haunting doubts will disappear in your being.

About the Mukku’s question, whether he will tie the horse or trust the existence.

There is a story, Ramakrishna says, there was a devotee who used to always travel with a big knife. Somebody asked him, ‘Why are you travelling always with a knife?’ This guy said, if I find three people, I wanted to kill them! That is why I am carrying this knife.’ This person asked, ‘Who are the three people?’ ‘First one is the, Arjuna!’ He asked, ‘Why, why do you want to kill Arjuna?’ This fellow Arjuna made Krishna to repeat the Gita. That is ok, because nobody else can repeat it except Krishna. But this fellow without even having the sense, he was standing behind. Krishna was turning throughout the Gita repetition, he was turning his head. Krishna would have had back pain, neck pain. This fellow did not even bother about that. He should have come in front. See whatever Krishna only can do, Krishna would have done. Gita only Krishna can do. That is ok. But this Arjuna could have had little brain to come in front, Krishna wouldn’t have had the neck pain. So first I will kill the Arjuna for giving neck pain to Krishna. Second is Narada. Constantly calling and disturbing Vishnu for no reasons. Even for no reasons. This fellow can do whatever he wants by himself. Even whatever he can do, he will call and Vishnu has to run. The third Draupadi. Third Draupadi, because she gave only one rice to Krishna, only one rice to Krishna. She knows Krishna is coming, but she did not keep enough food for Krishna.

Actually this story can give you a clear idea, whatever we can do, we should be able to do it. Whatever we can’t, only Divine can do. We should allow the Divine to do it. We can’t expect God will come down and bring brinjal for tomorrow’s breakfast. We will all be sitting here, alright, let him bring brinjal. Something like bringing camera we can tell him. Because we had the control. We can tell him, ‘Yay, now it is time, bring your lightings and all those things. Now nothing can be done. But this is too much, na. Suddenly somewhere appearing and just two hours ago I said, two three hours ago.

Devotee Yadav: The moment you said, I told him.

Let’s have fun. And now you know, at those moments how I look.

Devotee Yadav: Yes, Swami. I knew it was good…{ . audio not clear. }

Because the moment I say, I, I come with that look, I know. Nowadays, Yadav has become very professional in my body language. Living constantly around me. At least five thousand photographs you have done no, Yadav of me.

Devotee Yadav: More, more than that.

At least ten thousand you would have done by now? Ten thousand shot. So at least ten thousand seconds you would have looked at me intensely. Done. You have done. You have done whatever can be done. Whatever you do intensely will be stored inside your eyes Yadav. Just like how we store in film, it is stored in eyes also. So when the, see when you wash the film, it comes out whatever is stored. Same way at the time of death your indriyas will be washed. So whatever is stored in a strong way will come out. That is why always the seekers are requested, recommended to look into the Master or God’s form intensely. Even having darshan is a spiritual technique for enlightenment. Because at the time of death, during time of death everything will be washed. That moments whatever is stored intensely inside will come out. And that will guide the way, show the way.

I stare in very, in a blind way. As if I am looking, but

Devotee Yadav: Unfocused.

Unfocused I will stare and then I say, ‘Alright, it will happen.’

Sometimes people come and try to test me also. They bring something to test me. I tell them, ‘No, you will not have it, get lost!’ And even if it was supposed to happen, it will..

Rain is there? No rain, na. Can you arrange outside. Can you see? Swamiji in Tamil { Appa, Gopi, poda, see outside. ..} We will sit with Ganga.

Alright, we have all.. Tomorrow we will take.

Big crowd, this whole crowd moving itself will take one hour. Slowly one by one they have to move. And, find out where their leg is lying down, where their hands are lying down. Pick up all of them, ‘Yaaay, come.’ And then slowly move the body. By the time they climb the stairs, over.

If you trust, Master’s presence will become heaven, paradise, just exciting energy. Without that it will be just hell.

Devotee Ramanathan: His absence also.

No with the trust, even his absence is heaven. Understand, in his presence, gathering new lilas, seeing new lilas. In his absence cherishing those lilas, that’s all. In presence new lilas, in absence lila dhyana, meditating on lila. So, if you trust, presence and absence, both becomes paradise. Heaven.

Devotee: Swamiji, how do you interpret King Sagar {Bhagiratha’s father} brought Ganga {{ sixty thousand children..}

I think, Swamiji, that is not the children, Swamiji. That is samskaaras of Bhagiratha’s father. So much of Samskaaras, when the enlightenment energy came, those samskaaras got washed. Engrams. Maybe tomorrow or day after tomorrow I will give the metaphysical explanation of the whole Ganga story, Swamiji.

Devotee: Question about the Vedas and the original writers of the Vedas. Did any of them live around this area?

Oh, all of them lived around this area only. Not any of them. All of them lived around this area only.

Devotee: Like just this area? Uttarkashi?

Yes, yes. Uttarkashi also they lived. Many rishis have lived. It is like a, this whole area is a research laboratory, ma. This whole some hundred kilometer, two hundred kilometer is research laboratory. All of them have lived here, and they all used to share notes, compare notes, and do further research and development. They all have lived in this area only. There was one who lived in Naimishaaranyam. Naimishaaranyam is little plains. Otherwise, major group lived in this area only. In Himalayas.

Devotee: Swamiji, in connection with presence and absence of Master is both are. What is that when we miss the presence of the Master. In the absence, the cherishing is there, but we really long for the presence of the Master, what is that?

This is I think FAQ. This is FAQ. I can’t give an honest answer for this, actually. In the initial level, there will be, the longing for the presence of the Master and to tell you honestly, nothing can be done about it. Nothing can be done about it.

Devotee: {{ in Tamil..}

Just for discourse, rain stopped. Just for discourse, rain stopped. We had international conference in his college. He has got a college in Salem. In his college, we had a big conference, international conference in December time, in December. Just for the discourse, the rain will not come. The moment I come down from the seat, it will stop raining. There must be video record, third lecture, third day, even when I was lecturing, it started drizzling. I just stopped the discourse and looked into it, like how I look at the Brahmacharys, ‘Yay, fool, what is going on, don’t you know?’ Same way, just one look and it stopped. All the three days, the weather prediction was heavy rain through out. But all the three lecture, not a single lecture was disturbed by rain. Not a single day was disturbed by rain. Not only in Salem, in Namakkal, throughout. Everywhere.

Devotee: Whole Ananda Ulla.

Whole Ananda Ulla.

Devotee Mukku: Swamiji, it happened during the organizer’s event in LA. They were predicting snow for the weekend. You said nothing will happen… { . audio not clear. }

Three thousand feet organizer’s meet, there was snow, heavy snow.

Devotee: Six thousand feet.

Six thousand feet. They were all predicting the snow only, na.

Devotee Mukku: Snow for the weekend.

I said don’t bother, let her predict. Till we, till this the organizer’s meet no snow, nothing. There was sun actually.

Devotee: Actually second day it rained and stopped. { . audio not clear. }

Yes when we started the pooja?

Devotee: { ..audio not clear..}

Nice. Nature listens to us. Only human beings don’t listen to us. Nature actually listens to us, because it is intelligent. Human beings only.

Actually when you trust, you lose the boundary consciousness. You lose the identity which is constantly torturing you. You can’t live without being tortured, that is the problem. You see, if you are not tortured, you miss that, you miss something intensely inside. You feel lonely. That is why you cannot escape from your depression. That is why what you do. You feel better to be happy with your identity, with your boundary. Feeling the boundary is pain. Feeling boundary is the pain. Nothing else.

Today I will speak, something, some more on this Guru disciple relationship. Let’s all understand this Guru disciple relationship. Only then tomorrow the subject whatever I am going to start, my experiences will help you. Otherwise either you will reject, ‘Ah, some story he is telling’. Or, you will start believing, ‘Alright, good novel, good story. One more story’. It will not inspire you to take the quantum jump to have the same experience. If it has to inspire you, it should have a deep understanding about the Guru disciple relationship. If you have any questions on Guru disciple relationship, put it in writing and pass it. I will answer. Better put it in writing. If each one starts asking, others will not be able to listen the question. It will not be recorded also. Better put it in writing and send it. Pass it. I will answer now.

Let’s have the basic clarity. The basic lessons of Guru disciple relationship, then we will be able to utilize the time. See, you are sitting with a scientist and if you don’t know how to use his time, you will be just wasting his time now. Please, why don’t you tell me, what is one plus one. What is two plus two. What is three plus three? And you will be just wasting his time and its like a abusing his time. So, if you are clear about the basic things, then we can straight away go to the e=mc2. E=Omc2.

There is one paper here, daughter wants to have the Jai. Before leaving we will put the Jai.

Mashmella is here. Ah, ok. How are you feeling? Feel little better.

You can put it in writing and send. See others are not able to hear, that’s why.

Devotee: Bhagavad Gita {.. audio not clear..}

That happened in Haridwar put it in writing and send, at least I will read the question and answer.

Oh, any of you have papers?

Ramanathan, can you take few papers out of that.

Alright. Ah, papers, distribute it. Whoever wants to write, take. Don’t take unnecessarily and wipe your nose. In Bharat, anything free means, give for me, one for my brother. One for me, one for my brother. One for younger brother. If you want to put some questions, raise your hands, they will give the paper.

Devotee: {.. audio not clear.. } {{Swamiji in Tamil..}}

Please be seated here itself, you will have coffee. If you go out, it will take one hour. Let you have coffee, here itself. Lock the door and supply here itself. We will have ten minutes, here itself we will have coffee. And you can drink coffee and listen to discourse. Nothing wrong. Supply. Just two three volunteers. Suresh’s batch. Only Suresh’s batch. Supply paper, supply coffee, everything.

Devotees and Swamiji: { audio not clear..} next plans..

Please understand, 27th Saturday, day after tomorrow, we said there is Gomukh. From Gangotri to Gomukh, one important thing, it is very, very, very arduous and dangerous and difficult journey. If you are above sixty you will not be allowed to go. You cannot go. It is a rule. If you are above sixty, simply rule. You can’t go, we can’t take the risk. Above sixty, people we can’t take the risk, because if you are disturbed, everybody will be disturbed. Below sixty, you can take a chance if you are really healthy and it is very dangerous journey. Of course tomorrow I will see the energy of the Gomukh also and decide and tomorrow we will decide about that. Even though we planned, last year also we did not go. You know, last year also I said, the energy of Gomukh is not good, let’s not go. I did not go. Nobody went. The other two people who went, they were all caught by land slide. There was a land slide. We even heard some few people died. Few people died. And tomorrow I will consult with Gomukh and decide. Of course we have hot line connection. So, we will consult with the energy and decide.

Devotee: Next day in Gangotri was the best day we had.

Yes, we had.

Here is a nice question. ‘I am making efforts to resolve many of my life’s issues. Seems like, I cannot do without Divine help. It only seems like. Not actually. Understand.

Listen here. Here is a question, ‘I am making efforts to resolve many of my life issues. Seems like I cannot do without Divine help. Seems like means, you have not even faced the situation. Before that itself you are predicting. You are predicting. Seems like means, you have not entered. You have not faced. You are predicting. Never think seems like. Face it. Then you will understand, you will be able to sort it out. As long as you predict, you can’t get out of even a small problem. If you predict, ‘If I climb this chair, if I fall, if I break my head, if there is no hospital here. If I die here itself, what will happen? Can you climb the steps? Already you have created enough trouble. Your leg cannot even move. So seems like means predicting the problems. Predicting the problems.

And I do contemplate sometimes about my spiritual names beyond my Ananda Abiru. Please help me become a lion that can roar and be something. Just by giving the name Ananda Abiru, I have done the maximum help. Now it is your time to roar. Now it is your time to roar. Who is that Abiru? Yes. Understand now there is no need for me to help you anymore. Now it is your time to roar.

Swamiji, kindly explain the kind of relationship between the Guru and disciple at various stages. – Jyotishwaran. Nice question.

Understand; if you have a board I can explain. Alright. I will explain directly. There are different stages, different levels. First pure intellectual. Purely coming with a doubt. What is going on? Especially when you see a big crowd around this young boy. First thing, what this fellow is doing. Is he doing some magic or what? Young fellow is sitting and such a, all these elders are sitting.

Yay, finish the coffee. Alright, finish the coffee, I will answer this question. I don’t want. This question is a beautiful question. I can speak on this question this whole Himalayas. Finish the coffee quickly, only then you will also finish the coffee quickly.

The moment you all finish the coffee I will answer this question.

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